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Hi Y'all!

I hope some faculty/ experienced folk. My friend and I want to start a discussion radio like thing. We both do not identify on the political spectrum but it is an attempt to have an ongoing conversation and discuss the human side of society aside from the ideologies. I wonder if anyone can weigh in on this if it were to come to light to adcoms. It is meant as an empowerment tool. I just am afraid in this increasingly polarized USA how would adcoms see this activity. I really want to go into medicine and it is something I intend to work towards with serving the community and learning. I do understand that reputation is still part of the narrative. I just don't want it to be dashed by some brash college decision. To be honest a hobby like this is bound to step on some toes.

Best Regards. (Sorry if this is long)

Thank you
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I agree with both above posters. This isn't controversial and you're allowed to choose what to list. Have fun!


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I agree with both above posters. This isn't controversial and you're allowed to choose what to list. Have fun!


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That's not controversial.
Okay thank you ! I should have noted that it may be recorded or live streamed. Potentially the idea is to have relevant social problem discussions including but not limited to racism, healthcare, science, ethics, etc. That is the main idea behind asking if that is controversial. A reference idea is NPR but for a younger audience of 20 something-year-olds?
 
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Okay thank you ! I should have noted that it may be recorded or live streamed. Potentially the idea is to have relevant social problem discussions including but not limited to racism, healthcare, science, ethics, etc. That is the main idea behind asking if that is controversial. A reference idea is NPR but for a younger audience of 20 something-year-olds?
What, are you kidding me? Homie, this is good stuff. IF any adcom has his/her toes stepped on by this, you probably don't want to go to their school. In fact, I believe this should strengthen your application because this is a form of engaging the community. You're leading conversation which is encouraging people to collaborate with each other. Isn't this preached by almost all the medical schools?
 
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What, are you kidding me? Homie, this is good stuff. IF any adcom has his/her toes stepped on by this, you probably don't want to go to their school. In fact, I believe this should strengthen your application because this is a form of engaging the community. You're leading conversation which is encouraging people to collaborate with each other. Isn't this preached by almost all the medical schools?
Oh fershure thanks for the words if encouragement fam. Goodluck with the application period
 

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A reference idea is NPR but for a younger audience of 20 something-year-olds?
I know I'm old, but are 20 something not able to handle NPRish content?
 
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I know I'm old, but are 20 something not able to handle NPRish content?
I agree with you but it's not so much a content issue(kinda) but a delivery issue. I just said NPR because I have fond memories when the parents listened to the radio and that's what comes to mind.
 

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I agree with you but it's not so much a content issue(kinda) but a delivery issue. I just said NPR because I have fond memories when the parents listened to the radio and that's what comes to mind.
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm getting at. Pure curiosity on this part.
 
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Yeah, that's kind of what I'm getting at. Pure curiosity on this part.
The rapid news cycle, constant bombardment, general immaturity. It is kind of hard to explain but it is definitely a point that the technology is increasing in speed in terms of information inflow but the conversation is lagging way behind it. That's part of the delivery issue. I feel like I don't know enough just yet to explain what I mean. This is still a dream born yesterday night.
 

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They're good. In fact their latest episode on healthcare is extremely insightful and informative. I dunno what you've heard.
Good god, I listened to that on the way home while stuck in Lollapalooza traffic, and I think I lost brain cells during the second half of it. (the first half up thru Biederman's rant actually wasn't terrible, and kinda reminded me of the old Al Franken Show episodes on Air America that my old PI used to blast in in our lab back in college).

But yeah, the second half was typical Chapo, and I see I haven't been missing much. It was also a nice reminder of how similar DSA members and libertarians have in common in their view of politics...and not in a good way at all.
 

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(sigh).

For @DHANU or anyone else in to brining up current events or similar in your application the thread above does bring up some of the dangerous pitfalls that can arise if that's the route you want to go.

For one, making the assumption that others aren't as or more aware of a topic than you are, particularly if it's somewhat obscure, and/or getting overly defensive about having your position criticized is a nice way to get caught saying something dumb or get dismissed as a bullsh-tter.

I doubt you've ever wandered into the SDN politics boards, but you're talking to a leftie who's been following the socialist/left alt-media landscape since long before chapo trap house was even a thing, and that included Felix and Will (who are admittedly occasionally hilarious). Not to mention the other associates like Bruenig, Halpert, Nagle, Peyser, O'Sullivan, etc...not to mention the fact that a lot of that landscape is based here in Chicago and includes old school left stuff like In These Times, Haymarket and more fringe guys like Kevin Gozstola, plus a whole bunch of freelancers covering activist movements in the midwest and nationally. ...and let's not forget the number of grifters from TYT who showed up at the PPL summit back in June. I'm friends with people in left wing media, but let's not pretend that there's not a lot of crap out there too, and the auto-defense of a lot of them reaches a level of unhinged that you see from right wing talk radio. However, sadly it seems like the way college students and 20-something view political media is "yay, they're saying something I agree with" without giving it critical analysis.

The problem with the episode is that Faust's (who's level of expertise is literally the fact that he's a masters level grad student :rolleyes:) rundown on how the ACA was passed was more than a little misleading, particularly leaving out the fact that the national public option came aggravatingly close to getting thru the Senate after already passing the house. However, when your entire shtick is trying to snark against the establishment rather than nuts and bolts of policy and policymaking you can excuse that level of intellectual dishonestly. Plus, Faust and his ilk (Bruenig is legendary for this) really need acknowledge that the government payer = lowered costs is basically the Laffer curve of the left unless you have specific policies and implementations built into the system, many of which are likely to be politically unpopular. I'd take the modern DSA more seriously if they were willing to start promoting and defending actual bills that include specific cost controls rather than stupid publicity stunts like SB562 in California. For those of us who follow the nuts and bolts of the legislative process of health care, it's frustrating how a lot of leftists seem more intent on trying to make a point about "corporate dems" than trying to create something that will actually function.

