Does it look bad if you've never had a job?

[rifle4802]

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But it's just so silly. I mean, you DON'T need 5 days to live a pathetic live outside of work.

It's like "being a bum, playing games and rotting away" for 5 days as a young buck and only working 2 days a week a weak, pathetic, physician.

AND you only make a pitiful 80K working part time. Maybe 100K xD.

Cause he wants to make decisions for only 2 days a week.

A Full time NP/PA is WAY more respectable, useful, more powerful of a medical practioner, than some pathetic loser kid who starts a career working 2 days a week, and has a reasoning for wanting to live like a teenager(please, 5 days of living like a loser!).

80K isn't bad at all, and that's my floor. I was thinking more like 100-110K... more than enough to live off of and provide for myself, especially without loan repayment to worry about. I don't see very many people in life struggling to live on a six figure salary.

Also, tell us why you so mad? It doesn't bother me one bit that you want to work your tail off for the rest of your life. I don't really care. Your life is yours to live as you please. Just like I can choose to work 2-3 days/week and for the rest of the 4-5 days/week hit up my Xbox One/PS4, feast on junk food, watch football for 10 hours on Sundays, sleep in, play 54 holes on the golf course, etc. I don't "need" 4-5 days to live that kind of life (what's so pathetic about it anyway?), but I want it. It's not a crime to want a life buddy. You just gotta deal with it.

 

[knv2u]

Streampaw's story has been consistent across several websites since at least 2011. The more I discover, the more I suspect she's not a troll. At least not intentionally.

It makes me feel sad for her. I looked through her blog and her random thought page, and assuming she isn't making it all up to garner sympathy, I truly do feel badly for her and I think she is sincere, even if misguided.

 

[rifle4802]

How do you know? Where is your evidence? Cause it's LAUGHABLE. Clinics will spit in your face expecting 2 days a week. Why pay for some pathetic doctor to work full time where a NP/PA is cheaper to pay part time. Hospital want you to take call several times a month, be available for hundreds of phone calls, and to maintain a set number of encounters. Not some weak, pathetic POS who wants to work 2 days a week. And what does this weak pathetic POS do in the 5 days off? Everything that can be done after work. I had a hard day of work, but watching basketball now and gaming probably later tonight after getting some reading done to enrich my mind. Balance is awesome 😀

Your life sounds pathetic. Dude, such a waste of oxygen 😛

I'm not sure what's funnier, how mad you are or that you seriously believe I won't find jobs wanting to work 2-3 days/week. Wake up kid. I don't know what world you live in, but part time doctors are everywhere. Whether they're females who want a family life, old geezers who are semi-retired, or whatever. They exist, and there are plenty of them.

Thanks for the laugh though. I get a huge kick out of reading your obtuse reasoning for why people won't be able to work however many hours they want to work in a free country.

 

[WillburCobb]

Streampaw's story has been consistent across several websites since at least 2011. The more I discover, the more I suspect she's not a troll. At least not intentionally.

Sadly true. I did some digging last night and SP comes off as being pretty genuine. I'd have to rank her blog, other profiles, etc. up there with the med student who was dismissed and made a website where she posted all of her school records and litigation from when she tried to sue the school to try and build support that the med school admins, college, and state all conspired to have her dismissed.

Against all odds,

WillburCobb

 

[KnuxNole]

Lol it's easy to have a life and be a hard working doctor. I work 80 hours and have time for hobbies

I'm not mad, but you are a wee little guy though so it's understsndable bout your juvenile plans. As a 40 year old, you don't wanna live like a teen, unless you remain a man child lmao.

But that's beside the point

You already know you need lots of time to shadow, volunteer, work, research to even get into med school. And there is no question or debate that people would find it odd that a kid doesn't have job experience. It's not a kiss of death, but it will always be questioned, one that you should never be surprised to hear for one second.

 

[touchpause13]

Streampaw's story has been consistent across several websites since at least 2011. The more I discover, the more I suspect she's not a troll. At least not intentionally.

Dude your like the streampaw whisperer

 

[WillburCobb]

Dude your like the streampaw whisperer

It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it. God bless you mayor Ford!

 

[rain4venus]

Cause he wants to make decisions for only 2 days a week.

