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Not to steal wind from the Glasgow thread, but if any one is interested in applying to the University of Edinburgh, feel free to ask me questions. I just started the graduate entry programme and all the difficulties and nitty gritty details are still fresh in my mind.

ps. I'm LOVING it here! most of the Glasgow things also apply here. uber cool place to learn. 😀
 
Not to steal wind from the Glasgow thread, but if any one is interested in applying to the University of Edinburgh, feel free to ask me questions. I just started the graduate entry programme and all the difficulties and nitty gritty details are still fresh in my mind.

ps. I'm LOVING it here! most of the Glasgow things also apply here. uber cool place to learn. 😀


All hail the Royal Dick! 😀
 
I thought this was going to be a story about a rude veterinarian.
 
Yeah, kudo's to OP for an intriguing subject line!
 
Is your curriculum pass/fail or graded?

What sort of undergrad experience did you have to get into the graduate entry program?
 
How different is the weather there from what you got used to in Florida? 😀

It's radically different. When I arrived, it was like my winter weather! And the days were super long. Now the days are starting to get short really fast, and it's about Gainesville winter night cold, but all day. The rain gets a little annoying. It'll be bright out, but raining at the same time. On and off some days, just at night others. But you get used to it, and learn to carry an umbrella (or always wear a hoodie!).
 
Is your curriculum pass/fail or graded?

What sort of undergrad experience did you have to get into the graduate entry program?


The work is all graded. However.... we only have exams at the end of the semester. For our immunology course we have a paper due next week (and omg, i haven't done any of it!!) that counts towards the final grade. And for public health, we have stuff due every year, and it's the total at the end of the (three year?) course that determines if we need to sit the test.
But... from the rumbles that I've been hearing the curriculum is changing for next years GEPs. School is very into constantly improving the curriculum. Hopefully the AVMA approves of the changes and facilities, and re-accredits the school.


The GEP requires that you have a relevant degree such as Animal Science/Biology, Biology, Microbiology. One guy in my class has a masters in Pharmacology. I do know one girl in the regular programme with an Animal Science degree. I think good grades has a lot to do with it. I also had a decent amoutn of farm and vet experience, but that in no way is required.
 
Wow, totally forgot to update! The AVMA committee came and went. They were very pleased with the school and the plans for future development. yay!

If only my future development were so promising... finals on Wed and Friday and I feel so unprepared! Honestly, 54% of our grade for the year in Animal Body will be determined over the course of two days. How is that for pressure?
 
I just got my letter of acceptance into the GEP at Edinburgh, and I was wondering what classes were like and how the campus is, and well anything else you could tell me! I'm so excited!
 
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I just got my letter of acceptance into the GEP at Edinburgh, and I was wondering what classes were like and how the campus is, and well anything else you could tell me! I'm so excited!

YAY!!!! Congrats!!! I've got to keep this answer short. Finals start tomorrow and I'm still studying! :scared:
The school is awesome, the classes are awesome, the campus is kinda spread out, Easter Bush is ha-mazing and I can't wait for them to finish the new buildings and transfer the whole vet school out there. As GEP, they cram a sh$%-load of info down your throat the first year, but once you enter the third year (our second) I hear it gets a whole lot easier. Also, they seem to change the GEP every year so I am not sure what it will be like for you. We had all of anatomy in five weeks. Well, more like 4 weeks. It was intense. This semester didn't feel intense until finals. And next semester makes me want to cry. SOOOO worth it and all the hassels of moving abroad. And the city is super super cool.
I'll try to post more info about the school Friday after exams. PM if you have any specific questions as you go through the process of arrival (should you choose to come). There are a lot of things that the school does not tell you that could make your life a whole lot easier.
 
Hey! I am also a Dick vet (and a friend of Annaig), and I'm also game for answering any questions and the like.

