Does your family keep calling your a Radiologist?

[Anthodite]

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Just curious because me and my friends’ family think Radiation Therapy/Radiation Oncology=Radiography/Radiology

Edit: I hate you autocorrect

 

[Gfunk6]

Close family & friends understand that I’m a cancer doctor. But casual friends and acquaintances mistake me for a Radiologist frequently.

In the past I would correct them, but given the trajectory of our field, I am happy to be mistaken as something other than Rad Onc.

 

[medgator]

"radiology oncology"

 

[Anthodite]

"radiology oncology"

I appreciate their effort

 

[Anthodite]

Close family & friends understand that I’m a cancer doctor. But casual friends and acquaintances mistake me for a Radiologist frequently.

In the past I would correct them, but given the trajectory of our field, I am happy to be mistaken as something other than Rad Onc.

I was gonna be like “same ppl close to me know I do tumor zapping but not the name” but what does the ominous second paragraph meannnn? Do you think they’ll close down the entire departments/centers or something?

Side note: I did call off a relationship due to them REPEATEDLY calling me a radiology student(not really but it was the last straw in a string of a red flags).

 

[medgator]

I was gonna be like “same ppl close to me know I do tumor zapping but not the name” but what does the ominous second paragraph meannnn? Do you think they’ll close down the entire departments/centers or something?

Side note: I did call off a relationship due to them REPEATEDLY calling me a radiology student(not really but it was the last straw in a string of a red flags).

It refers to the fact that rads is still a competitive match and job market with rad onc being a relative joke to match into with much more of a dumpster fire job market in comparison, lead by academic and specialty leadership that seems intent in acceleration of the train to nowhere

 

[Anthodite]

It refers to the fact that rads is still a competitive match and job market with rad onc being a relative joke to match into with much more of a dumpster fire job market in comparison, lead by academic and specialty leadership that seems intent in acceleration of the train to

Sorry I had no idea that it was THAT bad. I don’t think any other role at clinic knows that either. I’ve only heard about the residency unfilled spots vaguely from SDN so I’m assuming only other physicians/med students are aware of this.

When I think of grim job outlook in the department I think of dosimetrists NOT radiation oncologists as the first thing that comes to mind. Only because I’ve been advised by every physicist and dosi I’ve met to not pursue dosimetry due to planning system development/ai advances. Had no idea you guys were really going through it right now. Thanks for explaining!!

 

[taserlaser]

Stolen from the meme twitter account at some point

 

[deleted1180461]

Being a radiologist would be nice. I just got an ad for $1M+ compensation and 10+ weeks vacation.

 

[TheWallnerus]

View attachment 387221Stolen from the meme twitter account at some point

E. Dermatologist

 

[elementaryschooleconomics]

I just tell people I'm a cancer doctor.

Although if our largest professional society keeps up their shenanigans, I might be telling people I'm in real estate sooner rather than later.

Anyone wanna see a great 2 bedroom property on Sunset? Open house this week!

 

[ramsesthenice]

Being a radiologist would be nice. I just got an ad for $1M+ compensation and 10+ weeks vacation.

I hear you, but the other 42(ish) weeks? I couldn’t do it.

 

[odyssey2]

This is funny to me since when I tell people I’m in radiology the number one response I get is “oh it must be so hard to deal with cancer all day”

 

[radoncftw]

I hear you, but the other 42(ish) weeks? I couldn’t do it.

Radiology, in community practice, is a grind i have heard.
Our radiologists make bank but are still very unhappy.
I can call my wife at work. Post on SDN. Sometimes watch netflix in the background while I contour or write a note.
I feel like radiologists are expected to be reading studies constantly.

 

[ramsesthenice]

Radiology, in community practice, is a grind i have heard.
Our radiologists make bank but are still very unhappy.
I can call my wife at work. Post on SDN. Sometimes watch netflix in the background while I contour or write a note.
I feel like radiologists are expected to be reading studies constantly.

It’s like anything, you have to enjoy what you do. One of my favorite radiologists (does body MRI) lives up the street from me and loves her job. Lights up talking about it and looking over scans with me. My brother-in-law however, dated a girl recently who is a neuroradiologist in the NE. She fully admits she picked it to make the most money without having to do surgeries or procedures. And make bank she does but she also HATES her job. It’s an absolute grind. They have contracts with 2 large regional centers and very little local competition. But none of the other partners want to split revenue so they won’t hire or replace the 2 partners who have left since she joined them. I seriously think I liked my burger gig in high school more than she likes her job.

