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Mad Jack said:
Never really understood why people were all proud to be members of frats. All this pledging **** is just some sad-ass attempt at a ceremony to carry you from childhood to adulthood, but it's run by a bunch of other children. Paying money to be treated like **** so you can treat other people like **** and then bond over having treated and been treated like **** is just plain ******ed.

I saw what you did there, switching it from US military to CIA. While the edit is clever (who likes the CIA?), the original post was pretty harsh man. Military dudes just be doin' their jobs.
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just callin like i see it after seeing documentaries of relatives of innocent drone strike victims joining militant groups. if some foreign country had drones hovering over US streets and blasting away, I'd call them terrorists
one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, the saying goes


 
Oh_Gee said:
just callin like i see it after seeing documentaries of relatives of innocent drone strike victims joining militant groups. if some foreign country had drones hovering over US streets and blasting away, I'd call them terrorists
one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, the saying goes


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I'd love to get into that argument, but last time I did, I got warned for being off topic. Let's just say we'd probably agree on more things than we disagree on, but at the end of the day, everyone's a victim except the people actually responsible for this mess.

One of my secrets might actually involve just how much the US government and I disagree, and how deep onto their bad side I ended up in the past 😉
 
Mad Jack said:
I'd love to get into that argument, but last time I did, I got warned for being off topic. Let's just say we'd probably agree on more things than we disagree on, but at the end of the day, everyone's a victim except the people actually responsible for this mess.

One of my secrets might actually involve just how much the US government and I disagree, and how deep onto their bad side I ended up in the past 😉
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Yeah. We military are all baby killers doncha know?
 
Mad Jack said:
The men and women that choose to serve this country in the military, particularly those in the enlisted and lower commissioned ranks, are wonderful people, I'd never, ever say otherwise.
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Oh. I wasn't accusing you of having those sentiments. 😛
 
Mad Jack said:
Just making sure. I couldn't leave that one undefended.

So let's get back on topic. Who here has been cuffed in the back of a police cruiser at some point in their life?








*raises hand*
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Did you break into a museum to steal 18th Century pirate artifacts?!
 
Mad Jack said:
One of my secrets might actually involve just how much the US government and I disagree, and how deep onto their bad side I ended up in the past 😉
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I am just so intrigued. *sigh*
 
Mad Jack said:
Never really understood why people were all proud to be members of frats. All this pledging **** is just some sad-ass attempt at a ceremony to carry you from childhood to adulthood, but it's run by a bunch of other children. Paying money to be treated like **** so you can treat other people like **** and then bond over having treated and been treated like **** is just plain ******ed.
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Got to disagree vehemently here. I'm sure I would have had a great time in college regardless, but the fraternity experience made everything so much more enjoyable.....and is related to any secrets i may or may not have 😉
 
WFU2015 said:
Yeah man I was in a golden shower fetish frat. Pretty wild...

Not really. But yeah I mean I pissed myself all the time on the wall, we all did. Twelve hours with no breaks, what else are you gonna do?
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Hey there homie, where can I join one of these uh frat thingys you kids are talkin about, hmm? Seems rad!
 
WFU2015 said:
My 15 weeks of pledging was the most difficult experience of my life, and yet it was the most meaningful also. More meaningful than anything on my AMCAS at least. I hope you someday too find yourself crying uncontrollably in the shower at 7am on a Friday in May, covered in mud and dirt and cuts and bruises and blood and piss, overcome with emotion as the water washes over you and you try to force out the words to somehow explain to your dad on the other end of the speakerphone what you've just finished, what you've accomplished, what kind of a man you've become over those last few months, and how proud of you he would be if he could ever know what you had willingly subjected yourself to and subsequently conquered. Sad that I can't make "getting hazed into the dirt for 12 hours straight every Thursday night" one of my 15 experiences. But alas, you'll never experience this. So your opinions will always remain just that, opinions.
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Wow, this is one of the most touching and inspirational stories and I've ever heard.

Oh wait, you didn't join the army, you just did ****ing ******ed crap that you apparently think was transformative. I know a lot of people that could write even more powerfully about the first time they took MDMA 👍
 
WFU2015 said:
Well that would just defeat the purpose. Why sign up for the easy route when a greater challenge is available? Pledging works because it is brutally difficult. Make it easier, it doesn't work, pledges don't gain as much from the process as they could or should, and people become critical because the gains no longer justify the means. It's a delicate balance.
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Whyyyyyyyyyyy, though? If you're going to go through all of that, why isn't there anything worthwhile at the end?
 