Our last exam is tomorrow, then it's Christmas break! Anyway, time to study!

p.s. Edinburgh is AMAZING. Definitely a great place to live and study, and the school is great!
 
yay! ma friend! hurrah that we finished exams!!!! 😀
 
I still haven't heard from U of Edinburgh and I am wondering if you guys think I still have a chance of getting in?? Ppl received their acceptances in November and I'm getting worried 🙁
 
I just got my acceptance package from U. of Edinburgh ( the five year program) yesterday and sent out my final transcript to them today (hopefully it gets there without a hitch). I am definitely excited about the prospect of going to such a prestigious school with such a rich history of academic background. I am still waiting to hear if Missouri accepted me, but for me the pressure is off! now!! :laugh:
 
You might want to contact the school to see what is up. As much as I love the school, organization is not one of their top skills, lol.
 
I sent my final transcript yesterday, so I don't expect it to get to the school for about a week, but I will shoot an email to the school to see if they get it and then phone the school if email does not work!
 
anyone going to the reception for accepted students on February 6 in New York?😛
 
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Sure am, I shot an email to Yvonne on Wednesday, but she was not at the office, but I am sure she will give me notice of my email by Monday
 
I do have one major question, what is the major differences between the 4 year graduate program and the five year undergrad program at Edinburgh. I got accepted to the five year undergrad program, so I have no idea if I have to repeat certain courses that I already did at my college? I know someone posted about their first year really being mostly review of material already known before getting into the real nitty gritty.
 
Wow, am I an idiot. I looked at my acceptance letter and it was the 4 year GED program, my bad
 
I do have one major question, what is the major differences between the 4 year graduate program and the five year undergrad program at Edinburgh. I got accepted to the five year undergrad program, so I have no idea if I have to repeat certain courses that I already did at my college? I know someone posted about their first year really being mostly review of material already known before getting into the real nitty gritty.


Congrats on getting into the four year programme! It's really hard, but loads of fun. And you save yourself a year.

As to your question, the main difference between GEP and the 5 yr is that GEP combines years one and two. So your second year of the programme is technically year 3 (and you'll join the students that were in 2nd year the year you began). So make nice with the second years as much as possible cuz you'll be one of them soon enough.

5 year programme

yr 1: Professional studies 1 (personal, interpersonal, and communication skills, ethics and the vet in society, clinical skills)
Body systems 1 (from cell to body structure, pathobiology, systems biology and pathobiology, integration of structure and function)
Animal Health, Welfare and Safety [aka Animal Husbandry] (VPH, animal behaviour and welfare, cattle, poultry, sheep, pigs, animal breeding, cats and dogs, horses)

yr 2: Professional Studies 2 (same as above)
Body systems 2 (nervous system, metabolism, digestion, reproduction, large animal surface and topographical anatomy [aka LASTA])
Infection and Immunity [aka I&I] (immunology, inflammation, parasitology, bacteriology, virology)
VPH 2 (epidemiology)
Animal Husbandry 2 (Horses, Nutrition, Dogs and Cats)
Large Animal Practical Clinical course

and then you enter year 3


GEP (4 year programme)

The Animal Body (anatomy, cell bio, urinary system, endocrine system, cardiorespiratory system, digestive system, repro, nervous, LASTA)
Introductory Pathology And Infectious Disease (same as I&I)
Animal Husbandry (Cattle, Breeding and Genetics, other farmed animals, sheep, poultry, pigs, small animals, animal behavour & welfare, horses, nutrition, dogs and cats)
Population Medicine and VPH (VPH, epidemiology, statistics)
Professional Studies (same as yr 1 and 2)

then you enter year 3 with the second years

A HUGE difference is that you are taught all of the yr1 and 2 stuff, but you are not taught all of the GEP stuff. We had to review cell bio, small animals, animal behaviour & welfare, and statistics on our own time. You need to be highly motivated to study in order to do well in GEP. Hopefully they'll change the programme timeline next year so that they teach you more of the subjects, and set it up in blocks so you aren't getting 6 subjects at a time.
Also, you have to do 12 weeks of EMS in one year instead of 2 years (but you get exemption for previous work and can do EMS the summer before beginning school).
 
Not to steal wind from the Glasgow thread, but if any one is interested in applying to the University of Edinburgh, feel free to ask me questions. I just started the graduate entry programme and all the difficulties and nitty gritty details are still fresh in my mind.

ps. I'm LOVING it here! most of the Glasgow things also apply here. uber cool place to learn. 😀

Hie

I'm left with a year 2 complete my honours in wildlife management and have always had a dream to get into THE ROYAL DICK VET SCHOOL,but i'm wondering if I'll have a competitive chance.I'm currently an intern in South Africa at a Biobank/wildlife vet clinic/research centre,and we work very intimately with the national zoo.I have also worked @ a vet clinic as an unqualified vet assistant.
 
