Current Nova Dental Students please help me :(

[hteteibo]

Hi there

I have accepted an offer from Nova dental school and I guess I just need reassurance that Ive made the right decision.

I was also given an offer from NYCD but its too expensive for me (living costs) and when I went to Nova for my interview, I liked the laid back enviornment in florida.

Ive just heard so many bad things about nova like how you wont get to practise on enough patients etc.

All I want to know is how does it look for nova dentists that want to specialise? Do other schools have a bad oponin of nova grads???

Please help. I just need reassurance or the truth, whichever it is.

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[phungy]

Just a side note on your comment about expensive living:
I have D2 and D3 friends at Nova.
They pay $700-900/mo for a 1-2 bedroom.
In NYC its $700-900/mo for a 2-3 bedroom.
Not that much more expensive honestly..

 

[sexyDMD]

Hello my name is Lobna I just graduated from the BMS program in May and will still be living in south florida. Im currently looking for a trustworthy roommate i will be moving to a 2 bedroom 2 bath in the miramar / pembroke pines area which is about 10mins from NSU and extremely close to all major highways. Please let me know if you can help me get the word out or if you know anyone in the program who is also looking for a roommate. contact me at [email protected]

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

The frustrating thing I would see with a degree from Nova is that unless you're practicing in southern Florida, most people/patients never heard of it and may automatically, and perhaps incorrectly, assume that it's a cheesy no-name school.

We can all agree that an NYU degree on your wall in your practice will provide prestige and validity and legitimacy to your education and training in the eyes of your patients, who ultimately provide you with your livelihood.

And what happens if you want to settle down on the west coast after dental school? What happens when you apply for an Associate position 3000+ miles away? When all those hiring doctors out there have USC/UCLA/UofP/UCSF degrees, will they provide the Nova grad an equal chance as they would with a NYU grad? I'm not so sure they would. And it's not like the Nova grad can easily find a job in Florida which is supersaturated with dentists.

As for specializing, programs tend to favor students from research-based schools and NYU would've provided more specialty opportunities than Nova. There's also a stigma against relatively newer schools and understandably so as they are still developing the program.

 

[7 Iron]

Just a side note on your comment about expensive living:
I have D2 and D3 friends at Nova.
They pay $700-900/mo for a 1-2 bedroom.
In NYC its $700-900/mo for a 2-3 bedroom.
Not that much more expensive honestly..

No way. $700-$900 gets a 2-3 bedroom in NYC? That would get you a closet maybe.

 

[Salmon1]

The frustrating thing I would see with a degree from Nova is that unless you're practicing in southern Florida, most people/patients never heard of it and may automatically, and perhaps incorrectly, assume that it's a cheesy no-name school.

We can all agree that an NYU degree on your wall in your practice will provide prestige and validity and legitimacy to your education and training in the eyes of your patients, who ultimately provide you with your livelihood.

And what happens if you want to settle down on the west coast after dental school? What happens when you apply for an Associate position 3000+ miles away? When all those hiring doctors out there have USC/UCLA/UofP/UCSF degrees, will they provide the Nova grad an equal chance as they would with a NYU grad? I'm not so sure they would. And it's not like the Nova grad can easily find a job in Florida which is supersaturated with dentists.

As for specializing, programs tend to favor students from research-based schools and NYU would've provided more specialty opportunities than Nova. There's also a stigma against relatively newer schools and understandably so as they are still developing the program.

First off, no patient ever asks where their dentist/physician went to school, because the majority of them do not care. Secondly, NYU has had a bad reputation among older dental professionals, but recently have made major changes to their clinics/program and therefore only now garnering more respect. Older dentists that would be hiring an associate would not be impressed with a degree just because it is from NYU, it might actually be a turn off for them. Thirdly, any dental graduate from any dental school can get into any speciality. It depends on your GPA, NBDE scores, and extracurriculars. Research is not a huge prerequisite for a lot of specialities.

 

[hoylematt]

Just a side note on your comment about expensive living:
I have D2 and D3 friends at Nova.
They pay $700-900/mo for a 1-2 bedroom.
In NYC its $700-900/mo for a 2-3 bedroom.
Not that much more expensive honestly..

