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Do you think I will get accepted?
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Since this is a public record, dental schools will probably know if they do a simple search on you. I’d say disclose it before they find out on their own after acceptance
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I don't want to preach, so please don't understand it this way but as a future dentist, you need to realize that the more you drink, the more you'll screw up somewhere or another.
I mean 1 glass of wine or two, no biggie, but to get arrested by cops that means you had a lot of drinks and they probably did you a service instead of letting you walk unattended and god knows what could have happened to you.
Did you ruin your chances? Nobody knows for sure, but as someone else suggested you probably better off by being honest about it.
Will they check your record right now? I don't know they probably made the decision about you after the interview.
Also, if you decided not to disclose this incident I think it's better that you remove the info about your activity and gpa
Very specific, and some schools check SDN regularly.
I suggest contacting a lawyer and ask him for his opinion.
I quoted some stuff from this website Public Intoxication - FindLaw
"Public intoxication laws exist to prevent people from disturbing others in public and to remove people who appear to be unable to stop themselves from hurting themselves or others."
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Public Intoxication: Defenses and Exceptions
If you are accused of being publicly intoxicated, your lawyer may be able to raise legal defenses. Here are some of the defenses to public intoxication charges:
If you or a loved one experienced are charged with being publicly intoxicated or drunk and disorderly, you may be able to defend and fight the charge in court.
Some of the legal factors that a public intoxication defense attorney can review with you include:
1. Whether you or your loved ones, given the particular facts of your case, actually violated city or state law;
2. Whether the arresting police or law enforcement officer followed the law;
3. Whether your conduct did, or did not, constitute a criminal violation.
Get Legal Help
Public intoxication and DUI convictions don't typically result in a long jail sentence, but the damage to your reputation can be difficult to mend and can haunt you for years to come. The assistance of a qualified criminal defense attorney will help try to eliminate or minimize the impact of these charges on your life. Schedule a free case review to discuss your case with a local attorney."
I mean 1 glass of wine or two, no biggie, but to get arrested by cops that means you had a lot of drinks and they probably did you a service instead of letting you walk unattended and god knows what could have happened to you.
Did you ruin your chances? Nobody knows for sure, but as someone else suggested you probably better off by being honest about it.
Will they check your record right now? I don't know they probably made the decision about you after the interview.
Also, if you decided not to disclose this incident I think it's better that you remove the info about your activity and gpa
Very specific, and some schools check SDN regularly.
I suggest contacting a lawyer and ask him for his opinion.
I quoted some stuff from this website Public Intoxication - FindLaw
"Public intoxication laws exist to prevent people from disturbing others in public and to remove people who appear to be unable to stop themselves from hurting themselves or others."
"
Public Intoxication: Defenses and Exceptions
If you are accused of being publicly intoxicated, your lawyer may be able to raise legal defenses. Here are some of the defenses to public intoxication charges:
- You Are Not Drunk And Are Not Acting Drunk
An affirmative defense to charges of being drunk and disorderly is that you were not actually behaving in a drunken manner in public. You may claim your loud behavior was due to enthusiasm over a promotion or excitement that your team won a sports contest. The burden of proving this defense remains on the person accused of the crime. - Public Intoxication Is Not A Crime Where You Are Cited
Some communities do not have laws against public intoxication. States like Nevada, Montana, and Missouri do not criminalize being drunk in public. The city of Milwaukee allows people to be drunk in public, although other municipalities in Wisconsin outlaw public drunkenness. - You Are Cited for Public Intoxication While In A Private Place
Being convicted of public drunkenness charge requires that you are in public. If you are not in public, then an essential element of the offense is missing. If a police officer orders you to come out into a public place and then cites you for public intoxication, you may be able to raise this defense.
If you or a loved one experienced are charged with being publicly intoxicated or drunk and disorderly, you may be able to defend and fight the charge in court.