Not to steal wind from the Glasgow thread, but if any one is interested in applying to the University of Edinburgh, feel free to ask me questions. I just started the graduate entry programme and all the difficulties and nitty gritty details are still fresh in my mind.

ps. I'm LOVING it here! most of the Glasgow things also apply here. uber cool place to learn. 😀


and also wuld like to know what are the chances on getting a full scholarship
 
Hi Mandisa,

Experience wise it sounds like you have an edge on most of the students that get into the school. Academically it's really hard to tell if someone is competitive since the school takes students from all over and has different standards for different areas and programmes. A lot of admission questions are answered here, but if you want a better idea of how you stand you might want to contact the admissions office at [email protected]

In regards to scholarship, there aren't any. Most students are on their own coina or pulled loans. You can find out more about the university's financial stuff here.
 
Hey annaig,
Completely random question for you. I am taking Gaelic as an elective this semester and I really want to visit Ireland at some point (just on my list of things to do before I die). If I end up taking my offer from Edinburgh, I would really hope to do some EMS or clinical EMS in Ireland. Have any of your classmates done that? Have any of them done clinical stuff at UCD over breaks or anything? I would think Edinburgh's proximity to Ireland would make it relatively easy, and I know you're allowed to do some EMS abroad...
 
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Hey, I think that lots of people do EMS abroad. Several of my Irish classmates went home to do EMS over the winter holiday. The only non-clinical EMS that we are required to do in the UK is 1 week of dairy and 1 week of lambing. I don't really know much about clinical EMS other than that we have to do 26 weeks. And I think we are allowed to do externships at other vet schools. Trips so South Africa and Asia are very popular in the programme.
 
thanks Annaig, EMS abroad sounds like so much fun. I have another question about EMS though: when you go on these placements, do you stay in accommodation at the establishment? Or do you have to find your own and pay for it yourself? It would seem a little unfair if they expected you to pay for accommodation separately since it's a requirement for school...I couldn't find anything about it in the brochure they sent me. What about food and stuff while you're there? Are the farmers usually friendly and helpful in that way?
 
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thanks Annaig, EMS abroad sounds like so much fun. I have another question about EMS though: when you go on these placements, do you stay in accommodation at the establishment? Or do you have to find your own and pay for it yourself? It would seem a little unfair if they expected you to pay for accommodation separately since it's a requirement for school...I couldn't find anything about it in the brochure they sent me. What about food and stuff while you're there? Are the farmers usually friendly and helpful in that way?

It's up to the farmer. The family that my friend and I stayed with over the winter holiday were lovely. They let us stay in their cottage, and when the heating broke they let us stay in the farm house. The wife cooked us dinner every night and she bought us groceries. My friend and I went to the convenience store a few times to pick things up, but they took great care of us. We had to pay for our own train tickets though. Some people get paid for EMS if they're lucky. Lambing almost always pays. On the other hand, one pig farmer that I spoke with did not have space for us, and would not pick us up from the nearest town. But there are plenty of farmers listed in the EMS placement folders, and you can find some people in the yellow pages or by word of mouth.
 
heya,

i was accepted into the 5 year program, but, based on my graduate school grades would really like to petition for entry into the 4 year program. Do you know if this is possible? Also could anyone tell me the pros/cons of ediburough vs the RVC in London. Thanks
 
heya,

i was accepted into the 5 year program, but, based on my graduate school grades would really like to petition for entry into the 4 year program. Do you know if this is possible? Also could anyone tell me the pros/cons of ediburough vs the RVC in London. Thanks

I have no clue. Best if you just contact the school and see what they have to say. Good luck!
 
hey Dick vet people,

I'm a junior right now, studying abroad in Edinburgh. I absolutely love it here, and am seriously considering applying to Dick Vet (and Glasgow) for vet school. I've heard alot about competition for American vet schools (that hundreds/thousands hours worth of experience are needed), but I was wondering what it takes to be competitive for the Scottish schools. To this point, I have a solid GPA, most of the pre-reqs completed, some research in a zoo, and a ton of traditional bench research(genetics). I guess i'm just a bit unsure of what it takes for an American college grad to get into these schools, considering the different nature of their selection process.

