Concealed weapons permit for pharmacist

[per protocol]

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Any pharmacist out here that have concealed weapon permit? If yes how hard it is to get one in California. Sometime I work late at nights and the place in not safe anymore, so I was thinking about applying for one. I heard that it's hard for white person to get one.

 

[DrHans]

I really hope you are joking about the whole "white person" getting a CCL. But I'll humor you just the same.

This link should answer most of your questions - http://www.packing.org/state/california/#statenote

If you read this page you should get all the information you need on the permit. At the bottom it goes by county and tells you how many permits there are by county.

Please note: Contrary to popular belief, CCW permits are in fact issued within the State of California. The decision is made by appointed city law enforcement or elected county law enforcement. Cities generally defer the decision to the County Sheriff; therefore, the chance of issuance varies from county to county, and from elected Sheriff to elected Sheriff. Keep that in mind when you vote.

The most recent records released by the California Department of Justice (2003) indicate that there are a total of 45,120 current CCW permits within the state. Individual counties are listed below in the locality section.

Also it states -

California State Constitution:
There are NO provisions related to the right to keep and bear arms in the California Constitution.

So I'm guessing that is why there are so few permits issued. So I'm going to just guesstimate that its pretty hard to get a permit. As well as reading a few of the county requirements you might need to pass a pysch test as well as have as many as 3-5 character references on top of proving reasonable cause to having a gun to defend your life. And some require training.

I would suggest maybe taking some self defense classes over purchasing a gun. This coming from a firearms owner who is currently applying for a CCW permit in my state of residence. (Which is NOT California)

 

[WVUPharm2007]

You can legally walk down the street with a shotgun slung around your shoulder in WV. Carry permits are like fishing permits. Pay the fee and there's about a 2% chance you don't get it. I'll probably get one myself.
One of these should do the trick:

 

[per protocol]

thanks for the information, really helpful website; One of my friends, who is realtor, very nice lady, tried to apply for one and got rejected. Their job is very dangerous, they have to go with strangers into strange houses, and still got rejected. She said the people who hadle it are of colour and only issue them to their own.
Pharmacist job is a lot of danger, since we handle CIIs.

 

[DrHans]

A few states in the US only allow CCW's to law enforcement or retired law enforcement. I really don't see the relevance of handling CIIs or being a relator would warrant carrying a gun. If you do not feel safe in a situation, a gun isn't the answer.

 

[sdn1977]

Are you serious? What would you do with a gun?

I've worked nights & in pretty awful areas (hmmmm think Harbor General in LA) & we've always had security. One hospital pharmacy I was in had an actual "panic" button which was used to call security immediately.

So...if you're held up - give away the drugs! Who cares....certainly not your boss nor the DEA. Do you keep money? Get that locked up or picked up so its not available too.

But...a gun? You're as likely to get shot as to shoot someone!

 

[vafcarrot]

Am I the only one who is offended by the racist undertones in this thread?

 

[twester]

Am I the only one who is offended by the racist undertones in this thread?

I'm offended by the senselessness of the thread altogether. Concealed weapons permits... 🙄

 

[sdn1977]

Agree with the previous posters - there is so much offensive about this on many levels....

 

[DrHans]

I see racial offense but I'm going to talk a wild guess and that maybe this person is not from the United States or they are a troll. As for "many levels of offensive behavior", the 2nd amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms. If you are not comfortable about that then you can discuss on another thread why guns should be banned.

Having a CCW doesn't mean they can carry on the premise inside their employment but they can carry in their car. There are state rules and regulations about when and where it is permissible to use/brandish a weapon. You can't just take it out because you want to look cool.

 

[aboveliquidice]

I agree with the previous poster - While you may not agree with the viewpoints put forth in the original post - people are entitled to their opinions. Furthermore - the right to bare arms is an important one. A concealed gun will not disuade someone from acting against you, it gives you a means of reacting. That being said...

If you honestly feel like your life is in mortal danger to do your job (ie you need a gun to feel safe) - move and/or get a new job!!! This is one of those no-brainers... There are a ton of Pharmacist positions out there, and you make enough not to have to practice in a slum. There are plenty of other pharmacist out there that feel safe enough to work w/o a gun - you should really go and join them.

As to having a gun in your car - In the state of florida - you are allowed to have a gun w/o a CWP stored in your car as long as the weapon and the ammo are not stored together & the weapon is out of reach (in your trunk). I dont know if that is helpful.