This guy has no idea about rent prices. I assume NY is equal to or worse than California and $700 bucks for a 2 bedroom is unrealistic. Now splitting the rent for that would be more like it.

 

[camshaft]

You can definitely find an apartment in Manhattan paying $900 per person in a 3 bedroom, but the issue is where in Manhattan. For that price you may end up closer to upper Manhattan and taking the subway down to lower Manhattan each day to go to school. If you're talking about a decent apartment that's walking distance from NYU then yes it could be tough for that price.

I agree that most patients don't give much, if any, regard to where their dentist went to school. Personally I'd still pick Nova over NYU. I wasn't feeling it for NYU when I interviewed there.

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

First off, no patient ever asks where their dentist/physician went to school, because the majority of them do not care.

Oh, did you conduct a scientific research study to make that claim?

In fact, a doctor's education and training is a big factor in how I choose my doctors. Last thing I want is some uneducated incompetent fool who barely got into some cheesy dental/med school to be diagnosing and treating me.

 

[Salmon1]

Oh, did you conduct a scientific research study to make that claim?

In fact, a doctor's education and training is a big factor in how I choose my doctors. Last thing I want is some uneducated incompetent fool who barely got into some cheesy dental/med school to be diagnosing and treating me.

Wow, that's alarming. You do realize that every school graduates some really awful and some really good doctors, right? The school does not dictate how good of a doctor you are.

 

[whodat4life]

This guy has no idea about rent prices. I assume NY is equal to or worse than California and $700 bucks for a 2 bedroom is unrealistic. Now splitting the rent for that would be more like it.

+1, unless he's living somewhere in section 8 housing projects in Queens or something.

 

[ridhi465]

In fact, a doctor's education and training is a big factor in how I choose my doctors. Last thing I want is some uneducated incompetent fool who barely got into some cheesy dental/med school to be diagnosing and treating me.

That is just unbelievably rude.

 

[TheOMSProject]

The frustrating thing I would see with a degree from Nova is that unless you're practicing in southern Florida, most people/patients never heard of it and may automatically, and perhaps incorrectly, assume that it's a cheesy no-name school.

We can all agree that an NYU degree on your wall in your practice will provide prestige and validity and legitimacy to your education and training in the eyes of your patients, who ultimately provide you with your livelihood.

And what happens if you want to settle down on the west coast after dental school? What happens when you apply for an Associate position 3000+ miles away? When all those hiring doctors out there have USC/UCLA/UofP/UCSF degrees, will they provide the Nova grad an equal chance as they would with a NYU grad? I'm not so sure they would. And it's not like the Nova grad can easily find a job in Florida which is supersaturated with dentists.

As for specializing, programs tend to favor students from research-based schools and NYU would've provided more specialty opportunities than Nova. There's also a stigma against relatively newer schools and understandably so as they are still developing the program.

A predent giving advice to those who are already accepted to dental schools? Intriguing. I would like to see where you end up before you continue offering your expertise.

This is just ridiculous nonsense. I guess all those students who chose Nova over NYU are idiots for wanting to go to the more competitive and cheaper school. NYU is a good school, but unless you're a student at Nova or have interview at the school I don't think you're qualified to present such argument.

 

[mike3kgt]

Oh, did you conduct a scientific research study to make that claim?

In fact, a doctor's education and training is a big factor in how I choose my doctors. Last thing I want is some uneducated incompetent fool who barely got into some cheesy dental/med school to be diagnosing and treating me.

First of all, NYU for the most part, on a reputation level is very good inside of the greater NY metro and surrounding states. Outside of that area, the reputation of NYU and all of NY/NJ dentistry is generally not good.

I practiced in many places, been in several dental schools, and have taught in board preparation courses WREB/FL and have personally seen the level of education and skill of NY/NJ dentistry and can be relatively scary.

I also have sat on committees to select residents for graduate programs and, also, NYU grads were given no special preference. In fact, many times the opposite.

Nova is a relatively unknown school whose reputation is still to be determined. Solid clinical education, however, there are some who don't feel good about some of the graduates and some who love to hire Nova grads. A west coast patient will not know the difference between a school like NYU/Nova/MUSC/Temple etc. They will know (in Southern CA) the difference between a UCLA, USC, and UOP dentist generally speaking.