Also, how many letters of recommendation are needeD?

thanks
 
Hey Jake, I believe your track record so far in terms of getting into a school in Scotland seems pretty good right now. I know I had a 3.85 GPA and had about 700 hours of vet experience (all volunteer) and 1000's of hours of related animal experience (I do rescue work at home) and I got into the 4 year program at Edinburgh without any research at all. A big plus for Scotland vet schools is that they do not require you to take the awful General GRE which American Schools require. Speaking of American vet schools, it is hard to say because each school is a bit different in what they want from a potential vet student. You should give a call to the American schools that YOU WANT TO GO TO. I got an interview at Missouri with my track record, and my GRE score isn't that great compared to others. It is tough to get into an American vet school, but just keep your hopes up and even if you don't get in the US and get in Scotland, well.....how bad can that really be since both schools are AVMA accredited?!😛
 
Oh and recommendations, I had five of them (VMCAS application allows five LOR). I had three letters from vets and two from faculty/staff of my undergraduate college.
 
hey Dick vet people,

I'm a junior right now, studying abroad in Edinburgh. I absolutely love it here, and am seriously considering applying to Dick Vet (and Glasgow) for vet school. I've heard alot about competition for American vet schools (that hundreds/thousands hours worth of experience are needed), but I was wondering what it takes to be competitive for the Scottish schools. To this point, I have a solid GPA, most of the pre-reqs completed, some research in a zoo, and a ton of traditional bench research(genetics). I guess i'm just a bit unsure of what it takes for an American college grad to get into these schools, considering the different nature of their selection process.

Also, how many letters of recommendation are needeD?

thanks

hey! i posted a link to the Dick Vet requirements for North American students a few posts up. From those you can also gain access to requirements for UK students, etc. They also have info posted on the VMCAS website. 🙂
 
Thanks for the responses- very helpful. I guess I'm mainly lacking in experience with a vet, but hopefully I can find someone that'll let me hang around for the summer. Although that leads me to my next question. Do people typically apply the summer between junior and senior year. I know the application comes out in may/june, but I definitely will not have had enough/any vet experience by that time. Any ideas as to whether its a big disadvantage to wait until august/september-ish to apply?

It's weird, because somewhere in the back of my mind I've always known I wanted to go to vet school (it was my "dream job" a while back, yet its taken me until now to do anything about it). Funny how study abroad makes you realize you've gotta follow your instincts.
 
It may seem like a plus to hand in an application early, but not always the case. In your scenario, I would work on your application by putting all your grades and start working on your personal statement, but do not finish it yet until you could write something about some of your experience working with or volunteering with a vet (as long as you see what a vet is doing) then you should be golden. I would submit a VMCAS application by the end of August or early September if I was in your shoes just to accumulate the vet experience and even put in still continuing to show the vet schools you are still pursuing vet medicine. The deadline for American Schools is October 1st at midnight, so don't submit your application right before that time😱. Since you are a junior, it would not hurt to put in an application (tough to get into a vet school on first shot, but I did it with Edinburgh [still waiting with Missouri]). You will start hearing back from schools by January and they will ask for your transcripts for the fall and evetually spring of senior year if you get an interview, but you must take your GRE as well for American Schools!
 
I will be a first year GEP Vet student from North America this next year. Where do most first year North American students live? My concern is that I don't really want catered, but most of the self-catered seem to share a restroom between 4-6 people... been there, done that, and don't wanna do it again... I do however want to be somewhere that I can mingle with other vet students that are from the UK and North America. What are my options?
 