A Full time NP/PA is WAY more respectable, useful, more powerful of a medical practioner, than some pathetic loser kid who starts a career working 2 days a week, and has a reasoning for wanting to live like a teenager(please, 5 days of living like a loser!).

I think it really has much less to do with salary or making decisions (in fact, I'm certain it has nothing to do with the actual differences in the jobs... If you want to be as lazy as possible, then why take on the extra responsibility?) and is almost completely a matter of status.
I wonder if his rich family would even continue to support him if he became a lowly nurse.

 

[TheBatman]

If you've never had a job then you probably never had to worry about if there will be a roof over your head the next day. If you'll eat the next day. If you'll receive enough aid to pay for your classes and textbooks. So yes it looks bad very bad imo

 

[Lucca]

Streampaw's story has been consistent across several websites since at least 2011. The more I discover, the more I suspect she's not a troll. At least not intentionally.

There's no way, there's simply no way.

 

[kreme]

He'll get the bare minimum passing score to squeeze in hitting the bong and tubing on CoD. And, he'll barely be available on rotations. In residency, he'll leave early and leave lots of work for the on call resident to clean up. As well as abusing sick days to the max.

FTFY

 

[KnuxNole]

Oh right, it takes skill to snipe 😛

 

[rain4venus]

If you've never had a job then you probably never had to worry about if there will be a roof over your head the next day. If you'll eat the next day. If you'll receive enough aid to pay for your classes and textbooks. So yes it looks bad very bad imo

that's true for the vast majority of med students

 

[mcloaf]

that's true for the vast majority of med students

Indeed it is.

 

[Dr.Forssmann]

😀

 

[knv2u]

Oops - misread the post.

 

[487806]

More like Streampaw's future husband or boyfriend. They are perfect for each other. Who better to care for the four kids she plans to have while doing a dermatology residency at Harvard? He looks like he'll have a lot of spare time on his hands.

I don't think the lawyer boyfriend would appreciate that

 

[knv2u]

I don't think the lawyer boyfriend would appreciate that

I misread the post! Oops!

 

[487806]

I misread the post! Oops!

Still applies

 

[moop]

There's no way, there's simply no way.

Absolutely ****ing not.

 

[NontradCA]

If you've never had a job then you probably never had to worry about if there will be a roof over your head the next day. If you'll eat the next day. If you'll receive enough aid to pay for your classes and textbooks. So yes it looks bad very bad imo

First of all, a lot of people work hard specifically so they don't have to worry about this. And they didn't necessarily care about poverty.

Secondly, I don't see how not experiencing hardship is a reflection of bad character. I consider that person lucky, and we should all wish that on those we care about.

 

[rifle4802]

First of all, a lot of people work hard specifically so they don't have to worry about this. And they didn't necessarily care about poverty.

Secondly, I don't see how not experiencing hardship is a reflection of bad character. I consider that person lucky, and we should all wish that on those we care about.

I may have ticked off a lot of the poor, blue-collar types in this thread... but they need to realize that not everyone is born and brought up like they were. For these grinders who need to scratch and claw their way to medical school by working jobs to pay for school tuition and still find time to volunteer, tutor and research... a lifetime of 60 hour work weeks, 24 hour calls, 3 am pagers beeping, sleep-deprived nights, and limited free time may sound acceptable. For others like me, it's a joke of a life, and I'll tell any hospital that expects me to do that to shove off.

 

[SN12357]

I may have ticked off a lot of the poor, blue-collar types in this thread... but they need to realize that not everyone is born and brought up like they were. For these grinders who need to scratch and claw their way to medical school by working jobs to pay for school tuition and still find time to volunteer, tutor and research... a lifetime of 60 hour work weeks, 24 hour calls, 3 am pagers beeping, sleep-deprived nights, and limited free time may sound acceptable. For others like me, it's a joke of a life, and I'll tell any hospital that expects me to do that to shove off.

Oh, don't be modest. You ticked off plenty of people from well-off backgrounds as well.

 

[NontradCA]

I may have ticked off a lot of the poor, blue-collar types in this thread... but they need to realize that not everyone is born and brought up like they were. For these grinders who need to scratch and claw their way to medical school by working jobs to pay for school tuition and still find time to volunteer, tutor and research... a lifetime of 60 hour work weeks, 24 hour calls, 3 am pagers beeping, sleep-deprived nights, and limited free time may sound acceptable. For others like me, it's a joke of a life, and I'll tell any hospital that expects me to do that to shove off.

