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Wrong!
Well wouldn’t those former aoa programs now start using comlex level 2/step 2 like traditional MD programs?? As well as put more weight on research?
Same here haha i am a third year glad I dogged all this stuff. I suspect it will be all the same among former aoa and md, more weight will be put on step 2/level 2 scores and research and extra cirriculars.
Yep... although i don’t know if this impacts anything for specialties that don’t put heavy emphasis on research. Aoa programs even in competitive specialties didn’t put too much weight on it, so I bet level 2/step 2 becomes very important along with your audition/sub I
I think we both know the answer. It requires work and is mostly for the sake of aesthetics. Of course, I would formally change it like you said.
It's speculation so if you're the hopeful type keep on hoping lol. I'm a pessimist and with all the changes occurring it doesn't make sense to me that they wouldn't stab us a few more times to make sure there's no chance of recovery. <3
Lol which established schools have research besides maybe MSU? Our schools don't even have departments for all the specialties to put in a good word for students who want to go into those fields. Local MD schools won't take outside students this year and maybe next due to COVID, so we're left high and dry
About f'ing time!!!!!Scores & Reports — NBOME
Discuss.
Also, class of 2024, do we cram and take it before May 1st for a score or wait, take the load off, and get P/F? I imagine some who want a competitive specialty would be tempted to get that numeric score. Obviously either way Step2/Level 2 importance goes way up as has already been established in all the USMLE pass/fail threads.
I would definitely wait and not at all go for the score. As is, the COMLEX is considered low value. Do you think anyone will value a 600 COMLEX when most PDs have no idea how the tests works AND they are judging all MD candidates by their step 2? No way. Getting a score on COMLEX 1 is a bad move IMOScores & Reports — NBOME
Discuss.
Also, class of 2024, do we cram and take it before May 1st for a score or wait, take the load off, and get P/F? I imagine some who want a competitive specialty would be tempted to get that numeric score. Obviously either way Step2/Level 2 importance goes way up as has already been established in all the USMLE pass/fail threads.
I agree, not worth it. But... if you could be sure that you'd get a 600+ I think there's a possibility it would help with former DO programs especially surgical subs still with mostly/all DOs and DO PDs. It would be a neat feather in your cap at interview to say "Yea I'm really serious about this specialty so I studied hard and took it early and still got this score." Still, not for me maybe, but I bet you there are people who will do it, not to mention people who did a prelim/didn't match and will have stellar scores at interview when my class has all P/Fs.
I don’t know about that, on my IM rotations (2 in regional medical center and 1 sub-I at place of my choice) both PD I had a chance to talk to knew very well what comlex score is. I don’t think in 2021 there are a lot of PD left who don’t know it. I think you are repeating old stereotype.
COMLEX 1 is also p/f January 2022 so it doesn’t matter anyway. Class of 2024 will just be evaluated with tarot cards and palm readings, maybe some astrology.
Is there someone I can hire to create a convincing PR debacle for the NBOME? Like make it look like the president is assaulting people or something...
DO students will no doubt have to learn this in the "History of Osteopathy" lectures, along with such gems as the names of AT Still dogs (I recall an SDNer mentioning this very thing one)!
It’s not an old stereotype. COMLEX is hard to interpret for the people taking it, let alone PDs who just want to be able to compare applicants directly to each other
I love how people use personal anecdotes to justify the relevance of this truly worthless exam.
Not what I said. So far no one is justifying the relevance of comlex in this thread (unless I missed it). I was implying that its naïve to think PD doesn't know what comlex is. I understand that you are probably frustrated with comlex (we all are), but you should separate your own thoughts and fantasies from what I wrote. I mostly agree with what you said, but I was replying to completely different thing.
USMLE 2 CS is discontinued. USMLE 2 CK is not which will be the important exam you want to score high on, assuming it’s not pass/fail for your class in the future (prob not). The best way to set yourself up is to do well in your classes/rotations and do research
Problem is DO students used to be able to rock usmle step 1 and increase their chances of getting into a good MD residency program. Thats essentially how I got into a decent residency program.
The story of how the California MA almost eradicated the degree in that state is a fascinating story of ruthlessness and overreach!