 

[deleted1180461]

They have contracts with 2 large regional centers and very little local competition. But none of the other partners want to split revenue so they won’t hire or replace the 2 partners who have left since she joined them. I seriously think I liked my burger gig in high school more than she likes her job.

sounds like pp rad onc I experienced.

No real vacation because locums cost money and everyone’s too busy to cover. Hiring more doctors cuts into partner income. See more patients to keep income up, 15 consults a week no biggie. Churn and burn new grads with associate salaries because nothing eats into partner income like making more partners and non-partnership track docs cost too much (ie, a fair salary)

 

[elementaryschooleconomics]

It’s like anything, you have to enjoy what you do. One of my favorite radiologists (does body MRI) lives up the street from me and loves her job. Lights up talking about it and looking over scans with me. My brother-in-law however, dated a girl recently who is a neuroradiologist in the NE. She fully admits she picked it to make the most money without having to do surgeries or procedures. And make bank she does but she also HATES her job. It’s an absolute grind. They have contracts with 2 large regional centers and very little local competition. But none of the other partners want to split revenue so they won’t hire or replace the 2 partners who have left since she joined them. I seriously think I liked my burger gig in high school more than she likes her job.

sounds like pp rad onc I experienced.

No real vacation because locums cost money and everyone’s too busy to cover. Hiring more doctors cuts into partner income. See more patients to keep income up, 15 consults a week no biggie. Churn and burn new grads with associate salaries because nothing eats into partner income like making more partners and non-partnership track docs cost too much (ie, a fair salary)

Just echoing these two posts to highlight the concept of "lifestyle" and how variable it can be, and how everyone can have different definitions of what a "good lifestyle" or "good job" can be.

(in support of the concept that RadOnc is an "average" lifestyle specialty, unless you're 67-years-old and rode the wave perfectly and now make $500k/year as a "Vice Chair" seeing 2 patients per week while you do "meetings" working 10am-2pm Monday-Thursday).

 

[Barcelona PSG]

sounds like pp rad onc I experienced.

No real vacation because locums cost money and everyone’s too busy to cover. Hiring more doctors cuts into partner income. See more patients to keep income up, 15 consults a week no biggie. Churn and burn new grads with associate salaries because nothing eats into partner income like making more partners and non-partnership track docs cost too much (ie, a fair salar

Some of the academic places where bonuses are RVU based are doing the same as well. Hire NP/PA and let them see inpatients consults and follow up while residents end up seeing 12-15 consults and do notes for attendings and have 25-30 pts on treatment. This seems to be the new norm in some of the mid-tier programs around the country.

 

[Radadabbadoo]

Some of the academic places where bonuses are RVU based are doing the same as well. Hire NP/PA and let them see inpatients consults and follow up while residents end up seeing 12-15 consults and do notes for attendings and have 25-30 pts on treatment. This seems to be the new norm in some of the mid-tier programs around the country.

Work for Lou Potters and he will do this without giving you an RVU based bonus.

 

[deleted1180461]

Work for Lou Potters and he will do this without giving you an RVU based bonus.

That FFS money is going somewhere if it’s not going to the doctor that performed the service. What’s Lou’s total comp again?

 

[Radadabbadoo]

Was 1.6 million 5 years ago. Info in the public domain because he is a top 5 paid employee.

Young attendings there getting 5K annual bonuses while the money goes to him.

What a world.

 

[deleted1180461]

Was 1.6 million 5 years ago. Info in the public domain because he is a top 5 paid employee.

Young attendings there getting 5K annual bonuses while the money goes to him.

What a world.

Is he a baby boomer? Sounds like stage IV boomerism.

Does have a live in chef/valet and flies private? Don’t think I’m gonna see PW on a United flight anyway.

 

[radoncftw]

Was 1.6 million 5 years ago. Info in the public domain because he is a top 5 paid employee.

Young attendings there getting 5K annual bonuses while the money goes to him.

What a world.

oh my god.