Let us know how that works out for you.

 

[xffan624]

Oh, don't be modest. You ticked off plenty of people from well-off backgrounds as well.

Yeah, the majority of people regardless of background feel some internal desire to work hard, earn their own money, and be a productive member of society once they enter adulthood. I guess you're just unique.

And even for folks who don't have that desire, not everybody's parents who are rich would enable of lifestyle of 30% work, 70% gaming for their child. I would say it's your right to live that lifestyle as an adult, but if I were a parent of such a child, it's my right to not enable it by giving you money once you get past the age of 18.

 

[Goro]

That's perfectly OK, but you're highly unlikley to have a medical career to enable what you want.

Please... You really believe this nonsense? The old "once you've paid your dues" argument. What if I don't want to wait until I'm old, wrinkled and gray to be a bum and live a laid back life. I want that life when I'm still young and in my 30s and 40s. That's my right as a person, and too bad no one can stop me from doing otherwise.

 

[moop]

I may have ticked off a lot of the poor, blue-collar types in this thread... but they need to realize that not everyone is born and brought up like they were. For these grinders who need to scratch and claw their way to medical school by working jobs to pay for school tuition and still find time to volunteer, tutor and research... a lifetime of 60 hour work weeks, 24 hour calls, 3 am pagers beeping, sleep-deprived nights, and limited free time may sound acceptable. For others like me, it's a joke of a life, and I'll tell any hospital that expects me to do that to shove off.

$10k buy-in to Friday night poker plus OTC bond options says my family is just as rich if not richer than yours is, between the double Hampton homes (one of which I used to have diapers changed in) and the Paul Stuart blazer and Ferragamo loafers I have on right now. Yet you've also ticked me off, so drop the high-class act. Now don't tell me you wear Turnbull & Asser shirts when you play CoD; that's not Gucci. You got no clue what the **** "life" is lmao

 

[rifle4802]

$10k buy-in to Friday night poker plus OTC bond options says my family is just as rich if not richer than yours is, between the double Hampton homes (one of which I used to have diapers changed in) and the Paul Stuart blazer and Ferragamo loafers I have on right now. Yet you've also ticked me off, so drop the high-class act. Now don't tell me you wear Turnbull & Asser shirts when you play CoD; that's not Gucci. You got no clue what the **** "life" is lmao

I doubt it. Your flaring nostrils and raging suggest you are one of those lower class, grind it out types who took offense to my post. No disrespect intended at all. You gotta do what you gotta do to get by. I got plenty of buddies who come from backgrounds similar to yours. Cool dudes too. I just ain't going to live like that, not now and not in my 30s and 40s. Peace.

 

[moop]

I doubt it. Your flaring nostrils and raging suggest you are one of those lower class, grind it out types who took offense to my post. No disrespect intended at all. You gotta do what you gotta do to get by. I got plenty of buddies who come from backgrounds similar to yours. Cool dudes too. I just ain't going to live like that, not now and not in my 30s and 40s. Peace.

Bad troll is bad. Streampaw looks upon you with pity..

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

Maybe you could convince someone doing a mommy track job to share the job with you.

 

[corndogger]

I doubt it. Your flaring nostrils and raging suggest you are one of those lower class, grind it out types who took offense to my post. No disrespect intended at all. You gotta do what you gotta do to get by. I got plenty of buddies who come from backgrounds similar to yours. Cool dudes too. I just ain't going to live like that, not now and not in my 30s and 40s. Peace.

better hope mommy and daddy support you into your 40s then.

sad thing is, it's quite possible this guy's not a troll...

 

[rifle4802]

better hope mommy and daddy support you into your 40s then.

sad thing is, it's quite possible this guy's not a troll...

Why? I mean, it's awesome that I have that safety net just in case (it's evident that you don't)... but otherwise I'll have my own six figure salary in a profession pretty much 100% immune to recession. 2-3 days of work, 100K+/year, job that will always be in high demand, etc. Not sure where you're coming from champ.

