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thanks for the info, sense. they probably sent the packet to my old address. i'll give them a call on monday...hope it's not too late. any other mail i should know about?
 
docquaker said:
thanks for the info, sense. they probably sent the packet to my old address. i'll give them a call on monday...hope it's not too late. any other mail i should know about?
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No that's pretty much it. You should also check your western email because our class schedules came out as well as the list of classes we have to register for. You should register now if possible and the deadline is Aug 1.
 
Did everyone get that email about setting up a financial aid interview? Does anyone know if we can have it when schools starts or will it be in July before school.
 
hi there,
i had trouble with the ballys form too but what you should do is just choose ballys and then skip over their website stuff and just proceed through western's system. i talked to a rep and she said we can go to any ballys, hopefully this will all be clearer soon.

amy 🙂
 
thanks amy! i called COMP again today and was told that our Bally's membership is an all access membership to all Bally's locations w/o restrictions.

new Q: where do students park on campus? if you don't buy a permit/space for $180 where is there to park for a full day on campus? is there free residential parking nearby or is most parking metered?
 
thanks amy! i called COMP again today and was told that our Bally's membership is an all access membership to all Bally's locations w/o restrictions.

new Q: where do students park on campus? if you don't buy a permit/space for $180 where is there to park for a full day on campus? is there free residential parking nearby or is most parking metered?

Bally's should be anytime at any location from what I know. I haven't heard of any limited access sort of membership for Western students. As far as LA FItness goes, there has been some renegotiation stuff going on between LA Fitness and our school and hopefully that has been smoothed over by the time most students start using their membership.

Parking: You can park in some residential areas about a block or two away from the school, but it is limited parking and it depends on where you want to leave your car and walk to school. There are a few blocks of curbs with the 2 hr parking limit during business hours as well. There used to be temporary parking you could purchase on a daily basis, but I think most of those spots (owned by the city across the street from our commons) have been rented by students. As far as I know, there isn't any metered parking around.
 
Sense said:
Did everyone get that email about setting up a financial aid interview? Does anyone know if we can have it when schools starts or will it be in July before school.
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I just went in today...most of the financial aid counselors are starting to set up their interviews for the next couple weeks. It only takes about 15 min and basically they will answer any questions you have. I know that we are supposed to have it done before we start classes, so I guess technically you could wait until the first week of Aug to do it.
 
Ryan said:
I just went in today...most of the financial aid counselors are starting to set up their interviews for the next couple weeks. It only takes about 15 min and basically they will answer any questions you have. I know that we are supposed to have it done before we start classes, so I guess technically you could wait until the first week of Aug to do it.
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Oh ok. Thanks for the information. 👍
 
hello all, well I just registered for classes!!!! 😀 30.5 units...unbelievable!

As far as the financial aid email goes, is it mandatory to meet with a counselor? Because I didn't find anything that said that in there.

Thanks for the info,

Dr. DOn
 
Dr. Don said:
hello all, well I just registered for classes!!!! 😀 30.5 units...unbelievable!

As far as the financial aid email goes, is it mandatory to meet with a counselor? Because I didn't find anything that said that in there.

Thanks for the info,

Dr. DOn
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Yea the email doesn't really say it's mandatory but tkim said for the class of 2007 it was mandatory. I figure it probably is mandatory for us also.

JMC, that's 30.5 units a semester. Really crazy...
 
Wow, I remember that it was 38 units when I started (in 2000). Wonder what happened to the other units?
 
Just so everyone knows, I called the Financial aid office and they said that the financial aid interview was mandatory but you can do it either before school starts or during school.
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
Is that 30.5 units for the year? Surely you didn't mean 30.5 for the semester...or did you? 😎
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I think it's per semester
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so its just a matter of days till we start; how is everyone feeling?

i'm gonna be staying at el sereno; anyone else living there or close by?
 
FowlersGap said:
so its just a matter of days till we start; how is everyone feeling?

i'm gonna be staying at el sereno; anyone else living there or close by?
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Hey so you actually got el sereno? Nice. 😀
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
Class Officer Elections: Do you want to be a class officer? (President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, Curric. Rep, AV Rep, Recreation Leader). Election schedule will be emailed out to you on July 30.


Sense for President 😎
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:laugh: Nah I'll pass. I figure I'll be too busy studying anyways. How about you JMC? JMC for president!! :meanie:
 
just wanted to say hi and what's up.
I know i was going to have a BBQ before school starts...but it turns out i can't move in till aug 1. Maybe i'll throw something together when school starts...only if school doesn't kick my arse.
 
