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Check out this job on gaswork.com #55512
Its real and its good. No strings attached. Partner from day one. Good money. Call 1 in 7.
Its real and its good. No strings attached. Partner from day one. Good money. Call 1 in 7.
I phone interviewed with a number of groups that advertised on gaswork and agree that many of them are misrepresented on the site. I don't know if that is purposeful or not, but it seems to be the case. I found this particularly true of positions in NY. Certain ones advertise that they pay a minimum of $290-$300k and then get you on the phone and tell you that they'll start you at $260k and include paid malpractice, etc. to arrive at the listed figure. Many of them play that game...don't fall for it. There are plenty of jobs, both listed on gaswork and unlisted, that will do MUCH better than that.
Just my experience thus far, for what it's worth 🙂
PMMD
Just my experience thus far, for what it's worth 🙂
PMMD
fine, don't interview.
Whoa! Didn't see that there was 12 weeks vacation! Please ignore the above posting.
Durango is such a neat town, went there a lot when I was a kid, you could live like a king there, house high in the mountains, for not that much money. Someone will be happy with that job🙂
my advice:
1) Choose a geographical location
2) Choose metropolitan vs rural within that location
3) Find the major hospitals
4) Contact their chiefs of anesthesia directly
a) They will either say no
b) or maybe
c) or yes - they are looking or were about to start looking
5) Then ask the typical questions (malpractice, surgeons, contract exclusivety, etc... don't ask about call or vacation first - leave that to the 2nd phone call. As an employer if that is the 1st thing somebody asks me, then i lose interest instantly).
6) Through a friend of a friend try to locate a few surgeons in that same town and find out what they think of their colleagues (it gives you somewhat of an inside scoop (ie: "the hospital is looking to contract w/ another anesthesia group) - and it also tells you about what the potential relationship is like)... the easiest way to do this is to find your local gen surg buddy during residency and have him cold call the surgery department as if he/she were looking for a surgery job...
7) DON"T LOOK AT STARTING SALARY - unless you just plan on doing gun-for-hire/locum tenens... Starting salaries are frequently inflated w/ "benefits". The most important number is what the partners are making and what the partnership structure is. Ie: Does one dicck-wad own the company and dictate rules/policy? or does every partner get an equal vote... this applies to the finances as well. They might tell you that every partner gets an equal vote on who to hire for a secretary, but in reality there is one guy who owns the company and makes the real decisions.
Frequently the BEST jobs (ie: best group of docs w/ best surgeons and wonderful reimbursement w/ great location) start w/ relatively low salaries in comparison because it is super easy for them to find candidates.... Frequently the WORST jobs have the HIGH salaries because there is a need that can't be filled (crappy location, bad relationship w/ the hospital - call q2... whatever).
now of course the detective work takes more time, but in the end you will be able to avoid the head-hunters (who are useless 95% of the time) and uncover some diamonds in the rough.
also remember that if you have a family - you won't be happy if Momma ain't happy...
1) Choose a geographical location
2) Choose metropolitan vs rural within that location
3) Find the major hospitals
4) Contact their chiefs of anesthesia directly
a) They will either say no
b) or maybe
c) or yes - they are looking or were about to start looking
5) Then ask the typical questions (malpractice, surgeons, contract exclusivety, etc... don't ask about call or vacation first - leave that to the 2nd phone call. As an employer if that is the 1st thing somebody asks me, then i lose interest instantly).
6) Through a friend of a friend try to locate a few surgeons in that same town and find out what they think of their colleagues (it gives you somewhat of an inside scoop (ie: "the hospital is looking to contract w/ another anesthesia group) - and it also tells you about what the potential relationship is like)... the easiest way to do this is to find your local gen surg buddy during residency and have him cold call the surgery department as if he/she were looking for a surgery job...
7) DON"T LOOK AT STARTING SALARY - unless you just plan on doing gun-for-hire/locum tenens... Starting salaries are frequently inflated w/ "benefits". The most important number is what the partners are making and what the partnership structure is. Ie: Does one dicck-wad own the company and dictate rules/policy? or does every partner get an equal vote... this applies to the finances as well. They might tell you that every partner gets an equal vote on who to hire for a secretary, but in reality there is one guy who owns the company and makes the real decisions.
Frequently the BEST jobs (ie: best group of docs w/ best surgeons and wonderful reimbursement w/ great location) start w/ relatively low salaries in comparison because it is super easy for them to find candidates.... Frequently the WORST jobs have the HIGH salaries because there is a need that can't be filled (crappy location, bad relationship w/ the hospital - call q2... whatever).
now of course the detective work takes more time, but in the end you will be able to avoid the head-hunters (who are useless 95% of the time) and uncover some diamonds in the rough.
also remember that if you have a family - you won't be happy if Momma ain't happy...
also remember that if you have a family - you won't be happy if Momma ain't happy...[/QUOTE]
Ain't nobody happy! That is the truth and part of the reason I am going where I'm going. 🙂
Ain't nobody happy! That is the truth and part of the reason I am going where I'm going. 🙂
forgot to mention to make sure that they cover your tail if for some reason you are fired.... it can be very costly
i had a buddy who got a great job in a big city - worked there for 4 months before deciding on paying a down-payment on a sweet condo, bought a new Audi A6 - only to find out that the group lost one of their contracts and that since he was the most recent hire that he would have to go... and the tail coverage for him was 28,000$ due within 30 days!!!!!
i had a buddy who got a great job in a big city - worked there for 4 months before deciding on paying a down-payment on a sweet condo, bought a new Audi A6 - only to find out that the group lost one of their contracts and that since he was the most recent hire that he would have to go... and the tail coverage for him was 28,000$ due within 30 days!!!!!
not bad.. only problem i seee up front is you are an employee.. and its in the middle of no where..
you dont want to ever get into a situation where you are someones employee .. hospital or anybody else...
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If you were hiring new grads in 2008, I'd sign in blood and fork over my left nut.
This is the only way to make it work, read: there are not enough cases to make this amount of money with this much vacation.
And i gotta tell you that I never wanted to be anybody's employee but I don't mind it here at all. I have hand. We also have total control here.
thank you all for your input to my original question, maybe people would like to share individual experiences about their jobsearch...?
i interviewed a few years ago with a group in oregon, everybody was very nice and i was told that they would contact me, then i received an invitation for a second interview , this time with my wife (ok, they would pay for tickets and hotel,) but still, its a crosscountry trip and off workfor several days. what are your thoughts about that would you go for it?
fasto
i interviewed a few years ago with a group in oregon, everybody was very nice and i was told that they would contact me, then i received an invitation for a second interview , this time with my wife (ok, they would pay for tickets and hotel,) but still, its a crosscountry trip and off workfor several days. what are your thoughts about that would you go for it?
fasto
Second looks mean they are interested, but still not sure....I've invited folks for second looks...so that more of my partners can interview the potential new employee.
this is - BAR NONE - the best practical advice i've seen on this forum to date concerning how to secure the job you want!!
well done, tenesma!
everyone else reading here, forget whatever else you've heard and follow this advice.
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