COMLEX residency screening *READ*

[Giovanotto]

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Do we really want mcat to determine our future

It doesn't. I had a terrible mcat and got into a school with way higher averages. I did it by highlighting other aspects about me.

 

[Throwawaycall]

It doesn't. I had a terrible mcat and got into a school with way higher averages. I did it by highlighting other aspects about me.

It did if you are at a do school.

 

[Giovanotto]

It did if you are at a do school.

I'm okay with that. Everything you do in life has consequences. Why should someone like me, who made a late last minute decision to go to med school have the same opportunities of someone who spent 6 years planning around medical school?

 

[Throwawaycall]

I agree I did the same. But we need some objective way to measure people’s unless one has a better idea step it is for now. We can’t take away without replacing

 

[Cardboard101]

Compromise: Make COMLEX pass fail.
NBOME gets their $, DO students all take USMLE.

 

[DrStephenStrange]

Compromise: Make COMLEX pass fail.
NBOME gets their $, DO students all take USMLE.

Isn't it already pass fail?

 

[Mass Effect]

We have to have some way to stratify

The way to stratify is med school/clinical performance and interview. All clinical exams should be NBME and these should be reported alongside clerkship evals/grades.

I'm okay with that. Everything you do in life has consequences. Why should someone like me, who made a late last minute decision to go to med school have the same opportunities of someone who spent 6 years planning around medical school?

Because if that's the case, then neurosurgery would only be available to those born and bred to attend med school and no one else. Just because someone attended certain schools for high school, college, and med school doesn't mean they're necessarily more qualified to be a ___ than those who went to a different high school, college, and med school. This would be the worst way to stratify.

 

[Ho0v-man]

I'm okay with that. Everything you do in life has consequences. Why should someone like me, who made a late last minute decision to go to med school have the same opportunities of someone who spent 6 years planning around medical school?

Bc you might still be a better medical student than that person and that should count for something.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

Talked to another one this week that said they don’t even know what comlex means besides
<500 suck
>500 ok
>600 good
>700 probably really good
It’s sad. Not on PD part but for having to take the exam

Thats probably as good a grasp as anyone has at this point.

 

[Throwawaycall]

The way to stratify is med school/clinical performance and interview. All clinical exams should be NBME and these should be reported alongside clerkship evals/grades.



Because if that's the case, then neurosurgery would only be available to those born and bred to attend med school and no one else. Just because someone attended certain schools for high school, college, and med school doesn't mean they're necessarily more qualified to be a ___ than those who went to a different high school, college, and med school. This would be the worst way to stratify.

NBME idea is great. Half the people at my school shouldn’t be teaching let alone writing questions

 

[fldoctorgirl]

Meanwhile, our school made the completely backwards switch from NBME shelf exams to COMATs last year 😡

 

[BlueBleck]

Meanwhile, our school made the completely backwards switch from NBME shelf exams to COMATs last year 😡

From what i've gathered, COMATs are weighed equally to NBMEs by PDs. So it should be good for the average student to not be curved with the MD students.

I was hitting 30%s for surg uworld and got smack dab average for my COMAT. I was missing over half of any given test questions with typical resources for FM, but got 95th percentile for the COMAT. The only OMM i've studied since comlex is the VS chart which I cram the day before shelves. COMATs are easier exams but seem to not be counted against us. I'm not complaining.

 

[kazekage2016]

Unfortunately, I'm in the spot of <500 COMLEX. And for all the people saying it's impossible to have >230 Step 1 and <500 COMLEX. Guess what? I'm taking step after 3rd year. That could be a very good explanation for the discrepancy.

 

[Mass Effect]

From what i've gathered, COMATs are weighed equally to NBMEs by PDs.

You gathered wrong. I doubt COMATs are weighed at all. Why would they be when the USMLE and COMLEX exist to stratify? In my experience, neither NBMEs nor COMATs are even mentioned let alone considered/weighed. They would only come into play if USMLE and COMLEX were P/F and at that point, there's no way COMATs would be weighed equally.

 

[fldoctorgirl]

The only OMM i've studied since comlex is the VS chart which I cram the day before shelves. COMATs are easier exams but seem to not be counted against us. I'm not complaining.

I was more annoyed at the idea of having to study OMM for them, but if this is the case then I'm not as upset.

 

[Dr.Bruh]

I was more annoyed at the idea of having to study OMM for them, but if this is the case then I'm not as upset.

You def don’t need to study omm for comats. You’ll have like 1-2 questions maybe zero out of 125 and they are super easy.

 

[BlueBleck]

You gathered wrong. I doubt COMATs are weighed at all. Why would they be when the USMLE and COMLEX exist to stratify? In my experience, neither NBMEs nor COMATs are even mentioned let alone considered/weighed. They would only come into play if USMLE and COMLEX were P/F and at that point, there's no way COMATs would be weighed equally.

That's my point. If it's effectively P/F, then it's not really counted against me **unless** I fail. So why would I be mad if COMATs, as compared to NBMEs, are harder to fail?

Also, every comat i've taken this year has been standardized to 100. maybe it's a recent change.

But yeah overall, given historic performance on step by DOs, i'm not confident it's to our advantage to jump into nbmes. if no one is looking, why rock the boat for the worse. I'm sure everone who did well on step will continue to do well even on nbme shelves, but our lowest performers might really be hurt by the change.

 

[Shmoclo]

427 comlex 1 and 243 step 1 checking in

 

[sharpstickie]

427 comlex 1 and 243 step 1 checking in

Didn’t you just post that your comlex is 517?

 

[Shmoclo]

Comlex 2!

 

[BorntobeDO?]

Didn’t you just post that your comlex is 517?

Got 'em

Comlex 2!

And the truth comes out. 🤣

 

[NecFasc92]

Got 'em

And the truth comes out. 🤣

No truth came out. The 517 or whatever was his comlex 2, the 427 was his comlex 1. Took 15 seconds to search and figure it out

You should probably apologize now

 

[sharpstickie]

No truth came out. The 517 or whatever was his comlex 2, the 427 was his comlex 1. Took 15 seconds to search and figure it out

You should probably apologize now

Well, he didn't specify comlex 2 in the original post. It's fine.

 

[navigator]

Unfortunately, I'm in the spot of <500 COMLEX. And for all the people saying it's impossible to have >230 Step 1 and <500 COMLEX. Guess what? I'm taking step after 3rd year. That could be a very good explanation for the discrepancy.

That discrepancy isn't as rare as you'd think sadly. IMO Level 1 is written just way too vaguely, but I'm prob biased. I took both in June this year and got around low 230s / high 490s