crim check?

[MiesVanDerMom]

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what crimes keep you out of med school?

 

[avinash]

speeding tickets...parking tickets....

haha i dont even know....i geuss petty offecens are ok

but i wouldnt venture into the misodemenor and felony areas...

 

[Khenon]

Good question! I don't know, but my friend is totally freaked out because she got a minor infraction on her school record at her undergrad university. She was walking back to her dorm, and had been drinking (under age), and the dorm resident (in charge) caught her. It's not on any kind of police record, but I guess if one were to dig far enough this incident would come up (it didn't come up on a basic criminal record search though). Anyway, she didn't put it on her app, and she's afraid the schools are going to do a thorough search and see it and think she's a lier (she didn't put it because she didn't think it qualified as a misdemeanor, but then found out later it technically is). Anyway, I'd be curious to know if something like this could really keep her out of med school.

 

[cooldreams]

any crime you cant talk your way out of... 😀

 

[dr.z]

Felony convictions may, but anything less I wouldn't worry about it too much. I know that there are people who get in even with felony on their record so I'm not sure where the cut off is exactly.

 

[cooldreams]

Felony convictions may, but anything less I wouldn't worry about it too much. I know that there are people who get in even with felony on their record so I'm not sure where the cut off is exactly.

any crime you can ta..aah nevermind.... 🙄

 

[stoic]

Good question! I don't know, but my friend is totally freaked out because she got a minor infraction on her school record at her undergrad university. She was walking back to her dorm, and had been drinking (under age), and the dorm resident (in charge) caught her. It's not on any kind of police record, but I guess if one were to dig far enough this incident would come up (it didn't come up on a basic criminal record search though). Anyway, she didn't put it on her app, and she's afraid the schools are going to do a thorough search and see it and think she's a lier (she didn't put it because she didn't think it qualified as a misdemeanor, but then found out later it technically is). Anyway, I'd be curious to know if something like this could really keep her out of med school.

this isn't going to matter. i promise. your friend can relax.

 

[MadameLULU]

I have a friend who stole a car and crashed it during his junior year in college. He got accepted to med school (Wash U, U. of Colorado).

 

[Mediculous]

I have a friend who stole a car and crashed it during his junior year in college. He got accepted to med school (Wash U, U. of Colorado).

Wow, that's great news! Now I can pursue my dreams without sacrificing one or the other. I've always wanted to gank a car and jump a bridge---even before I wanted to be a doctor. I actually started thinking about becoming a doctor so I could help out when young dreamchasers realized their aspirations and most likely set off the air bag in the process. Get me my racing sunglasses. Let's do this.

 

[CanuckRazorback]

A student at UAMS (U of Arkansas for Medical Sciences) murdered his wife (a 6th year neurosurgery resident) before committing suicide back in August. The student lied on his application. He did not report other offenses (such as assault, etc.) The school didn't find out until after the tragic incident occurred. I remember reading articles soon after the incident about how med schools might start criminal background checks. An admissions officer at Pittburgh said in one of these articles that the applicants who had declared criminal offenses on their application did not gain admittance. One had killed his girlfriend if I remember right. The officer stated that he strongly questioned how criminals could save lives when they have destroyed it before. I tend to agree with that statement. I doubt that underage drinking would affect someone's application, unless it was a DUI.

 

[stoic]

A student at UAMS (U of Arkansas for Medical Sciences) murdered his wife (a 6th year neurosurgery resident) before committing suicide back in August. The student lied on his application. He did not report other offenses (such as assault, etc.) The school didn't find out until after the tragic incident occurred. I remember reading articles soon after the incident about how med schools might start criminal background checks. An admissions officer at Pittburgh said in one of these articles that the applicants who had declared criminal offenses on their application did not gain admittance. One had killed his girlfriend if I remember right. The officer stated that he strongly questioned how criminals could save lives when they have destroyed it before. I tend to agree with that statement. I doubt that underage drinking would affect someone's application, unless it was a DUI.

most of us have done things for which we could have gotten into some kind of criminal trouble (underage drinking, smoking pot, vandalism, vicious pranks,etc, etc) and a much smaller percentage of those people have been caught. med schools know this, after all, admission committees are not staffed by perfect people. so as long as you so that you've grown up since then, med schools aren't going to skewer you b/c you're the one who got caught (at least for smaller stuff). now if you've got felonies on your record, that's a problem. med schools are gonna look at a felony really closely.


some creeps will always slip through the cracks, unfortunately.

 

[Blake]

most of us have done things for which we could have gotten into some kind of criminal trouble (underage drinking, smoking pot, vandalism, vicious pranks,etc, etc)

Most of us ? I think the most rebellious student in my class hasn't even done one of these things.

 

[stoic]

Most of us ? I think the most rebellious student in my class hasn't even done one of these things.

yea, right...