Some of the legal factors that a public intoxication defense attorney can review with you include:
1. Whether you or your loved ones, given the particular facts of your case, actually violated city or state law;
2. Whether the arresting police or law enforcement officer followed the law;
3. Whether your conduct did, or did not, constitute a criminal violation.
Get Legal Help
Public intoxication and DUI convictions don't typically result in a long jail sentence, but the damage to your reputation can be difficult to mend and can haunt you for years to come. The assistance of a qualified criminal defense attorney will help try to eliminate or minimize the impact of these charges on your life. Schedule a free case review to discuss your case with a local attorney."
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I'm going to say, since you already have applied, you don't need to do anything right now UNLESS the application rules say to disclose anything like this after you apply.
Now, off to alcohol and other stuff. I have seen far way too many dentists and dental students ruin their careers behind alcohol and drugs. I am seeing many waste off right now in front of my eyes and I want to tell them but they won't listen.
You are still early, but I hope you stay in control of yourself because it just gets harder in dental school and once you get into practice.
Think long term about decisions you make now because they DO have an effect. Hope you sort everything out.
Now, off to alcohol and other stuff. I have seen far way too many dentists and dental students ruin their careers behind alcohol and drugs. I am seeing many waste off right now in front of my eyes and I want to tell them but they won't listen.
You are still early, but I hope you stay in control of yourself because it just gets harder in dental school and once you get into practice.
Think long term about decisions you make now because they DO have an effect. Hope you sort everything out.
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This is from the ADA website:
“ADEA AADSAS provides a service to dental schools that wish to obtain a criminal background check on accepted students through Certiphi Screening. You can view schools that participate in the ADEA criminal background check by visiting the “Dental Schools Designation” section of the application or contacting dental schools.
Once accepted at a participating dental school, Certiphi® Screening, Inc. will send an email to the email address you entered in the ADEA AADSAS application. This email will give you access to a secure online form where you will provides basic identifying information and consent for this report to be obtained. You can review the final report prior to its distribution.”
So after you get accepted somewhere, it’s possible the dental school will want to do a criminal background check on you. I’d say disclose before they find out.
“ADEA AADSAS provides a service to dental schools that wish to obtain a criminal background check on accepted students through Certiphi Screening. You can view schools that participate in the ADEA criminal background check by visiting the “Dental Schools Designation” section of the application or contacting dental schools.
Once accepted at a participating dental school, Certiphi® Screening, Inc. will send an email to the email address you entered in the ADEA AADSAS application. This email will give you access to a secure online form where you will provides basic identifying information and consent for this report to be obtained. You can review the final report prior to its distribution.”
So after you get accepted somewhere, it’s possible the dental school will want to do a criminal background check on you. I’d say disclose before they find out.
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If you have not gone to court for this yet and you haven't been convicted it's not in a state database yet. For an arrest to show up they would have to do a search through the local police department in your area. They do this for security clearances in the military, especially if it is for a top secret or someone is enlisting for a position of trust (such as a police officer). The vetting process for clearances far exceeds a simple background check.
I deal with this issue a lot because as human resources if someone gets arrested there is a "blotter" that goes to the commander and if someone shows up as having been arrested they are supposed to have certain admin actions taken. In my experience sometimes people skirt this by not telling their command and then beating the charges. It's not a sure thing always that we catch it. I'm not telling you to lie to these schools, but I'm not super confident that with the resources at their disposal they would catch an arrest that didn't result in a conviction, but I could be wrong.
In any event the best thing is to hire a a good lawyer and really try to get a diversion to keep this off your record. I would notify the schools where you may get an offer once your case has a final disposition, aka a final ruling has been made. If you can get a diversion, that looks better in my opinion than an arrest with the outcome up in the air.
I deal with this issue a lot because as human resources if someone gets arrested there is a "blotter" that goes to the commander and if someone shows up as having been arrested they are supposed to have certain admin actions taken. In my experience sometimes people skirt this by not telling their command and then beating the charges. It's not a sure thing always that we catch it. I'm not telling you to lie to these schools, but I'm not super confident that with the resources at their disposal they would catch an arrest that didn't result in a conviction, but I could be wrong.
In any event the best thing is to hire a a good lawyer and really try to get a diversion to keep this off your record. I would notify the schools where you may get an offer once your case has a final disposition, aka a final ruling has been made. If you can get a diversion, that looks better in my opinion than an arrest with the outcome up in the air.
