Does Math count as science GPA?

[lightfire22000]

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I'm sure this question has been asked many times but do Math classes count as part of the science GPA. I had a terrible Multivariable calculus class and I got a C- in it. Will that be factored into the science GPA?

 

[gabem480]

Yes it does.

 

[WinterLights]

Its relatively easy to search for and find this information on a little thing called the internet.

 

[jamaicandoc]

BCPM GPA means: bio, chem, physics and maths, so yes it does..

 

[216397]

Yes, but if it makes you feel better, I got a C- in an upper level math course and I still have tons of interview invites. 🙂 So being crappy at math doesn't disqualify you at all.

 

[PornStarPreMed]

yes it does, EXCEPT for DO schools. for some reason, they don't consider math as science.

 

[lightfire22000]

Its relatively easy to search for and find this information on a little thing called the internet.

I did search that little thing and I got a few conflicting answers so I wanted to make sure. What confused me was the BCP was just for osteopathic medical schools where BCPM is for allopathic medical schools.

 

[JapaneseSakura]

Not for AACOMAs it doesn't.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

yes it does, EXCEPT for DO schools. for some reason, they don't consider math as science.

Maybe because math is most definitely not a science.....


AMCAS uses 'BCPM'. AACOMAS has science GPA, which is different.

 

[VikingLegacy]

baleeted

 

[theWUbear]

I'm sure this question has been asked many times but do Math classes count as part of the science GPA. I had a terrible Multivariable calculus class and I got a C- in it. Will that be factored into the science GPA?

Best thread answer:

http://tinyurl.com/3aezjg5

 

[IvyHopeful20]

<------ Math Major.

I most certainly agree with that. 😍

Nothing I learned was a science though. Math is awesome, we don't have to worry about all those prickly considerations like having to actually exist in reality. And we can actually prove things, unlike science.

 

[Pons Asinorum]

<------ Math Major.

Nothing I learned was a science though. Math is awesome, we don't have to worry about all those prickly considerations like having to actually exist in reality. And we can actually prove things, unlike science.

+1

Anyone who says that math is a science has never taken an upper-division math course.

 

[Isoprop]

+1

Anyone who says that math is a science has never taken an upper-division math course.

If those were "scientific fields" then according to that comic, sociology is a science too.

And I disagree, math is not a science. But I've never taken math higher than calculus, so perhaps someone can enlighten me.

 

[VikingLegacy]

baleeted

 

[manraj76]

I wish I had been a math major. Here the degree program is way faster than biochemistry, and as time goes on I realize that biochemistry is just not as cool to me as raw math is.

Math is the coolest thing alive and this is coming from an unbiased math major

 

[Suenya]

Math is just applied logic. Philosophy is further on the purity scale.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

Math is just applied logic. Philosophy is further on the purity scale.

Not really, which branch of philosophy are you talking about? If you're talking about induction, that's really not math and not pure at all (lots of false conclusions can be made). If you're talking about pure deductive logic, than that is a subset of math (or really, the basic foundation of most math itself).

If you're talking about other forms of philosophy (like moral or political), or ethics, then all I have to say is:

 

[Suenya]

Not really, which branch of philosophy are you talking about?... If you're talking about pure deductive logic, than that is a subset of math (or really, the basic foundation of most math itself).

And yes, deductive logic is a branch of philosophy. You sort of made the rest of the argument for me. When you get into deep areas of logic its the same thing as deep areas of math, because they're both really just logic at that point.

While areas of overlap like set theory, etc, are areas of research common to both math and philosophy, general deductive logic is considered a part of philosophy.

Math without all those numbers polluting the purity.

But once again, things like understanding what evidence is, the philosophy of science, etc, underlies the other things further up the scale of purity too.

 

[SOcash]

And yes, deductive logic is a branch of philosophy. You sort of made the rest of the argument for me. When you get into deep areas of logic its the same thing as deep areas of math, because they're both really just logic at that point.

Approved.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

Numbers are the purest form of expression. Philosohers use imperfect language. Obviously symbolic logic and deductive logic can be argued as part of either buy taking a whole subject view, all math is based on proofs while most philosophy is made up bull****.

 

[Grom]

But once again, things like understanding what evidence is, the philosophy of science, etc, underlies the other things further up the scale of purity too.

Yes, this is my understanding as well. Branches of philosophy, including philosophy of science, are the basis of logic, the scientific method, etc., and thus philosophy is the "most pure". I think I read once that scientists used to be "natural philosophers", as in "philosophers of nature".

Whether or not math is the most "pure", though, its still the most applied base for a lot of things.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

Philosophy of science is by far the most bastard subject of all time.

 

[ModerateMouse]

I think I read once that scientists used to be "natural philosophers", as in "philosophers of nature".

Yeah, that's why a "PhD" stands for "philosophy doctorate". 🙂

I think it is also related to the church/philosophy divide in place when all these degrees were being created.

I.e., you were either doing theology or "philosophy", and then the natural sciences were born from the efforts of these early natural philosophers (back when it was either religion or philosophy).

EDIT: I am sure all this is on Wiki. 😡 It's as if there is no point in knowing anything these days. Knowledge used to be just for the elite. 🙂

 

[VikingLegacy]

baleeted

 

[Pons Asinorum]

Q: Which is more fundamental to existence, quality or quantity?

This thread has gone down a rabbit hole that I never would have predicted...

 

[HolySmokes]

Math is the coolest thing alive and this is coming from an unbiased math major

As another completely unbiased math major, I'm going to have to agree with this guy.

 

[Nessy]

Back on track, yes math does count. Best of luck to you.

 

[Narmerguy]

Gotta love the arrogance of some math majors 🙄

We physicists never have problems with that.

 

[gravitywave]

I looooove this comic!!! It's been a while since we saw that one here 😀

Numbers are the purest form of expression. Philosohers use imperfect language. Obviously symbolic logic and deductive logic can be argued as part of either buy taking a whole subject view, all math is based on proofs while most philosophy is made up bull****.

i like you, why did you have to go and say something woefully ignorant like this?!?! 😡

Aristotle
Hume
Kant
Frege
Russell
Wittgenstein
Godel
Popper

if you don't think philosophy has informed math and science, maybe you should ask a more enlightened grad student/PhD about this.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

if you don't think philosophy has informed math and science, maybe you should ask a more enlightened grad student/PhD about this.

Well of course it has. You can even say Artistotle's logic is the foundation for all math. It was and remains one of the jewels of philosophy, math and science.

That doesn't stop most of the rest of branches of philosophies from being bad - like disgusting aborted fetus bad.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

Like: *cough* Paul Feyerabend *cough*

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Just interjecting here 😀. But Philosophy is the basis of theoretical idea. It is a area which is dedicated to thinking about theories and hyper-deductive thinking. As such its the most impure in terms of that comic but at the same time the foundation of all science and art.

Now if I could understand why the field of pure mathematics exists then I can say I know it all.

 

[gravitywave]

Like: *cough* Paul Feyerabend *cough*

He isn't irrelevant to the intellectual discourse just because you disagree with his ideas

 

[IvyHopeful20]

He isn't irrelevant to the intellectual discourse just because you disagree with his ideas

That's kind of the point though. You can agree or disagree, eg it's subjective, eg stupid, eg not pure. It would be way to the left of sociology on that chart.

If the proof is correct, there is nothing to disagree with. E.g, purity.