Difference between Undergrad/Grad Post Bac Programs?

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I see this a lot when im looking at profiles of post bacc schools.

For example, http://services.aamc.org/postbac/Vi...iomedical Sciences&PROG_INST=Barry University

what does Graduate mean as opposed to Undergrad?

In the U.S., "undergraduate" refers to usually a four-year degree program leading to either a Bachelor of Arts (BA) or Bachelor of Science (BS) degree.

"Graduate" refers to a degree program that is completed after one has attained a Bachelor's degree. These include regular Master degree programs like the one indicated by your link.

Post-bac simply refers to classes taken after one has received his/her Bachelor's degree. If one is looking to raise a low undergrad GPA or was not pre-med while in college, they would take post-bac classes at the undergraduate level. If one has a decent undergrad GPA and would like to show that they can handle advanced coursework and/or have a backup plan in place in case things don't work out with med school, then he/she would enroll in a Master's degree program.
 
To add on to that,

undergraduate programs deal with a lower level of classes generally at the 200, 300 and sometimes 400 level (ie biology 201). Graduate programs deal with 500-level courses and above (ie biochemistry 605).

Generally on SDN when people say post-bac they mean Ugrad-level
SMP refers to grad-level.
 
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Both of the above replies are inadequate in describing the differences between grad, undergrad, and post-bacc as defined by AAMC. I would refrain from using course numbers as they are not standardized among the thousands upon thousands of schools in the US. What Instatewaiter described in terms of lower level classes would be graduate school (200-level), law school (300-level), and medical school (400-level) courses respectively at UC Davis. Clearly not the same.

Anyway, this is what these classes mean:

1) Undergraduate: For the most part, these are classes that are normally taken for a bachelors degree (e.g., undergrad degree).

2) Graduate: For the most part, these classes are normally taken by graduate students (e.g., masters and PhD students). HOWEVER, professional school courses also fall into this category. This includes med school courses.
Therefore if you were PhD student in Chemistry, and you take Physical Organic Chemistry--that is a grad level course. If you take Clinical Pharmacology through a med school, it will also be considered as graduate level. It is true that you do this after receiving your undergrad degree, but microgin's definition can also be confused with post-bacc.

3) Post-bacc: Although the OP did not include this, i believe it would be good to talk about this. Post-bacc, as defined by AAMC, are any UNDERGRADUATE level classes taken after receiving your bachelors degree. This includes if you do a 2nd, 3rd...etc bachelors degree. This also includes taking undergrad level classes while doing a masters or PhD.

In the grand scheme of things, when you apply to med school, these are seperated out into undergrad GPA, overall undergrad GPA (undergrad GPA + post-bacc GPA), and graduate GPA. So thats why its important to know what the differences are.

Therefore, when they say "graduate credit" (like in the program in the link), then that means you are taking graduate level classes as defined by #2, and thus you will be adding to only your graduate GPA. If it is aimed at boosting your undergrad GPA, then they will have classes that give you "undergraduate credit" which would include post-bacc. Hope that clears things up. Good luck!
 
Great Post!!

So, when I am applying for 'graduate level' programs, I would be taking more advanced level science courses (that still satisfy the pre-med reqs?)
 
Great Post!!

So, when I am applying for 'graduate level' programs, I would be taking more advanced level science courses (that still satisfy the pre-med reqs?)

Also, if i wanted to go to a post bacc to simply boost my GPA for when i apply to med school, what option is preferrable?
 
SBK said:
So, when I am applying for 'graduate level' programs, I would be taking more advanced level science courses (that still satisfy the pre-med reqs?)

No, this is not correct. If you have yet to take the four pre-req classes required for med school admissions (General Biology, General Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, and Physics), these must be taken at the undergraduate level. Keep in mind that Master's degree programs or other graduate programs for that matter are intended as advanced study for those who have either a Science-based Bachelor's degree, or have at the very least some background (i.e. four pre-reqs and some upper-level undergrad courses) in the sciences.

Also, if i wanted to go to a post bacc to simply boost my GPA for when i apply to med school, what option is preferrable?

Med schools are predominantly concerned with your undergraduate GPA as this is the basis upon all pre-meds can be judged (not every pre-med has a graduate degree). So in this case, you would be more interested in taking upper-level courses (biochemistry, physiology, etc) at the undergraduate level once you have completed your pre-reqs.
 
Thanks for your help!!

So when i go to this website, http://services.aamc.org/postbac/

I should filter my search for undergraduates? (even though i will have graduated?)
 
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