You cant have a gun in the Pharmacy (at least not the average ones anyway). So perhaps having one stored in your car in the trunk might be an alternative.

Wow - sorry about the length
~above~

 

[Redneck]

I agree with the previous poster - While you may not agree with the viewpoints put forth in the original post - people are entitled to their opinions. Furthermore - the right to bare arms is an important one. A concealed gun will not disuade someone from acting against you, it gives you a means of reacting. That being said...

If you honestly feel like your life is in mortal danger to do your job (ie you need a gun to feel safe) - move and/or get a new job!!! This is one of those no-brainers... There are a ton of Pharmacist positions out there, and you make enough not to have to practice in a slum. There are plenty of other pharmacist out there that feel safe enough to work w/o a gun - you should really go and join them.

As to having a gun in your car - In the state of florida - you are allowed to have a gun w/o a CWP stored in your car as long as the weapon and the ammo are not stored together & the weapon is out of reach (in your trunk). I dont know if that is helpful.

You cant have a gun in the Pharmacy (at least not the average ones anyway). So perhaps having one stored in your car in the trunk might be an alternative.

Wow - sorry about the length
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I wholeheartedly disagree with your position of moving to avoid an unsafe area. If a person runs away then the people making an area unsafe lose one person who could make a small difference with a positive impact. It's like a spiral affect of safe places getting safer with immigration and dangerous areas getting more dangerous by emigration. As Americans we (should) have a purveying culture that embraces standing up to injustices - as seen since our inception with the declaration of independence, and 2nd/4th amendments. Therefore, I applaud anyone who chooses to arm themselves with guns, knives, sprays, tasers, martial arts, or even plain knowledge. Any day a well minded law abiding citizen takes up a gun is one where criminals lose a portion of their power.

With regards to your point that a concealed gun is only a means to react - it is still an essential tool for the propagation of safety. 1) if more people carry weapons then a person is more likely to think twice before they rob or assault someone, knowing they are now risking their own safety for their illicit gain. 2) if a concealed weapon is used, and used well, it can stop the injustice right then and there 3) again, if a concelaed weapon is used then it has the unmeasurable benefit of preventing future crimes that the criminal may have committed in the future. I say that these three points alone warrant the spread and use of concealed weapons.

 

[nikkai]

Must...

Resist....

Chuck... Norris....

Joke...

 

[insipid1979]

With regards to your point that a concealed gun is only a means to react - it is still an essential tool for the propagation of safety. 1) if more people carry weapons then a person is more likely to think twice before they rob or assault someone, knowing they are now risking their own safety for their illicit gain. 2) if a concealed weapon is used, and used well, it can stop the injustice right then and there 3) again, if a concelaed weapon is used then it has the unmeasurable benefit of preventing future crimes that the criminal may have committed in the future. I say that these three points alone warrant the spread and use of concealed weapons.

Except after seeing how stupid people can be with cars. I don't know if I would prefer everyone carrying around a gun. Especially if alcohol gets involved.

Maybe the police can spend more time actually making communities safer instead of sitting on sidestreets pulling over grandmas in Buicks going 4 mph over the limit.

 

[per protocol]

I am going to apply for one, let you know in future posts, how it goes. Hopefuly they will consider my involvement in the community.

 

[ZpackSux]

I am going to apply for one, let you know in future posts, how it goes. Hopefuly they will consider my involvement in the community.

Man..come to texas. You can get a permit by taking a weekend class. It is your constitutional right to carry a gun. Armed society is a safe society.

 

[twester]

Man..come to texas. You can get a permit by taking a weekend class. It is your constitutional right to carry a gun. Armed society is a safe society.

It's our constitutional right to carry a musket. Today's weapons are a far cry from that. And if an armed society is a safe society, then Canada, England and others must be heaven.

 

[sdn1977]

Man..come to texas. You can get a permit by taking a weekend class. It is your constitutional right to carry a gun. Armed society is a safe society.

Do you pull yours out when your staff pharmacists get out of line? Or...perhaps when ID insists Levaquin is the choice they ABSOLUTELY need. Or....maybe..when P&T members want to discuss bringing back Lovenox 😉 ?

So many professional places a concealed weapon could be useful - especially as DOP! 😀

 

[Phantom_Eclipse]

Armed society is a safe society.

