Description of Traditional Medical Student

[agotado]

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Hello everyone,

I have been reading a lot about the definition of URM and non-traditional medical school applicants but the first question that comes to my mind is:

How do YOU define a "traditional" or "over-represented" medical school student and how is this definition changing?

I guess I am not looking for a "technical" definition but more of your "opinion".

It's like asking "What kind of person do you think of when someone says Medical Student?"

I guess this could be mine:

White
Has a family member who is a physician.
Not first generation to go to college.
Family has sufficient economic resources.
Committed to helping others.



This would really help me. Thanks everyone.

Eriberto

 

[League54]

Non-traditional usually means time off between undergrad and M1 (or high school and college), so traditional would most likely mean going straight from high school, to undergrad, applying junior year, and matriculating the fall following graduation from a four-year institution.

 

[agotado]

Thanks,

I edit my question for clarification. Sorry.

 

[drizzt3117]

non-URM applicants are ones that are not-african american, mexican/puerto rican, native american, and in some cases, SE Asian, IIRC.

 

[Perrotfish]

Traditonal: HS to college, Premed in college, and then directly to medical school (maybe with one year off to find themselves or somesuch nonsense). If you had a serious break between HS and college or between college and medical school, or if you finished college before begining your premed requirements, you are a non-trad.

 

[AggieSean]

The traditional medical student?
Three words: hard working, alpha male, jackhammer. Merciless. Insatiable.

 

[beauregard]

The traditional medical student?
Three words: hard working, alpha male, jackhammer. Merciless. Insatiable.

That's more than three words.

 

[speeter]

The traditional medical student?
Three words: hard working, alpha male, jackhammer. Merciless. Insatiable.

[hijack]I love your signature AggieSean. You ever read any of Coulter's books? [/hijack]

 

[AggieSean]

That's more than three words.

Damm. Guess it's dental school for me.

 

[AggieSean]

[hijack]I love your signature AggieSean. You ever read any of Coulter's books? [/hijack]

Yeah, I read Treason and am reading Slander. I haven't gotten to "How to talk to..." or "Godless." I hear she has a new one out. She's an amazing writer, and a funny one at that.

 

[scowdeva]

The traditional medical student?
Three words: hard working, alpha male, jackhammer. Merciless. Insatiable.

Well, I appreciated the Dwight Shrute shout-out...definitely use that in your interviews!

 

[Vera18]

Yeah, I read Treason and am reading Slander. I haven't gotten to "How to talk to..." or "Godless." I hear she has a new one out. She's an amazing writer, and a funny one at that.

I can't stand Ann Coulter; I have no respect for her as an author. (or as a human being). 👎

 

[Sir Buckethead]

Politics aside, I think we can all agree that anyone who is an Office fan is a good egg.

Stay away, original UK version cultists.

 

[Jolie South]

I can't stand Ann Coulter; I have no respect for her as an author. (or as a human being). 👎

I think the only reason she gets any play is because she's attractive. 😎

 

[TheLesPaul]

Attractive? Really? I mean...she's not even heroin-chic...

 

[speeter]

Yeah, I read Treason and am reading Slander. I haven't gotten to "How to talk to..." or "Godless." I hear she has a new one out. She's an amazing writer, and a funny one at that.

You will love Godless. It was my favorite one yet.

 

[arthurracoon223]

The traditional medical student?
Three words: hard working, alpha male, jackhammer. Merciless. Insatiable.

Do you have 3 resumes as well? I cant wait to see the personal trivia one

😀

 

[Newsom]

Attractive? Really? I mean...she's not even heroin-chic...

Does she remind anyone else of a living skeleton? Its almost as if you can tell she's evil. . .

 

[Food]

It is pretty disturbing to see people who aspire to be doctors consider someone like Ann Coulter funny or a productive member of society at all. For people who are supposed to be dedicated to helping those in need or suffering, you seem to be unusually impressed by a woman who has preached nothing but hate and destruction of innocent people.

if she was remotely attractive, I'd understand, but she isn't even that. Adam's apple aside, there's a very foul air about her, and I think anyone with a touch of reasonable taste would not want to bed her.

 

[Mr hawkings]

And there goes the thread.

 

[Rotinaj]

I know that a lot of the low-rung med students are awfully pretentious. I was talking to a freshman in college once who was saying that he already knew he wanted to do Internal Medicine. I was thinking to myself, "Do you even know what that specialty entails vs others?" I assume he was going off of what he'd seen on House and Scrubs 😛.

 

[Luxian]

Hello everyone,

I have been reading a lot about the definition of URM and non-traditional medical school applicants but the first question that comes to my mind is:

How do YOU define a "traditional" or "over-represented" medical school student and how is this definition changing?

I was talking a lot about this with my friend who, as a med student, interviewed a lot of applicants.

The "typical" applicant is a 3.8 GPA, 30+ MCAT, bio major who's done a little volunteering and has "always wanted to be a doctor". Anything you can do to fulfill the <i>requirements</i> but make yourself stand out from that cookie-cutter image will help.

That is, doing Peace Corps or Teach for America shows more about your dedication to service than a few hours a week shadowing doctors. Having ECs <i>outside</i> of medicine shows not only that you can handle the courseload with time to spare, but that you are an interesting person and not just a doctor-bot.

There's no simple solution, but the real trick is not just fulfilling requirements, it's standing out as a person!

 

[Jolie South]

It is pretty disturbing to see people who aspire to be doctors consider someone like Ann Coulter funny or a productive member of society at all. For people who are supposed to be dedicated to helping those in need or suffering, you seem to be unusually impressed by a woman who has preached nothing but hate and destruction of innocent people.

if she was remotely attractive, I'd understand, but she isn't even that. Adam's apple aside, there's a very foul air about her, and I think anyone with a touch of reasonable taste would not want to bed her.

She's not attractive compared to celebrities/models, but in the world of politics, she's like the only one that's NOT ugly.

 

[E lutris]

She's not attractive compared to celebrities/models, but in the world of politics, she's like the only one that's NOT ugly.

unless we start talking about boys, in which case...mmmmm...Anderson Cooper. He looks so good in 'Planet in Peril'; makes me want to go save the earth.

Also, I went to see Ann Coulter speak when she came to my university a year or so ago, you know, 'know thy enemy'.

WELL. I pretty much vomited. People were asking her about evolution and she kept screaming "SHOW ME THE FOSSILS". I wanted to take my Campbell bio book out of my backpack and throw it at her.

 

[Concubine]

I know who she is, and what she stands for, but that's about it. I think I've heard her speak a few times on the radio. I think most of her ideas represent the view of mainstream conservative America. She has the appeal of saying exactly what many conservatives think. However, I think most of her ideas are excessive and extreme (and I'm conservative on many issues).

 

[TheLesPaul]

You can't 1) think most of her ideas represent mainstream conservatism, and 2) think most of her ideas are excessive and extreme.

Pick one.

 

[Rotinaj]

Well, this thread has been hijacked... Political pundants like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Al Franken, Michael Moore, etc... they're job is to piss people off with outrageous claims so that people all keep buying books. To actually consider the propaganda that they spew as anything but skewed is, well, dumb. The same is true with philosophy in general: pure idealism is only effective in an ideal world. The real world requires compromise.

 

[Candlestick Man]

I think anyone with a touch of reasonable taste would not want to bed her

hmm. interesting wording.

Anyway, I was not pre-med (but happened to take the pre-reqs) and will be three years out of UG by next August, but still would hesitate to call myself non-traditional. I would reserve that for those who began a full-fledged career, such as business, law, or even nursing. Like it or not, I probably have more in common with the prototypical pre-med student...