 

[cooldreams]

the craziest thing i did was cross the street that my parents told me not to cross.. since then i speed a few mph over the limit every so often... seriously... i dont do bad stuff... im surprised at ppl who do and think it is ok... like, are you in denial, that you are not really doing something bad? i guess that is why they say the first step to recovering is admitting you have a problem 😛

😀

 

[MiesVanDerMom]

So do you think they view a property crime differently from a violent one? I wonder if there is anywhere to find out for sure...

 

[cooldreams]

So do you think they view a property crime differently from a violent one? I wonder if there is anywhere to find out for sure...

well... uh... u could, maybe.... if you wanted to... uhmm.. ask them?

 

[Khenon]

this isn't going to matter. i promise. your friend can relax.

I completely agree. I've been trying to ease her mind about the whole thing, but she's so worried about it. Her main worry isn't that they're going to care about the infraction. What she's worried about is that she DIDN'T list it, so now she thinks they'll find it and question her ethics. Anyway, I don't think they'd even find it (she herself did a basic background check on herself and it didn't come up), so it's probably a moot issue. I can understand her concern though . . . of all the things to keep you out of med school, right! 🙂

 

[bigbassinbob]

Most of us ? I think the most rebellious student in my class hasn't even done one of these things.

You sound like the most naive person in the world. Do you sleep in candy cane land and wear elmo tighty whities too??? Or is it Kermit the frog??

 

[Eyecon82]

Most of us ? I think the most rebellious student in my class hasn't even done one of these things.

😱 open your eyes 😱

 

[Eyecon82]

So do you think they view a property crime differently from a violent one? I wonder if there is anywhere to find out for sure...

Yea of course....I'm sure they look at violent offences more seriously. Oh well well that you that you egged someone's house...but if you threw eggs at someone...2 different stories there..

 

[cooldreams]

You sound like the most naive person in the world. Do you sleep in candy cane land and wear elmo tighty whities too??? Or is it Kermit the frog??

i have monkey pj's 😀

seriously, what is wrong with NOT doing something bad? you are like everyone else who has done stuff bad and is all worked up about it to the point that you gotta make others feel bad for being good.... good job man....

 

[bigbassinbob]

i have monkey pj's 😀

seriously, what is wrong with NOT doing something bad? you are like everyone else who has done stuff bad and is all worked up about it to the point that you gotta make others feel bad for being good.... good job man....

There's absolutely nothing wrong with staying out of trouble. If you've lived your life without doing anything wrong, then congratulations, you're one in a million. But to say that the most rebelious person in an entire medical school class hasn't done anything bad is just downright stupid. You would have to be the most secluded, oblivious, and unintelligent person to say something like that. Apparently, the guy who I insulted is just that person.

 

[stoic]

there's no need to insult people b/c they haven't had the same experiences as you. there are people who have lived a life that keeps them out of trouble, and there's nothing wrong with that.

but i will say that i know a lot of medical students (and i will soon be one) and i can say that 90% of them have at one time or another done something that could have gotten them in trouble with the law (lol... i've been there w/a few of them!)

so maybe i know a rotten bunch of med students, but i think it's rather more likely that med students are normal people who make normal mistakes.

 

[Dr. Donkey]

so maybe i know a rotten bunch of med students, but i think it's rather more likely that med students are normal people who make normal mistakes.

Haven't you heard? It's only a mistake if you get caught.

 

[MiesVanDerMom]

I talked to admissions at my number one school pick and explained my situation and they said they didn't know how it would be looked upon and I would just have to apply and see.

I can't really afford to spend thousands of dollars taking the rest of my pre-reqs, taking the MCATs and applying (not to mention time and energy) only to take a gamble to see if these arrogant admissions people are in a good mood or not the day my case comes their way. What a load of crap. If you don't want someone who committed an idiotic misdemeanor mistake then just tell me.

There's got to be something else I can do with my life that isn't this ridiculous.

 

[stinkycheese]

I talked to admissions at my number one school pick and explained my situation and they said they didn't know how it would be looked upon and I would just have to apply and see.

What else can they say, really? Did you make an appt with the Dean, or talk to office staff? The office staff can't tell you much - it's not appropriate. And how can they speak for the whole ad com anyway?

I can't really afford to spend thousands of dollars taking the rest of my pre-reqs, taking the MCATs and applying (not to mention time and energy) only to take a gamble to see if these arrogant admissions people are in a good mood or not the day my case comes their way. What a load of crap. If you don't want someone who committed an idiotic misdemeanor mistake then just tell me.

Every pre-med gambles. There are no guarantees.

There's got to be something else I can do with my life that isn't this ridiculous.

I am sorry you can't separate the admissions process from the education and career. With the amount of anger you seem to have about this and the dismissive tone of your post, I wonder if you would have lasted doing "ridiculous" stuff like memorizing histology slides in medical school anyway.