Do schools disclose what they test for in drug tests?

[thefritz]

For someone on this career path the real risk isn't the potential for jail time.

Steroids lead to jail time? Nah...

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[SunsFun]

I responded to some of your points above. I am tired, and probably should have ignored this and gone to bed. So I apologize for the disjointed nature of my response.

This has reminded me never to take a position on here, however bland and benign that position might be. Back to quietly lurking.

I understand your position I am just surprised so many people here actually agree with it. You admitted that your judgement on what should be legal or illegal is subjective and that you advocate for allowing certain things while prohibiting others on a pretty random basis. To me this contradicts the idea of individual freedom. Why make something we do not understand as society or disagree with illegal even if doesn't impact anybody else besides the person making a conscious choice to use it. Why not advocate for greater public awareness or more research into potential risk? Why as a society are we so trigger-happy to condemn people who do something that we disagree with to prison even when it doesn't effect anybody else?

 

[DH410]

Sure, there are different criminal laws that apply to narcotics as compared to prescription drugs. But when you get denied a medical license do you really care which statute you violated to lose it? For someone on this career path the real risk isn't the potential for jail time.

I probably wasn't clear enough in my response: I am not advocating for the OP's actions in any way. I agree with the general sentiment of this thread, using steroids/selling them seems foolish to me, for the exact reasons you have outlined.

My questions were born of genuine curiosity based on your response to my earlier post. They were not a defense of that post, or of the OP using/buying anabolic steroids. I agree with you that my phrasing in that post was poor.

SunsFun: I believe you are addressing many separate issues as though they are a single issue. I am not commenting or agreeing with on how "anti-drug" laws are enforced, I am expressing my belief that it is appropriate to withhold access to some drugs from the public.

I don't think it is realistic or compassionate to simply say "have at it" and leave every drug available, based on the assumption that people will inform themselves before taking those drugs. I also think that leaves a great deal of room for deception or misunderstanding, leading to a lot of unnecessary harm and loss of life. Saying that an 18-year-old should be able to walk into a store and buy a selection of testosterone, HGH, and heroin if he likes seems ludicrous to me. If you are willing to sell those drugs to anyone who walks in, with no questions asked, I think that should be a crime. I may not like the way criminal charges are pressed in our country, but I certainly prefer that the person selling those drugs and the person using them be in prison rather than dead or disabled.

I hope this clarifies my position, have a good one.