Plus if you're going to publicly stan for a podcast, choosing the one whose Holden Caulfield of a co-host was called out for mocking a rape victim's rape online only two weeks ago is probably not the smartest decision you can make.
 
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(sigh).

For @DHANU or anyone else in to brining up current events or similar in your application the thread above does bring up some of the dangerous pitfalls that can arise if that's the route you want to go.

For one, making the assumption that others aren't as or more aware of a topic than you are, particularly if it's somewhat obscure, and/or getting overly defensive about having your position criticized is a nice way to get caught saying something dumb or get dismissed as a bullsh-tter.

I doubt you've ever wandered into the SDN politics boards, but you're talking to a leftie who's been following the socialist/left alt-media landscape since long before chapo trap house was even a thing, and that included Felix and Will (who are admittedly occasionally hilarious). Not to mention the other associates like Bruenig, Halpert, Nagle, Peyser, O'Sullivan, etc...not to mention the fact that a lot of that landscape is based here in Chicago and includes old school left stuff like In These Times, Haymarket and more fringe guys like Kevin Gozstola, plus a whole bunch of freelancers covering activist movements in the midwest and nationally. ...and let's not forget the number of grifters from TYT who showed up at the PPL summit back in June. I'm friends with people in left wing media, but let's not pretend that there's not a lot of crap out there too, and the auto-defense of a lot of them reaches a level of unhinged that you see from right wing talk radio. However, sadly it seems like the way college students and 20-something view political media is "yay, they're saying something I agree with" without giving it critical analysis.

The problem with the episode is that Faust's (who's level of expertise is literally the fact that he's a masters level grad student :rolleyes:) rundown on how the ACA was passed was more than a little misleading, particularly leaving out the fact that the national public option came aggravatingly close to getting thru the Senate after already passing the house. However, when your entire shtick is trying to snark against the establishment rather than nuts and bolts of policy and policymaking you can excuse that level of intellectual dishonestly. Plus, Faust and his ilk (Bruenig is legendary for this) really need acknowledge that the government payer = lowered costs is basically the Laffer curve of the left unless you have specific policies and implementations built into the system, many of which are likely to be politically unpopular. I'd take the modern DSA more seriously if they were willing to start promoting and defending actual bills that include specific cost controls rather than stupid publicity stunts like SB562 in California. For those of us who follow the nuts and bolts of the legislative process of health care, it's frustrating how a lot of leftists seem more intent on trying to make a point about "corporate dems" than trying to create something that will actually function.

Plus if you're going to publicly stan for a podcast, choosing the one whose Holden Caulfield of a co-host was called out for mocking a rape victim's rape online only two weeks ago is probably not the smartest decision you can make.
sigh I hear yah. We'll see it what the actual product will turn out to be. Frankly
(sigh).

For @DHANU or anyone else in to brining up current events or similar in your application the thread above does bring up some of the dangerous pitfalls that can arise if that's the route you want to go.

For one, making the assumption that others aren't as or more aware of a topic than you are, particularly if it's somewhat obscure, and/or getting overly defensive about having your position criticized is a nice way to get caught saying something dumb or get dismissed as a bullsh-tter.

I doubt you've ever wandered into the SDN politics boards, but you're talking to a leftie who's been following the socialist/left alt-media landscape since long before chapo trap house was even a thing, and that included Felix and Will (who are admittedly occasionally hilarious). Not to mention the other associates like Bruenig, Halpert, Nagle, Peyser, O'Sullivan, etc...not to mention the fact that a lot of that landscape is based here in Chicago and includes old school left stuff like In These Times, Haymarket and more fringe guys like Kevin Gozstola, plus a whole bunch of freelancers covering activist movements in the midwest and nationally. ...and let's not forget the number of grifters from TYT who showed up at the PPL summit back in June. I'm friends with people in left wing media, but let's not pretend that there's not a lot of crap out there too, and the auto-defense of a lot of them reaches a level of unhinged that you see from right wing talk radio. However, sadly it seems like the way college students and 20-something view political media is "yay, they're saying something I agree with" without giving it critical analysis.

The problem with the episode is that Faust's (who's level of expertise is literally the fact that he's a masters level grad student :rolleyes:) rundown on how the ACA was passed was more than a little misleading, particularly leaving out the fact that the national public option came aggravatingly close to getting thru the Senate after already passing the house. However, when your entire shtick is trying to snark against the establishment rather than nuts and bolts of policy and policymaking you can excuse that level of intellectual dishonestly. Plus, Faust and his ilk (Bruenig is legendary for this) really need acknowledge that the government payer = lowered costs is basically the Laffer curve of the left unless you have specific policies and implementations built into the system, many of which are likely to be politically unpopular. I'd take the modern DSA more seriously if they were willing to start promoting and defending actual bills that include specific cost controls rather than stupid publicity stunts like SB562 in California. For those of us who follow the nuts and bolts of the legislative process of health care, it's frustrating how a lot of leftists seem more intent on trying to make a point about "corporate dems" than trying to create something that will actually function.

Plus if you're going to publicly stan for a podcast, choosing the one whose Holden Caulfield of a co-host was called out for mocking a rape victim's rape online only two weeks ago is probably not the smartest decision you can make.
Sigh I hear yah I mean I was wrestling with the option but it is clear that I don't know enough about the landscape to even analyze. I don't think the podcast is gonna occur because of this.

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