Melancholy (this question is also posed to everyone else),

I have a question. How important do you feel class cohesiveness is? While at UC Davis, I noticed how some med school classes where much "whinier" and/or stand-off-ish toward each other. Individually, I know that we can survive on our own in medical school. However, cohesion and camaraderie seem to be obviously important just for enjoying the experience... not to mention that rivalry and cliques tend to increase the stress and lower the performance of some students. If camaraderie is relatively important, (it is to me) what would you suggest that we as first year students do in order to gain that feeling of togetherness?

Thanks,
-Ryan
 
Ryan said:
Melancholy (this question is also posed to everyone else),

I have a question. How important do you feel class cohesiveness is? While at UC Davis, I noticed how some med school classes where much "whinier" and/or stand-off-ish toward each other. Individually, I know that we can survive on our own in medical school. However, cohesion and camaraderie seem to be obviously important just for enjoying the experience... not to mention that rivalry and cliques tend to increase the stress and lower the performance of some students. If camaraderie is relatively important, (it is to me) what would you suggest that we as first year students do in order to gain that feeling of togetherness?

Thanks,
-Ryan
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While I agree everyone at this level has achieved a pretty comfortable level of autonomy, we the COMP c/o of 2008 will be better served to embrace our brethren and seize this opportunity to make lasting friendships and establish a thriving constituency. Thus, in the face of adversity, we will have more fun and greater satisfaction in knowing that we did it together. There is fun in that, right? Or is it just me?

"The best of times and the worst of times"...but on course together nonetheless.

The question was "How important do you feel class cohesiveness is?" In one word - Critical

"How does one set the tone of togetherness?" - We can start by saying hello to each other, introducing ourselves, and when we ask "hey what school did you go to?" don't go OMG you must be so smart...you went to Johns Hopkins, Stanford, or Berkeley (because I for one am not impressed). Sizing each other up is the worst way to get started.

Look prospectively, not retrospectively. What is ahead of us, how will we respond to the challenges ahead? Will you lend a hand to someone who needs it? Will you pick someone up who is having a hard day, week, semester?

I have more to say, but I'll lead by example on the field instead. You guys rock and I'll see you soon.
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
While I agree everyone at this level has achieved a pretty comfortable level of autonomy, we the COMP c/o of 2008 will be better served to embrace our brethren and seize this opportunity to make lasting friendships and establish a thriving constituency. Thus, in the face of adversity, we will have more fun and greater satisfaction in knowing that we did it together. There is fun in that, right? Or is it just me?

"The best of times and the worst of times"...but on course together nonetheless.

The question was "How important do you feel class cohesiveness is?" In one word - Critical

"How does one set the tone of togetherness?" - We can start by saying hello to each other, introducing ourselves, and when we ask "hey what school did you go to?" don't go OMG you must be so smart...you went to Johns Hopkins, Stanford, or Berkeley (because I for one am not impressed). Sizing each other up is the worst way to get started.

Look prospectively, not retrospectively. What is ahead of us, how will we respond to the challenges ahead? Will you lend a hand to someone who needs it? Will you pick someone up who is having a hard day, week, semester?

I have more to say, but I'll lead by example on the field instead. You guys rock and I'll see you soon.
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THANK YOU JMC for voicing how I feel much better than I could have done!

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-Ryan


How about everyone else?...
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
While I agree everyone at this level has achieved a pretty comfortable level of autonomy, we the COMP c/o of 2008 will be better served to embrace our brethren and seize this opportunity to make lasting friendships and establish a thriving constituency. Thus, in the face of adversity, we will have more fun and greater satisfaction in knowing that we did it together. There is fun in that, right? Or is it just me?

"The best of times and the worst of times"...but on course together nonetheless.

The question was "How important do you feel class cohesiveness is?" In one word - Critical

"How does one set the tone of togetherness?" - We can start by saying hello to each other, introducing ourselves, and when we ask "hey what school did you go to?" don't go OMG you must be so smart...you went to Johns Hopkins, Stanford, or Berkeley (because I for one am not impressed). Sizing each other up is the worst way to get started.

Look prospectively, not retrospectively. What is ahead of us, how will we respond to the challenges ahead? Will you lend a hand to someone who needs it? Will you pick someone up who is having a hard day, week, semester?

I have more to say, but I'll lead by example on the field instead. You guys rock and I'll see you soon.
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Wow I agree. Spoken like a true class president. :laugh:
 
Sense said:
Wow I agree. Spoken like a true class president. :laugh:
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😱 No you didn't!