 

[corndogger]

Why? I mean, it's awesome that I have that safety net just in case (it's evident that you don't)... but otherwise I'll have my own six figure salary in a profession pretty much 100% immune to recession. 2-3 days of work, 100K+/year, job that will always be in high demand, etc. Not sure where you're coming from champ.

haha, not looking to get into a flame war. I don't expect you to understand why I assumed that. If you had any self awareness, you'd know

 

[kreme]

Why? I mean, it's awesome that I have that safety net just in case (it's evident that you don't)... but otherwise I'll have my own six figure salary in a profession pretty much 100% immune to recession. 2-3 days of work, 100K+/year, job that will always be in high demand, etc. Not sure where you're coming from champ.

Sounds like you're trying too hard to turn medicine into a Tim Ferris 4H-workweek. Like I said, it's pretty hard, but if you want it, you can go into nonclinical consulting.

I think the reason people take your trolling so seriously is that nobody else in here really considers medicine just a job. At the very least it's a career that defines you, and at the most, it's an all-encompassing lifestyle. People nowadays are easily identified by their profession or career as opposed to olden times, when people were literally identified by their patriarchal lineage. What you're doing is essentially mocking the entire profession because you're disproving the trait that physicians need dedication to become who they are (or at least good at what they do; obviously, there are boatloads of terrible doctors)

Look, if you're not trolling, if you've got the credentials, and if you're serious about what you want, then go look for a career in nonclinical consulting, it hits all your prerequisites as a lifestyle career.

If you are trolling, I think you're doing some serious A+ work.

 

[DermViser]

Easy. The pay would be terrible part time, probably around 40-50k/year for NP/PA, whereas I can easily clear 6 figures as a doctor working part time (24-28 hours, 3 days/week). Most PA/NP don't clear 6 figures. To make around 80-90K, PA/NP need to work full time hours.

😆😆😆

 

[DermViser]

Sounds like you're trying too hard to turn medicine into a Tim Ferris 4H-workweek. Like I said, it's pretty hard, but if you want it, you can go into nonclinical consulting.

I think the reason people take your trolling so seriously is that nobody else in here really considers medicine just a job. At the very least it's a career that defines you, and at the most, it's an all-encompassing lifestyle. People nowadays are easily identified by their profession or career as opposed to olden times, when people were literally identified by their patriarchal lineage. What you're doing is essentially mocking the entire profession because you're disproving the trait that physicians need dedication to become who they are (or at least good at what they do; obviously, there are boatloads of terrible doctors)

Look, if you're not trolling, if you've got the credentials, and if you're serious about what you want, then go look for a career in nonclinical consulting, it hits all your prerequisites as a lifestyle career.

If you are trolling, I think you're doing some serious A+ work.

Yes, premeds talking about medicine being a "calling" is hilarious. There is a reason the level of competition for LIFESTYLE specialties: Radiology, Ophtho, Anesthesia, Derm are so high. Not surprisingly these are also fields with the highest satisfaction.

 

[rifle4802]

Sounds like you're trying too hard to turn medicine into a Tim Ferris 4H-workweek. Like I said, it's pretty hard, but if you want it, you can go into nonclinical consulting.

I think the reason people take your trolling so seriously is that nobody else in here really considers medicine just a job. At the very least it's a career that defines you, and at the most, it's an all-encompassing lifestyle. People nowadays are easily identified by their profession or career as opposed to olden times, when people were literally identified by their patriarchal lineage. What you're doing is essentially mocking the entire profession because you're disproving the trait that physicians need dedication to become who they are (or at least good at what they do; obviously, there are boatloads of terrible doctors)

Look, if you're not trolling, if you've got the credentials, and if you're serious about what you want, then go look for a career in nonclinical consulting, it hits all your prerequisites as a lifestyle career.

If you are trolling, I think you're doing some serious A+ work.

No, I am being serious. I'm a pretty dedicated student and I take my academics seriously. Competition for admission into medical school is intense and we all have to put in the work. I just find it funny that people like KnuxNole and others think I'll be turned down every job opportunity because I want to work part time. If that's so, why are there so many part time doctors out there? Just silly talk.

Furthermore, 3-4 years of residency only to switch to a consulting career is a WASTE. Non-clinical consulting is fine, but I don't need to spend 4 years doing graduate medical training to be a consultant. Plus, like I said, I'm really into the human body, pathology, treating illness, etc. I really want to learn all that stuff, which I highly doubt can be done in a consulting career.