WFU2015 said:
You're missing the point man, there is quite a bit meaningful and worthwhile waiting on the other side of you truly want to be a part of it all and you truly invest yourself in the process. Like anything else in life, it is what you make of it. Either you get it or you don't, and if you don't hearing about it from somebody who does is never going to change your opinion because you can never really understand without experiencing it start to finish. That's why these conversations never go anywhere, it's impossible to see eye to eye when you're both on completely different levels.
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First of all, I'm not a man. Second, what you're describing sounds a lot like effort justification to me. You went through all of this actual torture to be given a set of friends. It shouldn't be that hard. Not even close.
 
Cotterpin said:
First of all, I'm not a man. Second, what you're describing sounds a lot like effort justification to me. You went through all of this actual torture to be given a set of friends. It shouldn't be that hard. Not even close.
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I guess that's what bugs me. It's meaningless, actual torture of people that you supposedly want to be your friends, that you then pay to become a member of their organization. I mean, objectively, that looks like the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Me and my friends are close because of things we'd take back if we could, people we wish were still with us, things we wish had never happened. I can think of seven of them I'd take a bullet for without question though, because we saw and went through a lot, but at the end of the day, I'd take it all back and have us be less close for all that pain to be gone and those people to be with us still. Not because it'd be better for me, but because it'd be better for them and their families.

Pity this thread hasn't picked up. I've got a lot of secrets I'd volunteer if it had. I guess I'll just be here waiting, so I'm not the only guy spilling his guts to randoms on the interwebs.
 
Mad Jack said:
I guess that's what bugs me. It's meaningless, actual torture of people that you supposedly want to be your friends, that you then pay to become a member of their organization. I mean, objectively, that looks like the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Me and my friends are close because of things we'd take back if we could, people we wish were still with us, things we wish had never happened. I can think of seven of them I'd take a bullet for without question though, because we saw and went through a lot, but at the end of the day, I'd take it all back and have us be less close for all that pain to be gone and those people to be with us still. Not because it'd be better for me, but because it'd be better for them and their families.

Pity this thread hasn't picked up. I've got a lot of secrets I'd volunteer if it had. I guess I'll just be here waiting, so I'm not the only guy spilling his guts to randoms on the interwebs.
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I still wanna hear about the museum heist 😛
 
...and its gone...

spent too much time looking for the right meme to respond with. That'll teach me.
 
Cotterpin said:
Oh, please do it anyway.
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I was leaning towards

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Not A Troll said:
A friend of mine was a drug dealer for 2 years and is going on interviews now
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NotASerialKiller said:
Yes, yes I do
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NotaCop said:
Hey there homie, where can I join one of these uh frat thingys you kids are talkin about, hmm? Seems rad!
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Lawper said:
What is this, a NotA Opposite Day here? Well in that case, a small secret: my persona is actually NotATriangle.
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On second thought, I'll become NotALadiesMan. 😍😍
 
Cyberdyne 101 said:
I still wanna hear about the museum heist 😛
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I haven't played Payday in a while :laugh:

Really thought, it was all a big misunderstanding. This girl I knew had recently cheated on her boyfriend, who told her he wished she was dead, after which she flipped out, grabbed some lighter fluid and some matches and stormed outside. I went out and was yelling like, what the **** are you doing, she said some crazy stuff about wanting to die to prove she felt sorry about what she'd done or some **** and started pouring lighter fluid on herself. I took her to the ground and got the matches out of her hand, the police showed up at the wrong time after hearing complaints of some crazy lady yelling and pouring lighter fluid all over herself, and when they showed up all they saw was a guy on top of a girl that was covered in lighter fluid and a the guy was holding some matches, etc etc. At the end of the day, they realized I was the sane person and Crazy McLighterfluid was insane and suicidal, but there was a good 15 minutes I spent in the back of a cruiser thinking I was going to go to prison for a while for attempted murder because I bothered keeping some girl from torching herself.

This is also, for the record, why I strongly encourage medical school applicants to not have crazy friends. Explaining such arrests to adcoms can be fairly difficult. Luckily, I was released without charges because there were witnesses and she owned up to being suicidal when they split us up and asked what the hell was going on. But I've seen how easily being close to unstable people can go wrong, and whenever I hear a story about some person on the forum that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if they were doing the right thing, I feel for them. That could've been me, I could be some unemployable guy with a criminal record for assault or attempted murder because I dared try and save a crazy friend from themselves. So there you go, that's the story of the time I got arrested, and it's not something a lot of people know.

