DO discrimination

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I never said a pod was going to perform a heart surgery, however I am suggesting a pod is the best resource in F/A health - including surgery. Again, I don't think you've read what ive said very carefully.

I have read what you wrote. What you have written is coming from an uninformed place. Good luck with your goals.

For everyone else:

MDs and DOs are physicians

DPMs are, well, they're DPMs

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I have read what you wrote. What you have written is coming from an uninformed place. Good luck with your goals.

For everyone else:

MDs and DOs are physicians

DPMs are, well, they're DPMs

Right... Well, I guess I'll pull the DO student response here: "say what you want, but in ten years when I'm sitting at my desk in private practice making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as a surgeon, you can call me whatever you want"

 

[deleted103644]

Right... Well, I guess I'll pull the DO student response here: "say what you want, but in ten years when I'm sitting at my desk in private practice making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as a surgeon, you can call me whatever you want"

Haha, yeah, there's a degree of irony here.

 

[Ost3oclast]

Still tryin to figure out why there is so much hate among people in this thread. Who is better at F/A? Well as long as either gets the job done correctly....who cares? This is coming from somebody who (god forbid mention this on sdn) is contemplating ortho. The ortho I shadow gets along great with our DPM....granted there is a bit of competition between the two but hey...its life.

Arguing on the internet is stupid man.....im sure if this thread was real life fists would be flying right now....

 

[HalfListic]

Still tryin to figure out why there is so much hate among people in this thread. Who is better at F/A? Well as long as either gets the job done correctly....who cares? This is coming from somebody who (god forbid mention this on sdn) is contemplating ortho. The ortho I shadow gets along great with our DPM....granted there is a bit of competition between the two but hey...its life.

Arguing on the internet is stupid man.....im sure if this thread was real life fists would be flying right now....

Actually..with the three or four winners that have continued this threads arguments, I imagine it more as a slap fight with some hair pulling.

 

[sylvanthus]

Sounds hot.

 

[Ost3oclast]

Actually..with the three or four winners that have continued this threads arguments, I imagine it more as a slap fight with some hair pulling.

Hahaha used to see that crap all the time in my bartending days....it usually turned into somebody pulling a weapon eventually though....

 

[SpecterGT260]

That's irrelevant. The point remains that just because ANY surgery might cost more than a podiatry surgery doesn't mean that that surgeon is better, regardless of specialty.

Also: you never mentioned orthos, so......

This really only demonstrates your inability to track a conversation. From here on out whenever I want to throw you off and win an argument with you I will just jingle my keys in front of you 😛

 

[SpecterGT260]

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Arguing on the internet is stupid man.....im sure if this thread was real life fists would be flying right now....

So what does it say about the guy who took the time to come in and make the holier than thou post? 😉

 

[DavetheMD]

DO's generally take COMLEX + USMLE and courses for OMT + the standard course load of an MD. Where's the badge of shame there?

 

[SpecterGT260]

DO's generally take COMLEX + USMLE and courses for OMT + the standard course load of an MD. Where's the badge of shame there?

Where are the posts that say it is shameful to be DO? 🙄

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Where are the posts that say it is shameful to be DO? 🙄

Quite true.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

This really only demonstrates your inability to track a conversation. From here on out whenever I want to throw you off and win an argument with you I will just jingle my keys in front of you 😛

I tracked the argument just fine, but I needed to sleep, so i had to throw out something childish to hold down the fort until morning. Im actually really surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet. We've been talking about DPMs for the last so many posts which is way off topic.

Anyways, DPMs rock, and I don't have a problem with DOs.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Still tryin to figure out why there is so much hate among people in this thread. Who is better at F/A? Well as long as either gets the job done correctly....who cares? This is coming from somebody who (god forbid mention this on sdn) is contemplating ortho. The ortho I shadow gets along great with our DPM....granted there is a bit of competition between the two but hey...its life.

Arguing on the internet is stupid man.....im sure if this thread was real life fists would be flying right now....

Dude, trolls don't fight....

 

[SpecterGT260]

I tracked the argument just fine, but I needed to sleep, so i had to throw out something childish to hold down the fort until morning. Im actually really surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet. We've been talking about DPMs for the last so many posts which is way off topic.