 

[rifle4802]

😆😆😆

What's so funny? Full-timers in internal medicine, family medicine and psychiatry can easily hit 170-200K working 40-50 hours/week. You think it's that far-fetched to clear 6 figures working 25-30 hours/week? Sorry, but that's the reality.

 

[xffan624]

What's so funny? Full-timers in internal medicine, family medicine and psychiatry can easily hit 170-200K working 40-50 hours/week. You think it's that far-fetched to clear 6 figures working 25-30 hours/week? Sorry, but that's the reality.

Despite my abhorrence of the OP's attitude, it appears he's not as delusional as one would think. I think it will still be somewhat difficult to find a job initially, but if the OP is flexible and willing to move, it might be possible.

http://www.healthecareers.com/article/growing-trend-2013-the-part-time-physician/171542

http://www.acponline.org/residents_fellows/career_counseling/part-time.htm

 

[rifle4802]

Despite my abhorrence of the OP's attitude, it appears he's not as delusional as one would think. I think it will still be somewhat difficult to find a job initially, but if the OP is flexible and willing to move, it might be possible.

http://www.healthecareers.com/article/growing-trend-2013-the-part-time-physician/171542

http://www.acponline.org/residents_fellows/career_counseling/part-time.htm

No need to cite links to articles for credibility. The best sources of info for these things are actual doctors themselves. Plenty in my family say it's not uncommon or especially difficult to find these kinds of jobs. I'm sure I would have gotten better responses had I posted this in the residency forums (which I probably should have done in retrospect).

 

[xffan624]

No need to cite links to articles for credibility. The best sources of info for these things are actual doctors themselves. Plenty in my family say it's not uncommon or especially difficult to find these kinds of jobs. I'm sure I would have gotten better responses had I posted this in the residency forums (which I probably should have done in retrospect).

Yes because anecdotal accounts from your circle of acquaintances are much more accurate than statistics or surveys. 🙄

 

[Microglia]

No need to cite links to articles for credibility. The best sources of info for these things are actual doctors themselves. Plenty in my family say it's not uncommon or especially difficult to find these kinds of jobs. I'm sure I would have gotten better responses had I posted this in the residency forums (which I probably should have done in retrospect).

I think should you get into med school, pass boards, and complete residency you could potentially land a part-time gig.

I don't think getting the part time job will be the hard part for you, though. You don't have any real ECs. That's a pretty big deal for admissions and insurmountable. May wanna do some research (which could make the thread title moot), or clinical volunteering, or anything else to help out your application. Just sayin'. I don't actually think you are a troll..not anymore at least.

Too much patience and willingness to defend yourself. If you want to take anything from this thread that's useful, it's this: yea, you can probably swing part-time and still call yourself a doc in casual conversation. But your app isn't looking too good so far in the EC department. Strengthen it up and kill the MCAT for best odds. And don't slack with your patients. When you're actually on the job, part-time or not, give them the best damn care you can.

 

[moop]

I think should you get into med school, pass boards, and complete residency you could potentially land a part-time gig.

I don't think getting the part time job will be the hard part for you, though. You don't have any real ECs. That's a pretty big deal for admissions and insurmountable. May wanna do some research (which could make the thread title moot), or clinical volunteering, or anything else to help out your application. Just sayin'. I don't actually think you are a troll..not anymore at least.

Too much patience and willingness to defend yourself. If you want to take anything from this thread that's useful, it's this: yea, you can probably swing part-time and still call yourself a doc in casual conversation. But your app isn't looking too good so far in the EC department. Strengthen it up and kill the MCAT for best odds. And don't slack with your patients. When you're actually on the job, part-time or not, give them the best damn care you can.

Terrible advice. OP, don't listen to this guy. You're doing a great job with all that MW2 and CoD. The time and commitment needed to perfect those button-pressing skills so you can kill noobs are testaments to your work ethic and speak for themselves. Make sure you leverage during interviews how those hours in front of a TV screen have sharpened your senses and reflexes to make you superior to the rest of us hoi polloi. You gotta be sharp and quick-witted to become a doctor, right? How's volunteering at a soup kitchen gonna help that? Not at all. Xbox sure will, though. If you're as smart as you make yourself out to be then you'd know who to listen to here.