But what would adcoms think! :thinking:
 
Mad Jack said:
I haven't played Payday in a while :laugh:

Really thought, it was all a big misunderstanding. This girl I knew had recently cheated on her boyfriend, who told her he wished she was dead, after which she flipped out, grabbed some lighter fluid and some matches and stormed outside. I went out and was yelling like, what the **** are you doing, she said some crazy stuff about wanting to die to prove she felt sorry about what she'd done or some **** and started pouring lighter fluid on herself. I took her to the ground and got the matches out of her hand, the police showed up at the wrong time after hearing complaints of some crazy lady yelling and pouring lighter fluid all over herself, and when they showed up all they saw was a guy on top of a girl that was covered in lighter fluid and a the guy was holding some matches, etc etc. At the end of the day, they realized I was the sane person and Crazy McLighterfluid was insane and suicidal, but there was a good 15 minutes I spent in the back of a cruiser thinking I was going to go to prison for a while for attempted murder because I bothered keeping some girl from torching herself.

This is also, for the record, why I strongly encourage medical school applicants to not have crazy friends. Explaining such arrests to adcoms can be fairly difficult. Luckily, I was released without charges because there were witnesses and she owned up to being suicidal when they split us up and asked what the hell was going on. But I've seen how easily being close to unstable people can go wrong, and whenever I hear a story about some person on the forum that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if they were doing the right thing, I feel for them. That could've been me, I could be some unemployable guy with a criminal record for assault or attempted murder because I dared try and save a crazy friend from themselves. So there you go, that's the story of the time I got arrested, and it's not something a lot of people know.

But what would adcoms think! :thinking:
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Mess around with side dude -> try to light self on fire.

Perfect logic! Lol.
 
Mad Jack said:
I haven't played Payday in a while :laugh:

Really thought, it was all a big misunderstanding. This girl I knew had recently cheated on her boyfriend, who told her he wished she was dead, after which she flipped out, grabbed some lighter fluid and some matches and stormed outside. I went out and was yelling like, what the **** are you doing, she said some crazy stuff about wanting to die to prove she felt sorry about what she'd done or some **** and started pouring lighter fluid on herself. I took her to the ground and got the matches out of her hand, the police showed up at the wrong time after hearing complaints of some crazy lady yelling and pouring lighter fluid all over herself, and when they showed up all they saw was a guy on top of a girl that was covered in lighter fluid and a the guy was holding some matches, etc etc. At the end of the day, they realized I was the sane person and Crazy McLighterfluid was insane and suicidal, but there was a good 15 minutes I spent in the back of a cruiser thinking I was going to go to prison for a while for attempted murder because I bothered keeping some girl from torching herself.

This is also, for the record, why I strongly encourage medical school applicants to not have crazy friends. Explaining such arrests to adcoms can be fairly difficult. Luckily, I was released without charges because there were witnesses and she owned up to being suicidal when they split us up and asked what the hell was going on. But I've seen how easily being close to unstable people can go wrong, and whenever I hear a story about some person on the forum that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if they were doing the right thing, I feel for them. That could've been me, I could be some unemployable guy with a criminal record for assault or attempted murder because I dared try and save a crazy friend from themselves. So there you go, that's the story of the time I got arrested, and it's not something a lot of people know.

But what would adcoms think! :thinking:
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Wow, what you did was freaking heroic! You literally saved her life! I definitely see your points about the drawbacks of being around unstable people, but she was obviously very fortunate to have you there!
 
Cyberdyne 101 said:
Wow, what you did was freaking heroic! You literally saved her life! I definitely see your points about the drawbacks of being around unstable people, but she was obviously very fortunate to have you there!
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It totally wasn't heroic, it was just an automatic reaction. I figured I'd just grab the matches and tell her she was being stupid and that would be that. Teenagers, they don't think at all, whether they're wanting to kill themselves or trying to stop somebody from doing so, it's all just gut reactions and doing stupid things without thinking.
medic86 said:
Mess around with side dude -> try to light self on fire.

Perfect logic! Lol.
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Crazy girl logic, how does it work?
 
Mad Jack said:
I haven't played Payday in a while :laugh:

Really thought, it was all a big misunderstanding. This girl I knew had recently cheated on her boyfriend, who told her he wished she was dead, after which she flipped out, grabbed some lighter fluid and some matches and stormed outside. I went out and was yelling like, what the **** are you doing, she said some crazy stuff about wanting to die to prove she felt sorry about what she'd done or some **** and started pouring lighter fluid on herself. I took her to the ground and got the matches out of her hand, the police showed up at the wrong time after hearing complaints of some crazy lady yelling and pouring lighter fluid all over herself, and when they showed up all they saw was a guy on top of a girl that was covered in lighter fluid and a the guy was holding some matches, etc etc. At the end of the day, they realized I was the sane person and Crazy McLighterfluid was insane and suicidal, but there was a good 15 minutes I spent in the back of a cruiser thinking I was going to go to prison for a while for attempted murder because I bothered keeping some girl from torching herself.