You must be joking, right?

Like someone said earlier, after how a lot of people handle their cars, I wouldn't want those same people handle guns. They would just as likely shoot a bystander as they would a criminal 🙄

 

[kkelloww]

Most companies (and all smart ones) have policies that strictly prohibit weapons in the workplace...even if you have a note from your mommie. Also, if you did have a gun, it would be useless in an actual robbery. I've been robbed twice and being a hero is the last thing you think about when a gun is pointed in your face.

 

[ZpackSux]

It's our constitutional right to carry a musket. Today's weapons are a far cry from that. And if an armed society is a safe society, then Canada, England and others must be heaven.

Read and weep..

http://www.reason.com/0211/fe.jm.gun.shtml

 

[dgroulx]

No problem getting a concealed weapons permit in Florida. Take a class, pay the fee and you're done.

My gun is a Beretta 85 Cheetah. It's beautiful with a small grip for a smaller hand. It holds 380 ammo (9mm short) which is enough to pack a punch. Got into guns through a classmate. There are several of us who enjoy shooting.

 

[ZpackSux]

No problem getting a concealed weapons permit in Florida. Take a class, pay the fee and you're done.

My gun is a Beretta 85 Cheetah. It's beautiful with a small grip for a smaller hand. It holds 380 ammo (9mm short) which is enough to pack a punch. Got into guns through a classmate. There are several of us who enjoy shooting.

my kind of gal....

I have 2 Glocks

 

[ZpackSux]

You must be joking, right?

Like someone said earlier, after how a lot of people handle their cars, I wouldn't want those same people handle guns. They would just as likely shoot a bystander as they would a criminal 🙄

Firearms restriction takes guns away from law abiding citizens. Guess what..the ole cliche' of "when you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns" is so true.

 

[ZpackSux]

Do you pull yours out when your staff pharmacists get out of line? Or...perhaps when ID insists Levaquin is the choice they ABSOLUTELY need. Or....maybe..when P&T members want to discuss bringing back Lovenox 😉 ?

So many professional places a concealed weapon could be useful - especially as DOP! 😀

Who are you? You're really one of my staff..aren't you? How do you know this?? Are you stalking me?

 

[sdn1977]

Who are you? You're really one of my staff..aren't you? How do you know this?? Are you stalking me?

You know you hire only the best!

 

[ZpackSux]

You know you hire only the best!

You may be the bestest.... but oh boy..I've made some bad hires...

 

[sdn1977]

You may be the bestest.... but oh boy..I've made some bad hires...

Thus....the concealed weapon???? 🙁 But me.....only in your dreams (or in CA) could you hire me....and I'd run FAST - WITH my Lovenox syringes.....if I knew you kept a weapon in your desk! 😉 😀

 

[ZpackSux]

Thus....the concealed weapon???? 🙁 But me.....only in your dreams (or in CA) could you hire me....and I'd run FAST - WITH my Lovenox syringes.....if I knew you kept a weapon in your desk! 😉 😀

No silly woman.. I don't have a weapon in my office. You know I can't carry it into the hospital. I don't carry it either... it's in a safe place at home.

Now...a lovenox rep has really pissed me off recently. No, I won't shoot him but I might knock him out with some versed and propofol and tattoo Fragmin and Arixtra logo on his forehead.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

You may be the bestest.... but oh boy..I've made some bad hires...

For the last time, that woman in CCU was dead BEFORE I sent down that bag of heparin that wound up being lactated ringers....


I blew $120 a Dave and Buster's today. Best three hours ever.

 

[ZpackSux]

For the last time, that woman in CCU was dead BEFORE I sent down that bag of heparin that wound up being lactated ringers....


I blew $120 a Dave and Buster's today. Best three hours ever.

That woman was a he.. and what did you do with the Sildenafil 100mg that was for his pulmonary hypertension? We're missing 12 tablets.

u huh.. now I see where you got that $120 from...

Mang.. if D&B gives you that much of a joy.. try Dallas Presbyterian.. it's a walking distance from it..

 

[sdn1977]

So...now I know why you need the guns...you're dealing sildenafil on the side (what is it with southern men 😉 )......

z-pack....are you sure you don't have gun rack on that tractor of yours????

 

[Phantom_Eclipse]

Firearms restriction takes guns away from law abiding citizens. Guess what..the ole cliche' of "when you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns" is so true.