Anyways, DPMs rock, and I don't have a problem with DOs.

I hope you can read back and notice all the times that we've said DPMs are necessary. It is only certain claims of scope that were called into question

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I hope you can read back and notice all the times that we've said DPMs are necessary. It is only certain claims of scope that were called into question

Necessary, but bad at their job (or rather not as good). Yeah dude, I can read. No worries.

 

[GypsyHummus]

If a patient asks what the difference between an MD and a DO degree, what would you say?

I would say its kinda like the difference between a bachelors of science verses a bachelors of the arts degree in the same field. The bachelors of the arts degree have to take more artsy and cultural classes.

 

[SpecterGT260]

Necessary, but bad at their job (or rather not as good). Yeah dude, I can read. No worries.

See, this is the problem. You seem to think the two statements are the same
They are not. Pods are excellent at their job. Many of the things we are discussing constitute broadening of the scope of practice and are under debate in many states as we speak (at least at the lobbyist level) so by definition, the things we've said they are not as good at, are not their job to begin with 😉
Nuance, my friend..... nuance.

in the majority of cases, DPMs are not even allowed to amputate. If they are the forefront experts on the health of the human foot, shouldnt they be the ones calling the shots on whether or not a foot is salvagable? If they are the premier surgical experts on the foot, shouldn't they at least be able to handle chopping the sucker off?
http://66.99.255.20/dnn/portals/17/documents/clerkship/Scope-of-Practice-study.pdf

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

See, this is the problem. You seem to think the two statements are the same
They are not. Pods are excellent at their job. Many of the things we are discussing constitute broadening of the scope of practice and are under debate in many states as we speak (at least at the lobbyist level) so by definition, the things we've said they are not as good at, are not their job to begin with 😉
Nuance, my friend..... nuance.

Pods can do FOOT surgery in all states, it's the ANKLE that only 5 states say they cannot perform surgery on.

Pods can do LEG surgery in at least 17 states, and are chief of surgery at some hospitals..... So... it definitely is within their scope to do foot and ankle surgery....

So... no, not many states, only 5.

 

[SpecterGT260]

Pods can do FOOT surgery in all states, it's the ANKLE that only 5 states say they cannot perform surgery on.

Pods can do LEG surgery in at least 17 states, and are chief of surgery at some hospitals..... So... it definitely is within their scope to do foot and ankle surgery....

So... no, not many states, only 5.

Ill recount the info in my link there when I'm off my phone but I think you are mistaken slightly. And out of curiosity, which hospitals have DPMs as chiefs of surgery?

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Ill recount the info in my link there when I'm off my phone but I think you are mistaken slightly. And out of curiosity, which hospitals have DPMs as chiefs of surgery?

I really gotta start my AAMC practice test, but here's one example from about five years ago:

http://www.podiatrym.com/search3.cfm?id=9042

 

[SpecterGT260]

Remember that chapelle skit about the.black guy in the kkk?

 

[Wolverines83]

Wow, I never thought I'd come back to see like two more pages of posts. I can't believe this thread didn't completely devolve into a "your degree sucks" thread after all the people involved. Bravo.

 

[SpecterGT260]

Wow, I never thought I'd come back to see like two more pages of posts. I can't believe this thread didn't completely devolve into a "your degree sucks" thread after all the people involved. Bravo.

we do what we can, man . The "your degree sucks" argument is just a pissing match, but the problem arises when people interpret the statement "I disagree with you saying you are as good at a specific action as this other more highly trained person" as the same as "you are teh lamez! and you have ugly kidzz!!!"

It baffles me how these statements often get confused.

 

[Wolverines83]

we do what we can, man . The "your degree sucks" argument is just a pissing match, but the problem arises when people interpret the statement "I disagree with you saying you are as good at a specific action as this other more highly trained person" as the same as "you are teh lamez! and you have ugly kidzz!!!"

It baffles me how these statements often get confused.

lol, yep. That's the internet for ya.

Still, this thread defied the first law of SDN: Given enough time and enough posters, any thread turns into a pissing match regardless of the original topic.

 

[SpecterGT260]

lol, yep. That's the internet for ya.