I have no experience in this area and I have a wife and two children, thus I'll have very little extra time for such activities (although I do look forward to joining the EM and ortho club!).

I nominated you Sense because I see you (on SDN) as a very proactive, data-presenting DO enthusiast who I feel can and would step up and meet the challenges of representing our class as prez with honor and great conviction.

I guess we'll see the credentials of the candidates once they step forward. I was just trying to get a head start as your campaign manager! :laugh:

I got nothin' but love for my COMP c/o 2008.
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
😱 No you didn't!

Look, let's vote for someone who will best represent our class' needs and who is not afraid to challenge/work with the administration on policies that are directly linked to our best interest.

I have no experience in this area and I have a wife and two children, thus I'll have very little extra time for such activities (although I do look forward to joining the EM and ortho club!).

I nominated you Sense because I see you (on SDN) as a very proactive, data-presenting DO enthusiast who I feel can and would step up and meet the challenges of representing our class as prez with honor and great conviction.

I guess we'll see the credentials of the candidates once they step forward. I was just trying to get a head start as your campaign manager! :laugh:

I got nothin' but love for my COMP c/o 2008.
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I see. Well I regretfully decline to run because I'll be too busy studying at the time. 😀
 
Sense said:
I see. Well I regretfully decline to run because I'll be too busy studying at the time. 😀
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How bout Dr. Jack - she seems kind of like the presidential type.

What do you say Dr. Jack? Will we see your name on the ballot?

Anyone else on this forum interested in student government. I actually am, but just not feasable with my commitments. Plus I'll need every spare moment I can catch. After two years out of the game I feel as though my retention potential has atrophied exponentially. Time to clean out the cob webs and crank this baby up!
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
How bout Dr. Jack - she seems kind of like the presidential type.

What do you say Dr. Jack? Will we see your name on the ballot?

Anyone else on this forum interested in student government. I actually am, but just not feasable with my commitments. Plus I'll need every spare moment I can catch. After two years out of the game I feel as though my retention potential has atrophied exponentially. Time to clean out the cob webs and crank this baby up!
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presidents are tools. i think i will run for curriculum rep so vote for me.
 
that dr. jack said:
presidents are tools. i think i will run for curriculum rep so vote for me.
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Come on Jack. Presidents are hardly tools....sounds like somebody had a bad experience with this in the past.

You've got my vote for curriculum rep though.

Any others care to use this forum as a platform for thier political agenda 🙂
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
Come on Jack. Presidents are hardly tools....sounds like somebody had a bad experience with this in the past.
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Sounds like someone didn't get their Thursday ice cream. 😉
 
tkim6599 said:
Sounds like someone didn't get their Thursday ice cream. 😉
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MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm.......Ice Cream..........
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Ryan said:
Melancholy (this question is also posed to everyone else),

I have a question. How important do you feel class cohesiveness is? While at UC Davis, I noticed how some med school classes where much "whinier" and/or stand-off-ish toward each other. Individually, I know that we can survive on our own in medical school. However, cohesion and camaraderie seem to be obviously important just for enjoying the experience... not to mention that rivalry and cliques tend to increase the stress and lower the performance of some students. If camaraderie is relatively important, (it is to me) what would you suggest that we as first year students do in order to gain that feeling of togetherness?

Thanks,
-Ryan
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Very good concern here...class cohesiveness is best done through doing things together. for example: house parties, superbowl parties, birthday parties, lakers game parties, veags trips, mammoth trips (snowboarding), paintballing, sports...

I have a friend at USC med and the way he puts it, the best class is a class that knows how to have fun together. While we may be buried in medical text books, for the sake of our insanity, it'll be best if we can unwind together and have some fun.
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
Come on Jack. Presidents are hardly tools....sounds like somebody had a bad experience with this in the past.

You've got my vote for curriculum rep though.

Any others care to use this forum as a platform for thier political agenda 🙂
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nothing substancial in the past, but the present- now that's a different story. 😀

thanks for lending me your support though. why don't you run for something?
 
friedcfood said:
Very good concern here...class cohesiveness is best done through doing things together. for example: house parties, superbowl parties, birthday parties, lakers game parties, veags trips, mammoth trips (snowboarding), paintballing, sports...
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Well done fried -

Sounds like a man who knows how to party if you ask me!

