Comlex 77, realistic expectations?

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A comlex step 1 of 77 😱 and anesthesia ? Is it remotely possible to get an interview? I am planning on a a few months of audition rotations, but should I just stick to internal medicine? I would love to do anesthesiology anywhere in the country- allopathic or osteopathic. Any programs I would have better chances with?

How would I go about giving myself the best chances for getting interviews/accepted?

Any advice would be appreciated- even if its a harsh reality check.
 
I dont know what a 77 is - what's the 3 digit score?

I know the average programs have official "cut-offs" of 81 for an interview, and realistically, to have a shot to get in, it seems like 85 or higher.

I'm sure a small DO program (i.e. Des Peres, which requires an audition to be considered even if you have a 99; PCOM, Largo ... may consider you, since you passed).

Do better on Level 2 is all I can say.
 
I googled the conversion tool. It looks like about a 430 on the 3-digit score. I agree with above poster. At least you passed. Of course try and do better on Step 2.

The competitiveness of anesthesiology may be waning again, while as far as I know the number of spots available is not projected to decrease. In case you haven't been keeping up on current events, Medicare is notoriously unkind to anesthesia, and healtcare reform is expected to follow in Medicare's tracks. Furthermore, Blade is discouraging people from entering the field. So do not be deterred from applying. This could be your opportunity.

I don't know exactly which programs to apply to. In looking at ACGME programs, search their resident list and apply to programs that already have DOs. If you feel better having internal medicine as a backup, you can still rank all your anesthesia programs ahead of medicine to ensure a match somewhere. I wouldn't rank any DO medicine programs, since matching there would exclude you from the ACGME anesthesia match. Use ACGME medicine programs as backups. Also, see if you can just match into internship-only medicine programs as backup. Then (if necessary) you can apply outside the match for CA-1 spots while you're a medicine intern, without having to be secretive like you would if you had matched to the entire residency. If nothing seems to be working out at that point, you can see if your medicine program will extend a full residency to you, or look elsewhere. Owing to the vast number of medicine spots out there, something should be available. (Odds are, some medicine interns will not finish the year, and their program will need to fill their residency slot).

In short, if you want to do anesthesia, go for it. You have your work cut out for you, but if you step up your efforts and match, it will put you in good shape to get through your post-graduate training.
 
you're best chance to get into anesthesiology at this point is to do solid on COMLEX 2 or the USMLE. that's no B.S. auditions are just one piece of the pie, but you have to do reasonably well on the boards to show good understanding of medical knowledge. This means at least mean or better.
 
If he wants allopathic anesthesia, then for sure.

If he wants any anesthesia (osteopathic), then he just needs to rotate and do well and be well-liked, teachable, etc. and not be a tool or a suck-up.

I'm currently at an osteopathic program, and that is what everyone said when I asked them what they look for. In terms of boards, they want to see that you "passed" and did better on level 2.

I've got some of my allopathic auditions coming up, so for now, I don't truly know the difference between the role of the student allo vs. osteo.
 
I am a DO fourth year with a 545 Comlex Step 1 and a 595 Step 2. But....only a 199 USMLE step 1. I don't plan to take USMLE step 2. I am in the middle of my class, good anesthesia rotations, good LOR etc. Nothing negative and a somewhat non-traditional background (music) that may help. My question: should I just apply to allopathic anesthesia using my Comlex scores, or reveal that I took the USMLE and got the low score. On the one hand, allo. programs like the USMLE; on the other, I look much better without it.
Applying to Philly/NJ area and a scattering of other programs. REALLY want to match in anesthesia...I love it.
 
I am a DO fourth year with a 545 Comlex Step 1 and a 595 Step 2. But....only a 199 USMLE step 1. I don't plan to take USMLE step 2. I am in the middle of my class, good anesthesia rotations, good LOR etc. Nothing negative and a somewhat non-traditional background (music) that may help. My question: should I just apply to allopathic anesthesia using my Comlex scores, or reveal that I took the USMLE and got the low score. On the one hand, allo. programs like the USMLE; on the other, I look much better without it.
Applying to Philly/NJ area and a scattering of other programs. REALLY want to match in anesthesia...I love it.

Don't you have to report your USMLE if you took it when applying to Allo programs or am I wrong?
 
I am a DO fourth year with a 545 Comlex Step 1 and a 595 Step 2. But....only a 199 USMLE step 1. I don't plan to take USMLE step 2. I am in the middle of my class, good anesthesia rotations, good LOR etc. Nothing negative and a somewhat non-traditional background (music) that may help. My question: should I just apply to allopathic anesthesia using my Comlex scores, or reveal that I took the USMLE and got the low score. On the one hand, allo. programs like the USMLE; on the other, I look much better without it.
Applying to Philly/NJ area and a scattering of other programs. REALLY want to match in anesthesia...I love it.

pretty sure ERAS will just take your USMLE step 1 score and disseminate it to the programs you apply to without even asking..
 
Hey all,

My board scores: Comlex 1 565 Comlex 2 522
USMLE 1 191 USMLE 2 216

I have great rec letters, grades, very strong CV, and have done several audition rotations.

What do you guys think about my chances to match anesthesia? I'm willing to move pretty much anywhere.
 
Hey all,

My board scores: Comlex 1 565 Comlex 2 522
USMLE 1 191 USMLE 2 216

I have great rec letters, grades, very strong CV, and have done several audition rotations.

What do you guys think about my chances to match anesthesia? I'm willing to move pretty much anywhere.


chances? can't tell you without knowing you. bank on the hope that those places you auditioned liked you enough to extend an interview. Besides that, maybe lucky enough for some programs to interview you based on the stats, but you will likely get filtered out by most. Sorry. :xf:
 
chances? can't tell you without knowing you. bank on the hope that those places you auditioned liked you enough to extend an interview. Besides that, maybe lucky enough for some programs to interview you based on the stats, but you will likely get filtered out by most. Sorry. :xf:

What are you basing this off of? The COMLEX or USMLE scores? I do agree that with the decline in COMLEX and low USMLE it would be tough, but I was curious what you were basing this off of (USMLE vs. COMLEX scores)
 
What are you basing this off of? The COMLEX or USMLE scores? I do agree that with the decline in COMLEX and low USMLE it would be tough, but I was curious what you were basing this off of (USMLE vs. COMLEX scores)

USMLE. Having scores below the mean puts yourself in the "back of the pack"

Since the COMLEX scores are above the mean, osteopathic programs may be the more viable option. If I were you, I'd go for it either way. Apply broadly and be confident.
 
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