Still, this thread defied the first law of SDN: Given enough time and enough posters, any thread turns into a pissing match regardless of the original topic.

obviously you are wrong and are stupid for saying so 😉

 

[Ost3oclast]

So what does it say about the guy who took the time to come in and make the holier than thou post? 😉

Hahaha funny guy. I save my arguing for real life. You know....where it actually matters.

 

[SpecterGT260]

Hahaha funny guy. I save my arguing for real life. You know....where it actually matters.

no you dont, and no it doesnt

 

[Ost3oclast]

no you dont, and no it doesnt

I dont? Please enlighten me...

 

[SpecterGT260]

I dont? Please enlighten me...

He will realize that what we are currently doing is arguing on the internet in 3..... 2..... 1.....

 

[Ost3oclast]

He will realize that what we are currently doing is arguing on the internet in 3..... 2..... 1.....

Never disagreed or agreed with anything you said. All i asked is for you to explain.

 

[SpecterGT260]

Never disagreed or agreed with anything you said. All i asked is for you to explain.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Hey specter: you are teh lamez! and you have ugly kidzz

 

[Ost3oclast]

I dont get it? Anyway... Here is the definition of an argument "in philosophy and logic, an argument is an attempt to persuade someone of something by giving reasons or evidence for accepting a particular conclusion" taken from good ol' wikipedia (not the greatest reference). But as you can clearly see now....i was not arguing.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I dont get it? Anyway... Here is the definition of an argument "in philosophy and logic, an argument is an attempt to persuade someone of something by giving reasons or evidence for accepting a particular conclusion" taken from good ol' wikipedia (not the greatest reference). But as you can clearly see now....i was not arguing.

Nope, you were, you tried persuading him you save your arguments for real life.

Also: I only have two minutes left on my AAMC break, so I gotta dash.

 

[Ost3oclast]

Nope, you were, you tried persuading him you save your arguments for real life.

Also: I only have two minutes left on my AAMC break, so I gotta dash.

Hahahaha dang you guys are too much.......

 

[SpecterGT260]

Hey specter: you are teh lamez! and you have ugly kidzz

that was hurtful and unnecessary 🙁

Nope, you were, you tried persuading him you save your arguments for real life.

Also: I only have two minutes left on my AAMC break, so I gotta dash.

lol nailed it 👍

 

[H Y F R]

Nope, you were, you tried persuading him you save your arguments for real life.

Also: I only have two minutes left on my AAMC break, so I gotta dash.

Dude, if you're taking a practice test then why in the world are you on the internet during your break?

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Dude, if you're taking a practice test then why in the world are you on the internet during your break?

What would you rather have me do?

Simulate test conditions?? bahahaha

 

[H Y F R]

What would you rather have me do?

Simulate test conditions?? bahahaha

Ummm, there's an idea.

 

[dntke1518]

You are all welcome for this completely irrelevant kitten.

Good day.

 

[Iliketoytles]

Bubbles is disappointed that this thread still lives...

 

[Ost3oclast]

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[SpecterGT260]

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Im curious who this was directed to.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Im curious who this was directed to.

Not me! I'm pre-pod. Plus, not first year.

 

[SpecterGT260]

Not me! I'm pre-pod. Plus, not first year.

but are you first year of pre-pod? because I suspect that at some point since 2010 you were pre dent 😉

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

but are you first year of pre-pod? because I suspect that at some point since 2010 you were pre dent 😉

Haha true. I wonder when i officially switched....

I probably am a first year pre-pod.... 😱

 

[Ost3oclast]

Im curious who this was directed to.

Hahaha nobody really i just love it.....

 

[HalfListic]

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Im curious who this was directed to.

Not me! I'm pre-pod. Plus, not first year.

but are you first year of pre-pod? because I suspect that at some point since 2010 you were pre dent 😉

Haha true. I wonder when i officially switched....

I probably am a first year pre-pod.... 😱

Hahaha nobody really i just love it.....

And these officially account for the intelligence and utility this thread now possesses.

Congrats everyone




Please...let her die. She's done.

 

[SpecterGT260]

And these officially account for the intelligence and utility this thread now possesses.

Congrats everyone




Please...let her die. She's done.

put yourself in that list and you have a deal 😉