I never said I was against owning guns. As long as there is valid reason for owning one(ie working in a bad neighborhood in graveyard shifts), more power to you to protect yourself. However, if drunken Bubba wants one just for the sake of having one, now there's a problem. That's when the car analogy comes in 😉

 

[ZpackSux]

So...now I know why you need the guns...you're dealing sildenafil on the side (what is it with southern men 😉 )......

z-pack....are you sure you don't have gun rack on that tractor of yours????

Despite your stereotypical perception of a John Deere owner.. I'm a civilized suburbanite with a taste for finer things in life... dang it..I just spilled Pace Picante sauce on my chest!

 

[ZpackSux]

I never said I was against owning guns. As long as there is valid reason for owning one(ie working in a bad neighborhood in graveyard shifts), more power to you to protect yourself. However, if drunken Bubba wants one just for the sake of having one, now there's a problem. That's when the car analogy comes in 😉

I need guns to protect myself, family, and friends from Drunken bubbas..

 

[MD2b20004]

What's Next an MD carrying a concealed 9mm during surgery...

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Drunken Bubbas aren't the ones you need to look out for, it's the idiot suburbanites that snap and go on crazy rampages. (Postal carriers, Columbine, etc.)

 

[Phantom_Eclipse]

Whether it is drunkards or crazy suburbanites(prob. more dangerous lol), do ya'll agree that an armed society(at least in the definition that everyone has a gun) is not necessarily a safe society?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

It doesn't matter either way. Take away guns and someone will develop the semiautomatic crossbow.

 

[DHG]

WVU Pharm, I know you know what I am about to say is true...


People who think guns should be illegal have never been to backwoods Appalachia


We were driving around Watauga Lake (near TN-NC border) last week and we got lost and ended up waaaaaay out in the mountains. There are defineately places that you need a gun if you are going to live there. 👍

The Law don't run around here, Lawdog...

 

[DHG]

WVU Pharm, I know you know what I am about to say is true...


People who think guns should be illegal have never been to backwoods Appalachia


We were driving around Watauga Lake (near TN-NC border) last week and we got lost and ended up waaaaaay out in the mountains. There are defineately places that you need a gun if you are going to live there. 👍

The Law don't run around here, Lawdog...

But seriously: NO one should own a gun without taking and being certified in a gun safety course. No reason to have it if you don't know how to properly handle it.

 

[Phantom_Eclipse]

It doesn't matter either way. Take away guns and someone will develop the semiautomatic crossbow.

Silent, but deadly hehe.... 😀

 

[Phantom_Eclipse]

But seriously: NO one should own a gun without taking and being certified in a gun safety course. No reason to have it if you don't know how to properly handle it.

Agreed. All it takes is just the full resposibility of owning one(although that's probably too much to ask these days).

 

[ZpackSux]

But seriously: NO one should own a gun without taking and being certified in a gun safety course. No reason to have it if you don't know how to properly handle it.

Then again because we'll have fools with guns, I need guns for protection.

It's a mini arms race.. when there is a balance, no war breaks out. Only when there is a discrepency in balance of power, do we see wars. Hence, weapons don't cause wars but the lack of weapons do.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Ah hell. If the crazy suburbanite has a handgun (Zpak) that means I need something better.

The arms race is on.

 

[ZpackSux]

Ah hell. If the crazy suburbanite has a handgun (Zpak) that means I need something better.

The arms race is on.

I can easily accumulate an arsenal including a fullbody kevlar suit. Remember I don't have student loans. You know how Reagan bankrupted the USSR? Zpack could bankrupt WVU if this arms race heats up...

Bring it on!

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Yeah, but I gots a crazy uncle with an M60 and hand grenades for 'Nam. Did the Soviets have that? No.

 

[ZpackSux]

Yeah, but I gots a crazy uncle with an M60 and hand grenades for 'Nam. Did the Soviets have that? No.

mmmm...my analogy points you as the Soviet and me as the good guy. And the good guy always wins in the end... in the movies.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

 

[Phantom_Eclipse]

Hence, weapons don't cause wars but the lack of weapons do.

I dont see China and Japan in a war, and I'm sure China has more weapons than Japan 😛 I know what you mean.

BTW How effective is a semiautomatic crossbow in an arms race? 😀