This is also, for the record, why I strongly encourage medical school applicants to not have crazy friends. Explaining such arrests to adcoms can be fairly difficult. Luckily, I was released without charges because there were witnesses and she owned up to being suicidal when they split us up and asked what the hell was going on. But I've seen how easily being close to unstable people can go wrong, and whenever I hear a story about some person on the forum that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if they were doing the right thing, I feel for them. That could've been me, I could be some unemployable guy with a criminal record for assault or attempted murder because I dared try and save a crazy friend from themselves. So there you go, that's the story of the time I got arrested, and it's not something a lot of people know.

But what would adcoms think! :thinking:
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I'm sure she would have told the cops what happened when she calmed down though, it's not like someone who was about to self-immolate out of guilt would let someone trying to help them go to prison for years, doesn't sound like her MO. Crazy friends are only dangerous if they're crazy in a cruel way.
 
NotASerialKiller said:
I'm sure she would have told the cops what happened when she calmed down though, it's not like someone who was about to self-immolate out of guilt would let someone trying to help them go to prison for years, doesn't sound like her MO. Crazy friends are only dangerous if they're crazy in a cruel way.
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She was also crazy in those ways. She's the kind of girl that didn't regret what she did because she hurt him, but because she thought she was going to lose him and wanted a way to make him feel awful in the process by believing he'd driven her to suicide. I was afraid she'd press charges and to teach the guy a lesson about what happens when he says such careless things to her, because she was certifiably insane and completely unpredictable. She was grade A crazy, the kind of nuts you usually don't see outside of sleazy daytime talk shows and Lifetime dramas.
 
Mad Jack said:
She was also crazy in those ways. She's the kind of girl that didn't regret what she did because she hurt him, but because she thought she was going to lose him and wanted a way to make him feel awful in the process by believing he'd driven her to suicide. I was afraid she'd press charges and to teach the guy a lesson about what happens when he says such careless things to her, because she was certifiably insane and completely unpredictable. She was grade A crazy, the kind of nuts you usually don't see outside of sleazy daytime talk shows and Lifetime dramas.
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Haha, fair enough. I have friends who are legitimately mentally ill who are all very kind and the least likely people to ever get you into trouble.
 
NotASerialKiller said:
Haha, fair enough. I have friends who are legitimately mentally ill who are all very kind and the least likely people to ever get you into trouble.
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Oh, absolutely. Not everyone with mental illness is a bad person. There's a difference between harmless and mentally ill and full-blown, run for your life crazy. Took years of experience to learn the difference.
 
Mad Jack said:
It totally wasn't heroic, it was just an automatic reaction. I figured I'd just grab the matches and tell her she was being stupid and that would be that. Teenagers, they don't think at all, whether they're wanting to kill themselves or trying to stop somebody from doing so, it's all just gut reactions and doing stupid things without thinking.
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You still saved her from agonizing pain. Definitely heroic.
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@Mad Jack that story was nuts! You had me at the edge of my seat. Please tell me you have more stories.
 
We'll, ok...I have a story.

So I used to go to a fairly strict, religious school. Had a curfew and everything.
So, freshman year, I'm hanging out with my SO, and as Lawper likes to describe, things start to get a little steamy.

Can't really stay on campus so we went to this park, which in retrospect wasn't the best option either.

We thought, it's night, no one will be there. Except an office saw us drive in there I suppose.

Unfortunately it didn't take us long to pick up where we left off and were literally caught with our pants down.

Could have been very bad. Being in a park even after hours could have landed me on a sex offender list...

Fortunately after sitting in the back of the cop car and a good scare the officer figured we learned our lesson and let it slide.
I was honest about why we came there to do what we were doing, I think he felt bad about the repression.
 
TheZaLord said:
We'll, ok...I have a story.

So I used to go to a fairly strict, religious school. Had a curfew and everything.
So, freshman year, I'm hanging out with my SO, and as Lawper likes to describe, things start to get a little steamy.

Can't really stay on campus so we went to this park, which in retrospect wasn't the best option either.

We thought, it's night, no one will be there. Except an office saw us drive in there I suppose.

Unfortunately it didn't take us long to pick up where we left off and were literally caught with our pants down.

Could have been very bad. Being in a park even after hours could have landed me on a sex offender list...

Fortunately after sitting in the back of the cop car and a good scare the officer figured we learned our lesson and let it slide.
I was honest about why we came there to do what we were doing, I think he felt bad about the repression.
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My favorite part: "as @Lawper likes to describe" LOLOL
 
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