I'm too old for all that partying (trips and the sort), but I don't mind living vicariously - like "Oh man you should have seen Luwi, Here atlast, Risa, and Jack they were so drunk and then we got them to go cow tipping!" I'm sure we have actullay progressed passed this stage, but since I have been out of that game for so long, I'm not sure what goes on these days.

I'm definitely down for some trivial pursuit or scrabble! <--actually not even kidding about that, or BBQ at fried's - and I'll say it right now, if the Chargers go to the Super Bowl - party at my house 🙂

But again fried, good point, gotta hang out a bit and unwind.
 
Ryan said:
Melancholy (this question is also posed to everyone else),

I have a question. How important do you feel class cohesiveness is? While at UC Davis, I noticed how some med school classes where much "whinier" and/or stand-off-ish toward each other. Individually, I know that we can survive on our own in medical school. However, cohesion and camaraderie seem to be obviously important just for enjoying the experience... not to mention that rivalry and cliques tend to increase the stress and lower the performance of some students. If camaraderie is relatively important, (it is to me) what would you suggest that we as first year students do in order to gain that feeling of togetherness?
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Hi Ryan,
In my book, class cohesiveness is very important as it can help a class or really screw a class over. You will see how groups within the class develop, who the leaders, whiners, loners, gunners, etc. are. (There is nothing wrong with being any of the above... I just list those as examples.) As some stated previously, a class that can have fun together and organize when necessary will be able to better handle difficult situations that come up. This sort of class will also be able to take care of tasks much more efficiently.

It seems like it will take some time for everyone to settle down... maybe almost a semester or so before you start to see all the class dynamics as a lot of people are just trying to get through the first semester. (Btw, ISACers and SAPPers seem to take leadership roles early as they seem to know the system a little better, so best not to abuse that knowledge and use it to help everyone else. The worst thing someone can do is withhold information that could help a lot of other classmates.) For the first semester or so, it will just be a whole mix of people organizing things, so I would just suggest that people try to organize little fun events here and there while trying not to offend or ignore others who don't want to get involved. I'd also say that communication is very important as it will avoid a lot of misunderstandings. In the end, it is all about being able to balance things. Sometimes the best approach is not to push for things too much and just let it go with the flow.

BTW, some of the COMP staff will be your best allies when it comes to solving class problems including Giselle Tackoor and Dr. Singer-Chang. Just remember to not jump the gun and use the chain of command first unless it really isn't working for ya. Don't worry.. things usually work out in the end and you have a long way to go so don't stress over it for now. 🙂
 
melancholy said:
Hi Ryan,
As some stated previously, a class that can have fun together and organize when necessary will be able to better handle difficult situations that come up. This sort of class will also be able to take care of tasks much more efficiently.

It seems like it will take some time for everyone to settle down... maybe almost a semester or so before you start to see all the class dynamics as a lot of people are just trying to get through the first semester. (Btw, ISACers and SAPPers seem to take leadership roles early as they seem to know the system a little better, so best not to abuse that knowledge and use it to help everyone else. The worst thing someone can do is withhold information that could help a lot of other classmates.) For the first semester or so, it will just be a whole mix of people organizing things, so I would just suggest that people try to organize little fun events here and there while trying not to offend or ignore others who don't want to get involved. I'd also say that communication is very important as it will avoid a lot of misunderstandings. In the end, it is all about being able to balance things. Sometimes the best approach is not to push for things too much and just let it go with the flow.
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Pretty good post Melon - thank you. I agree with your assessment not to push too much, because everyone will be pretty busy settling in, balancing their life around school, etc.

Just be friendly and helpful toward one another and you're bound to start out on the right foot. Think about the Non-ISACers,SMPPers, SDNers - these guys and gals will definitely be looking to make friends and feel welcomed right off the bat. If everyone self-segregates and forms their little groups then how does that help the class...it doesn't. I'm not saying anything new here, just have to put it into motion in a few weeks.
 
automaton said:
my username is a passive protest at the first two years of the medical school curriculum, which emphasizes mindless memorization over conceptual development. it also serves to highlight the fact that personal diversity of interests, pursuits, and creativity are squeezed out by a demanding schedule which often turns people into two dimensional medical dictionaries unable to have any outside interests and unable to think, emote, or care about anything outside the realm of medical trivia.

my avatar is a calculator because we are passive. we do not think, we just have simple programmed algorithms that spit out consistent and predictable answers to others' queries. we cannot do anything actively on our own, we are at the mercy of others - metaphorically speaking the pocket protector wearing geeks - to put us into action. and yet i am smiling, because i have been conditioned through force to accept this fate, find positive aspects in it, and basically perpetuate the status quo. i am a sellout, having whored out myself to medicine. i am a hollow paper mache mephistopheles... and i no longer realize that fact.

i am happy.
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This was taken from a what does your SN/avatar mean forum. "Whored out to medicine"...that's good stuff.
 
