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Has anyone done an acting internship rotation at UC Davis recently? I was very excited about going up there next month for my rotation, until I heard stories of bad experiences up there. I met some current residents who had done some UCD rotation as student, they told stories of getting bad evals. These are smart people, not some second rate slackers... I appreciate any personal experience or word of mouth stories.
 
I'm interested in CA programs so did some research on UCD as well. I spoke briefly to one person who rotated there as an elective (not subI) and he recommended it, never mentioned the tough evals.

As for the program, I heard it has an excellent reputation an their match is mainly hampered by the location. Also, as a program that prides itself on it's academic reputation and research, they're a little snooty about your pedigree and numbers. As for the training, teaching seems excellent but there is heavy supervision by attendings so it's harder to develop autonomy as a resident. 4 attendings on at a time--1 for each of 4 areas in the ED.
 
I recently graduated from the UC Davis EM residency so I'll share a few things:
- I continue to be puzzled about the "geographically challenged" thing with UCD. I really enjoyed living in Sacramento. About half of each graduating class stays in the area. The only people I know that gripe are the hipsters who just have to be on the club scene in LA, SF or NY. Granted, Sac isn't LA, SF or NY.
- I don't know anything about bad evals. What I can say is that the UCD ER is seeing 60 - 70 k pts per year, there is a very high blunt trauma census that pulls the seniors and attendings away. they like for students to be able to carry a few patients on their own. Shifts are tough with no down time. Some people have problems in such environments.
- I saw no problems with the autonomy. Things are so busy that have to be autonomous.
All in all, I'd do it again.
 
I interviewed at UC-Davis and loved it. I actually ranked it second and ended up at my first choice. The only reason they went second is they work so damn hard. They call them 12 hour shifts, but they're really closer to 14 hours and you do 20 of them a month. That's a bit more heavy than I wanted. Even with the Sierras, Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, San Francisco, and all the beaches nearby, it wasn' t quite enough to make up for the fact that I would be at work all the time. The residents looked tired, and there weren't very many of them who were able to come and meet the applicants. When they're off....they're asleep.

Plus...Peter Sokolove rocks.
 
The residents at UCD do work hard. 12s are painful. To work as many hours as we did doing 12s (20x12=240) doing 8s you have to work 30 days (30x8=240) and bear in mind that we worked 20 12s in a 28 day block, not in a month. Having said that the 20 12s a block bit is for the interns. As you move up it gets better. As a senior I worked ~16 12s a block. And UCD will now have 10 residents per year due to their additional RRC approval so things may get better still.
 
DocB-

Are you informed about the residency application process for D.O. candidates? I'm a fourth year osteopathic student from Michigan State and I've been looking into an elective rotation and residency at UCD Sacramento.

How competitive is the UCD residency? As a D.O. candidate will I have a disadvantage without taking the USMLE, if I've performed well on the COMLEX (95th-%)? I also speak Spanish with a high degree of proficiency and have experience as an EMT.

What is the acting internship like? Is it just 20-12hours with added responsibility?

Since funding becomes an issue for osteopathic grads who've completed an internship year prior to allopathic residencies, are you aware if any of the current D.O. residents completed and internship year before starting residency?

I'd appreciate any input.
 
Are you informed about the residency application process for D.O. candidates?
Not really but I write uninformed posts all the time.
How competitive is the UCD residency?
Pretty competitive (whatever that means). Spanish is great but it won't help you with the match. Ditto EMT. I'm not sure if COMLEX is a problem or not.
The AI does work 12s but I don't think they work 20. Check with Erik Laurin (the student director) or Molly Fling (the housestaff coordinator). Their emails are on the SAEM site.
They just graduated a DO but she didn't do a seperate intern year. They did just graduate a guy that transferred in from another program and had already done an intern year (he did four total). So I guess funding is somewhat flexible.
 
bump, any new opinions on med student elective rotations?
 
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bump, any new opinions on med student elective rotations?

So, I did my away at UC davis EM. You work 11 12-hr shifts total in the same ED. Lectures on the first day only and done! so, you pretty much have a lot of free time. Pathology is diverse. Decent number of Spanish only speaking patients. Decent number of procedures you perform as med students. Dr. Laurin is clerkship director. He is probably the nicest person there. For the rest of faculty, it's 50:50 nice vs mean attending at least to med students. I feel some are not nice to students because they have to write up H&P once you pick up a patient. Their computer system doesn't allow students to write notes. So, basically, you're like looking at your attending's face when you pick up new patient. The busier the ED, the meaner the attendings are. It is actually true to a lot of other programs too. Upper level residents are generally nice, but they are busy and couldn't help you much. I'd like to share a bad instance during my rotation. One day, I worked with Dr Tyler who has a thick Australian accent and speaks fast. She started treating me like **** when I didn't understand what she was saying in the beginning. And the rest of the day working with her was miserable just because again, you gotta look at your attending face when you picked up a new patient. As much as she speaks fast, she is a slow typer, which made it even worse. No offense to her or UCD EM program. I actually had some great experiences while working there too. You do a lot of suturing. Some are really complicated lacs. A lot of scut work you can do, such as foley and IV's. They are good practice for med students.
So, to summarize my opinions (purely just mine, which might not represent others who rotated there):
The goods: busy ED with diverse pathology, California, 3 year, lots of procedures
The not-so-goods: little commodore seen among residents, poor resident-to-med student teaching, computer system issues (attending must write notes if you pick up patients)
 
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