Do you believe in evolution through natural selection?

[teenmachinery1]

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moving on... to life of a pre - med..

doing my lab report the night before its due...

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[Vulcan]

Lol! I know, but I had to say it. You forced me to!!

Make sure to tone it down around future patients yea?

 

[StormingWynn]

This is funny because there have been many times in human history where we could not see something. Physicists still work on things that can't completely understand nor see.

Define soul, let wikipedia do it. Everyone has an idea:
It is funny you say that belief of a soul is lazy. Albert Eienstien was likely more intelligent that you and he believed in a soul and a God. Is he now a lazy idiot or something?

Sir Isaac Newton was a religious nut-job, I'm curtain he was/is smarter then anyone on this forum, on the world for that matter.

 

[teenmachinery1]

Make sure to tone it down around future patients yea?

We'll see.. 😀

 

[vickpick]

Make sure to tone it down around future patients yea?

cool avatar.. making fruit creations was a hobby when I was little.. lol

 

[vickpick]

We'll see.. 😀

maybe u can steal greg house's job 😛

 

[teenmachinery1]

maybe u can steal greg house's job 😛

Hell yeah. 😎

 

[Vulcan]

cool avatar.. making fruit creations was a hobby when I was little.. lol

Thankee...I wish I could take credit for it...but I was looking for a picture for a party invitation one day and googled something like 'silly pictures' and that came up 😀

 

[Vulcan]

Hell yeah. 😎

All you need is a quadriceps infarction 😛

 

[vickpick]

Thankee...I wish I could take credit for it...but I was looking for a picture for a party invitation one day and googled something like 'silly pictures' and that came up 😀

i had a book on it.. and one of the chapters was on how make a similar owl.. i was never able to make a good one since the little square texture you see in the owl's chest is incredibly difficult...

oh yea, and the wings on the sides, they are little piece made from the top we cut off...

my damn pieces would never stay stuck!!! they always fell out and it doesn't seem good to use toothpicks everywhere...

 

[codswallop]

Sir Isaac Newton was a religious nut-job, I'm curtain he was/is smarter then anyone on this forum, on the world for that matter.

But if Newton was around to learn about all that has been discovered since the 1700s, who knows if he would be one now.

 

[vickpick]

But if Newton was around to learn about all that has been discovered since the 1700s, who knows if he would be one now.

all we know right now will definitely be old and miniscule in 2100's and def. so in 2400's..

that doesnt mean u wouldn't 've been intelligent if u live in that era

 

[StormingWynn]

But if Newton was around to learn about all that has been discovered since the 1700s, who knows if he would be one now.

That what? Even though the universe is govern by the physical laws he proposed, the theory of God cannot still be dis proven?

 

[StormingWynn]

all we know right now will definitely be old and miniscule in 2100's and def. so in 2400's..

that doesnt mean u wouldn't 've been intelligent if u live in that era

Woops I guess I misunderstood his statement. I'm confused now. 😕

 

[Vulcan]

That what? Even though the universe is govern by the physical laws he proposed, the theory of God cannot still be dis proven?

Unless of course we find a large underground deposit of antiG-d

 

[vickpick]

Woops I guess I misunderstood his statement. I'm confused now. 😕

dont worry im confused too... this thread has developed into a very confusing discussion..

 

[codswallop]

What's confusing about it? I'm just saying that if he were alive today he might not believe in the supernatural.

 

[StormingWynn]

dont worry im confused too... this thread has developed into a very confusing discussion..

I was following it but then it got crazy and crap. I left for a while..

But my view:

I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution. I think I've explained it before. Religion is just there for the control of the mass populous.

 

[DrYoda]

Is this thread a record for most pages in shortest time?

and on topic: yes (the first one).

 

[orthomyxo]

Whoever made this thread was askin' for it.

 

[vickpick]

I was following it but then it got crazy and crap. I left for a while..

But my view:

I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution. I think I've explained it before. Religion is just there for the control of the mass populous.

i picked option 2, you?

 

[RogueUnicorn]

I was following it but then it got crazy and crap. I left for a while..

But my view:

I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution. I think I've explained it before. Religion is just there for the control of the mass populous.

thanks marx.

 

[StormingWynn]

What's confusing about it? I'm just saying that if he were alive today he might not believe in the supernatural.

I'm sure he still would. Just because we can explain where the universe came from (A point in space that magically appeared). We cannot explain where that came from. After all, isn't that physics? Mass/energy cannot created, it's merely transferred? Until we can answer with 100% certainty where anything came from we cannot disprove the existence of God. All I'm saying is that God is the universe and vice-versa.

 

[vickpick]

Is this thread a record for most pages in shortest time?

and on topic: yes (the first one).

possibly.. this is the fastest growing thread i've been involved in sdn

 

[teenmachinery1]

thanks marx.

Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, the spirit of a spiritless situation.

-marx

 

[StormingWynn]

i picked option 2, you?