Hi all,

Although many people wouldn't believe it, technology can bring people together. Like many classes, the year started with people holding out on material that was passed on by their 2nd year COMPanions and some tensions arose. Then a website was created to equalize everyone; so that everyone can share the same resources. And wouldn't you know it...people started creating and submitting their pharm charts, powerpoint quizzes, educational links etc. to help each other out. In the end, everyone started helping each other and even the most competitive people chilled out. the website later turned into a social kind of site, with pictures and other fun stuff. Although the site is now trimmed down (resources removed as we are now done), it still exists:

http://www.do2004.net

Melancholy knows about the Class of 2005...do you think it helped your class unity?

All the best, and congrats to everyone on your new start as a physician!

Arnold
 
aecuenca2 said:
Hi all,

Although many people wouldn't believe it, technology can bring people together. Like many classes, the year started with people holding out on material that was passed on by their 2nd year COMPanions and some tensions arose. Then a website was created to equalize everyone; so that everyone can share the same resources. And wouldn't you know it...people started creating and submitting their pharm charts, powerpoint quizzes, educational links etc. to help each other out. In the end, everyone started helping each other and even the most competitive people chilled out. the website later turned into a social kind of site, with pictures and other fun stuff. Although the site is now trimmed down (resources removed as we are now done), it still exists:

http://www.do2004.net

Melancholy knows about the Class of 2005...do you think it helped your class unity?

All the best, and congrats to everyone on your new start as a physician!

Arnold
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There it is. Your class site wasn't working for awhile but apparently it works now.

So it seems like we really should have a class site. Whose computer savvy enough to make one. 😎
 
aecuenca2 said:
Hi all,

Although many people wouldn't believe it, technology can bring people together. Like many classes, the year started with people holding out on material that was passed on by their 2nd year COMPanions and some tensions arose. Then a website was created to equalize everyone; so that everyone can share the same resources. And wouldn't you know it...people started creating and submitting their pharm charts, powerpoint quizzes, educational links etc. to help each other out. In the end, everyone started helping each other and even the most competitive people chilled out. the website later turned into a social kind of site, with pictures and other fun stuff. Although the site is now trimmed down (resources removed as we are now done), it still exists:

http://www.do2004.net

Melancholy knows about the Class of 2005...do you think it helped your class unity?

All the best, and congrats to everyone on your new start as a physician!

Arnold
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Arnold's right. The website did make a big deal in terms of equalizing things and trying to make sure everyone got a fair shot at information. I tried to post other things here and there like announcements, games, etc. with limited success. It was just something I took upon myself after talking it over with a classmate one night during our first year. I believe DO2005 is still up at http://www.do2005.net. I know that DO2006 has a website as well and well, DO2007 tried to start one, but not sure what became of it.
 
hello,


Do you guys know if we have to get dressed up to take our year book pictures on August 4th (student processing day)?? I am thinking no because we are also taking our student photo id the same day. Are you guys getting dressed up? I do not think I am going to.


btw: I am a entering pharmacy student. I asked this question here because I havent found any wuhs pharmacy students in the pharm forum.
 
surgical said:
hello,


Do you guys know if we have to get dressed up to take our year book pictures on August 4th (student processing day)?? I am thinking no because we are also taking our student photo id the same day. Are you guys getting dressed up? I do not think I am going to.


btw: I am a entering pharmacy student. I asked this question here because I havent found any wuhs pharmacy students in the pharm forum.
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Welcome surgical,

No you do not NEED to be dressed up, but I must note that the pharm students I have seen here seem to be well dressed a lot of the time. It could just be because some of them are doing some sort of summer thing I think (Some of them were talking about research projects so they could have just been dressed up for presenting). Personally, I will wear my simple blue shirt and kakis. However, as the year goes on shorts and T-shirt will work for me.

-Ryan
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I can't wait till school starts...i'll be heading out on campus wednesday at 2pm to meet financial aid peeps and take care of anything else i need. How are the isac peeps holding up?
 
I figured I would throw this question out there. About a week ago they sent us a document in our email that said the first payment for our tuition is $14K due on Aug. However, I thought we received our cash on Aug 6. Are they just going to automatically take money from our loans to pay the $14K then?
 
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