 

[masaraksh]

So I hear you like video games?

Whats your kill/death ratio? This is way more important than GPA (3.9+) or MCAT and will surely be asked during interviews!

 

[Microglia]

Terrible advice. OP, don't listen to this guy. You're doing a great job with all that MW2 and CoD. The time and commitment needed to perfect those button-pressing skills so you can kill noobs are testaments to your work ethic and speak for themselves. Make sure you leverage during interviews how those hours in front of a TV screen have sharpened your senses and reflexes to make you superior to the rest of us hoi polloi. You gotta be sharp and quick-witted to become a doctor, right? How's volunteering at a soup kitchen gonna help that? Not at all. Xbox sure will, though. If you're as smart as you make yourself out to be then you'd know who to listen to here.

This made my day. 😀 I concede my point, this guy knows what's up.

I'm under the assumption that somewhere in the 8 years of training OP will grow up and not really care about CoD anymore..it's pretty rare to see someone who is an attending bragging about pwning nubs on CoD. And kinda gets rid of the whole "I'm a doctor" charm in the ladies dept.

 

[rifle4802]

This made my day. 😀 I concede my point, this guy knows what's up.

I'm under the assumption that somewhere in the 8 years of training OP will grow up and not really care about CoD anymore..it's pretty rare to see someone who is an attending bragging about pwning nubs on CoD. And kinda gets rid of the whole "I'm a doctor" charm in the ladies dept.

Sure buddy, whatever you say. But where I come from (the real world), loads of people in their 30s are still logging 50+ hours/week on Warcraft, Mass Effect, Skyrim, CoD, GTA, etc. Have fun with a lifetime of getting up at 5 am every day, working 12 hour shifts/24 hour calls, and getting paged past midnight while I'm sleeping in until 10 am and living like I want to for 4-5 days every single week. Gonna be sweet and I'll have zero regrets.😛

 

[Microglia]

Sure buddy, whatever you say. But where I come from (the real world), loads of people in their 30s are still logging 50+ hours/week on Warcraft, Mass Effect, Skyrim, CoD, GTA, etc. Have fun with a lifetime of getting up at 5 am every day, working 12 hour shifts/24 hour calls, and getting paged past midnight while I'm sleeping in until 10 am and living like I want to for 4-5 days every single week. Gonna be sweet and I'll have zero regrets.😛

Thanks! Best of luck to you too, pal! 🙂

 

[Chipster.]

Sure buddy, whatever you say. But where I come from (the real world), loads of people in their 30s are still logging 50+ hours/week on Warcraft, Mass Effect, Skyrim, CoD, GTA, etc. Have fun with a lifetime of getting up at 5 am every day, working 12 hour shifts/24 hour calls, and getting paged past midnight while I'm sleeping in until 10 am and living like I want to for 4-5 days every single week. Gonna be sweet and I'll have zero regrets.😛

This is the real world now? You're delusional.

Also those people have never been laid.

Also you suck.

 

[rifle4802]

This is the real world now? You're delusional.

Also those people have never been laid.

Also you suck.

I feel your envy, but don't take it out on me. I'm just exercising my right as a free man to live how I want to. You can do the same if you want to, or you can slave away during your prime years and feel good about how big of a difference you are making in the world.

Either way, I'm gaming for the next 20+ years and I'll cherish every minute of it. Peace out.

 

[rain4venus]

Terrible advice. OP, don't listen to this guy. You're doing a great job with all that MW2 and CoD. The time and commitment needed to perfect those button-pressing skills so you can kill noobs are testaments to your work ethic and speak for themselves. Make sure you leverage during interviews how those hours in front of a TV screen have sharpened your senses and reflexes to make you superior to the rest of us hoi polloi. You gotta be sharp and quick-witted to become a doctor, right? How's volunteering at a soup kitchen gonna help that? Not at all. Xbox sure will, though. If you're as smart as you make yourself out to be then you'd know who to listen to here.

To be fair, this might actually be true if he were trying to go into surgery instead of primary care. I mean, not that it would help him get into med school, but that it could help him perform his job better. Especially as more and more surgeries become remote controlled.