Same here.

thanks marx.

What? Sorry don't get it.

 

[teenmachinery1]

Same here.



What? Sorry don't get it.

He was referring to Marx's alleged religion is the opiate of the masses quote.

 

[codswallop]

Until we can answer with 100% certainty where anything came from we cannot disprove the existence of God.

You could postulate an infinite number of things that couldn't be disproven with 100% certainty (like the flying spaghetti monster satirically shows). That wouldn't make it reasonable to believe in all/any of them.

 

[StormingWynn]

He was referring to Marx's alleged religion is the opiate of the masses quote.

Oh I get you.

 

[tncekm]

bad title. evolution through natural selection is a fact. whether this is the complete explanation for the origin of life is what you're asking. and i raise my eyebrows at those voting for the last two options.

You'd think so, but in reality many people still deny this [near]fact.

 

[StormingWynn]

You could postulate an infinite number of things that couldn't be disproven with 100% certainty (like the flying spaghetti monster satirically shows). That wouldn't make it reasonable to believe in all/any of them.

If I believe God as being the Universe itself and you being against that, you'll be trying to prove that you yourself don't exist. Are you?

 

[rockaction]

You could postulate an infinite number of things that couldn't be disproven with 100% certainty (like the flying spaghetti monster satirically shows). That wouldn't make it reasonable to believe in all/any of them.

All praise be to the flying spaghetti monster!

 

[rockaction]

If I believe God as being the Universe itself and you being against that, you'll be trying to prove that you yourself don't exist. Are you?

Psh. This whole pantheistic thing is just semantics. You want there to be a God so you call everything God. Yeah, in that sense there is a God, but what's the point?

 

[teenmachinery1]

If I believe God as being the Universe itself and you being against that, you'll be trying to prove that you yourself don't exist. Are you?

LOL!

 

[codswallop]

If I believe God as being the Universe itself and you being against that, you'll be trying to prove that you yourself don't exist. Are you?

Of course not. If you arbitrarily assign the name "God" to my left shoe, then we can all agree that God exists. I was speaking of God in the commonly accepted terms of a supernatural, conscious being.

 

[teenmachinery1]

All praise be to the flying spaghetti monster!

Here here!!

 

[StormingWynn]

Of course not. If you arbitrarily assign the name "God" to my left shoe, then we can all agree that God exists. I was speaking of God in the commonly accepted terms of a supernatural, conscious being.

Well isn't the universe just a supernatural being? We can't even explain where it came from or from what.

 

[codswallop]

Well isn't the universe just a supernatural being? We can't even explain where it came from or from what.

You can't really sit down and have a good chat with the universe. Makes for a poor being.

You're saying that if we can't explain where something came from it is supernatural? Does that mean that germs were supernatural before we were able to explain where they came from?

 

[RogueUnicorn]

Well isn't the universe just a supernatural being? We can't even explain where it came from or from what.

i would imagine the universe is by definition natural

 

[StormingWynn]

You can't really sit down and have a good chat with the universe. Makes for a poor being.

You're saying that if we can't explain where something came from it is supernatural? Does that mean that germs were supernatural before we were able to explain where they came from?

That's why I said, until we can find where anything came from we cannot disprove the theory of God.

 

[codswallop]

i would imagine the universe is by definition natural

Ding! Ding! Ding!

 

[StormingWynn]

i would imagine the universe is by definition natural

We constructed that word to fit the Universe. It doesn't mean it is.

 

[codswallop]

That's why I said, until we can find where anything came from we cannot disprove the theory of God.

Ok, but then it makes a belief in God only as reasonable as a belief in any unproven postulate, noodly or otherwise.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

We constructed that word to fit the Universe. It doesn't mean it is.

um ok. i don't think you can just go redefining all the words in the english language now.

 

[greatnt249]

i would imagine the universe is by definition natural

I was just about to say the same thing.👍

 

[teenmachinery1]

Phew!! According to the poll here, 90% of us believe in evolution.

 

[rockaction]

That's why I said, until we can find where anything came from we cannot disprove the theory of God.

but there's still no positive evidence for God...

 

[codswallop]

um ok. i don't think you can just go redefining all the words in the english language now.

That's just mean. Taking away one of the only tools in her kit. 😀

 

[tncekm]

um ok. i don't think you can just go redefining all the words in the english language now.

Why not? That's what they do in law school.

 

[angst019]

Well isn't the universe just a supernatural being? We can't even explain where it came from or from what.

Before 1953, we couldn't explain the structure of DNA, but that didn't make it supernatural. We can at least hope to use science and math to explain the universe. That's the distinction between the natural and the supernatural - the natural can be explained using science, the supernatural can't hope to be.

To break down your argument:

The origin of X cannot be known.
If the origin of something is unknown, it is supernatural.
Therfore, X is supernatural.

To illustrate that this is invalid, you cannot know the origin of any particular squirrel you encounter, yet no squirrel is supernatural.