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Well, nearly all of the GEP stayed in Pollock Halls during the 5 week summer term. Food isn't the best, but it gives you a chance to bond with everyone and get used to the city.
About half of us moved into dorms, and the other half found flats or houses around the city. I'm currently living in dorms that are 5 minutes away from Summerhall. I live with three other girls. We have a WC, and shower room with a toilet, and a kitchen/lounge. It would not have been a bad experience if I didn't end up with noisy potheads living upstairs. Tomorrow (hopefully) I get to start moving into my new flat, which is just down the street.
To be honest, people live EVERYWHERE. The most popular areas seem to be in the south area of the city, but I know one girl who takes the train in and several who have to take the bus in from south of the city. The further from the city you are, the cheaper the rent, but then you have a longer travel time. Newington and Sciennes is convenient for school. Around the Meadows is nice, and so is Marchmont.
It's really hard to describe these areas over the internet, and you won't get a feel for the distance until you have been here for a few weeks. I would not stress about finding housing in five weeks since people are always putting flats for let. Gumtree is a great site for flat hunting. A lot of GEPs will be here in August to greet you guys, and mentors will be assigned soon!! YAY! I'm in the process of setting up a little guide for flat hunting and one for the dorms. I'd like to have people take pics of their flats/dorms and write a little bit about their experience. I'll send it out to all the mentors when the time comes so they can give it to you guys.
 
good news everyone! just got an email saying that mentees/mentors will be assigned this week. If all goes well, you will be hearing from us by the end of the month/beginning of April. Naturally, this coincides with the time that we are off lambing, so communications might be spotty until the end of April.
 
Just bumping up this thread to see if anyone is definitely going to Edinburgh? I am still waiting on 1 more school, but will most likely be starting the 4 year program in August.
 
Annaig- Could you explain EMS a little bit more to me? Does EMS always have to be completed over breaks? I am concerned bc I would want to visit my family and boyfriend and come back to the states for most of my breaks, since I will be so far as it is 🙁 While I like the idea of traveling and getting experience while also getting EMS credit, I think that it would be hard to sacrifice spending time with my family. Any thoughts? What have you done to complete your EMS requirements? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 🙂
 
Annaig- Could you explain EMS a little bit more to me? Does EMS always have to be completed over breaks? I am concerned bc I would want to visit my family and boyfriend and come back to the states for most of my breaks, since I will be so far as it is 🙁 While I like the idea of traveling and getting experience while also getting EMS credit, I think that it would be hard to sacrifice spending time with my family. Any thoughts? What have you done to complete your EMS requirements? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 🙂

Breaks is pretty much the only time to do EMS unless you are wanting to cut school for it (not a good idea). Also, it specifically states in the EMS pages that we are supposed to do them over break. "All first and second year students are required to gain twelve weeks animal husbandry Extra-mural experience during the vacations in first and second year before sitting the Second ..."

Luckily, the new rule is that you only need to do 1 week of lambing and 1 week of dairy in the UK. And overseas students are allowed up to 6 weeks of exemption/EMS before starting school. Since I worked at a riding camp one summer and did a lot of equine work while in school, I was able get my two equine weeks exempted. I also got one week of cat/dog (I could have gotten more but I wanted to save my 'other' weeks for working with exotics) since I did kennels a lot when I was working in a SA clinic last year.

My plan for this summer is to spend June in the UK so I can do chickens and pigs (and maybe small mammal) and go home for July to do my week of exotics. I'm coming back in August since I am not sure if I have to resit exams yet and there was a great deal for flights online which I had to use right away. For most people, flying home is too expensive to do it more than once a year.

Since you seem keen on spending holidays at home what I suggest is use this summer write up your exemption forms and start EMS. I am pretty sure that GEPs are allowed to do EMS before hand. You need 2 weeks cattle, sheep, equine, and free choice each (remember that 1 week of dairy and 1 week of lambing in the UK is required); and 1 week of poultry, pig, cat/dog, and small mammal. You can email Kay if you have any questions, she's really nice. [email protected]

You won't be able to access EEVEC for the forms and stuff until June, but you should be getting info through snail mail about all of this. Good luck, and don't forget to start your VISA application early!! 🙂
 
Hey annaig. Well its official, I will be attending the University of Edinburgh GEP program. 😍 Would you be able to send me a link to your current schedule or could you post when you have your first year schedule of exams and breaks? I am planning a visit in late April to see the school with my family and find a flat for the coming year. Perhaps we could exchange e mail addresses? I am sure I will have lots of questions.
Thanks.
 
i have a friend who geos to school out there in edinburgh....do u guys know Katie wu??? 😛
 
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