They will say "Oh you went to Ohio State? Michigan? wow great schools solely because of the football team exposure and maybe a little bit of knowledge of large school academics. Also, names like "Harvard" do carry a lot of weight not because of strength of their dental education, but just their name. I've also seen some truly gifted smart people at a school like Harvard, but quite a few very very poor clinicians. Funny yes? But the name itself does carry weight nationally, unlike "NYU."

Many people in the west coast tend to look unfavorably upon NYers anyways, why do you think a NYU degree will better that?

Whatever you believe, stick with it, but you cannot make generalizations like "NYU diplomas will get you better odds at speciality or a job!" Even my experiences, however, don't tell the whole story, just my experiences in the 5 short years of clinical practice, residency, and academia.

 

[alh002]

Oh, did you conduct a scientific research study to make that claim?

In fact, a doctor's education and training is a big factor in how I choose my doctors. Last thing I want is some uneducated incompetent fool who barely got into some cheesy dental/med school to be diagnosing and treating me.

All schools, at one point, were new and unestablished. To say that those graduating from newer schools are uneducated and incompetent says a lot of your maturity level and ignorance. All dental schools are accredited for that reason, and all students have to pass their national board exams and licensing exams to ensure their qualification. Please, enlighten us on what "prestigious" dental school you attend?

 

[Lethstang]

The frustrating thing I would see with a degree from Nova is that unless you're practicing in southern Florida, most people/patients never heard of it and may automatically, and perhaps incorrectly, assume that it's a cheesy no-name school.

We can all agree that an NYU degree on your wall in your practice will provide prestige and validity and legitimacy to your education and training in the eyes of your patients, who ultimately provide you with your livelihood.

And what happens if you want to settle down on the west coast after dental school? What happens when you apply for an Associate position 3000+ miles away? When all those hiring doctors out there have USC/UCLA/UofP/UCSF degrees, will they provide the Nova grad an equal chance as they would with a NYU grad? I'm not so sure they would. And it's not like the Nova grad can easily find a job in Florida which is supersaturated with dentists.

As for specializing, programs tend to favor students from research-based schools and NYU would've provided more specialty opportunities than Nova. There's also a stigma against relatively newer schools and understandably so as they are still developing the program.

lol, hes obviously kidding guys to get a rise out of everyone.

 

[dl9006]

Oh, did you conduct a scientific research study to make that claim?

In fact, a doctor's education and training is a big factor in how I choose my doctors. Last thing I want is some uneducated incompetent fool who barely got into some cheesy dental/med school to be diagnosing and treating me.

go shadow a bit more and come back once you're in school.

in my experience shadowing, no one asked the dr where he went

 

[dmd11perio14]

The frustrating thing I would see with a degree from Nova is that unless you're practicing in southern Florida, most people/patients never heard of it and may automatically, and perhaps incorrectly, assume that it's a cheesy no-name school.

We can all agree that an NYU degree on your wall in your practice will provide prestige and validity and legitimacy to your education and training in the eyes of your patients, who ultimately provide you with your livelihood.

And what happens if you want to settle down on the west coast after dental school? What happens when you apply for an Associate position 3000+ miles away? When all those hiring doctors out there have USC/UCLA/UofP/UCSF degrees, will they provide the Nova grad an equal chance as they would with a NYU grad? I'm not so sure they would. And it's not like the Nova grad can easily find a job in Florida which is supersaturated with dentists.

As for specializing, programs tend to favor students from research-based schools and NYU would've provided more specialty opportunities than Nova. There's also a stigma against relatively newer schools and understandably so as they are still developing the program.

Your commentary is extremely ignorant! how can you make such blatant statements without being informed properly. a professional should not be so narrow minded. I graduated from nova and i got interview at every specialty program i applied to and was accepted, including NYU! interesting that such an impressive school like NYU would take all these idiots graduating from such an "inadequate" school like Nova. and lastly, all the other schools i interviewed at for my specialty had nothing but praises to share with me about how impressed they were with the Nova grad they had worked with. Interesting?

 

[larapredent]

No way. $700-$900 gets a 2-3 bedroom in NYC? That would get you a closet maybe.

I second that!!!

 

[znny19]

I second that!!!

i think he means per person... serious lack of reading comprehension.

 

[DentalDoge]

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.