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was wondering if any inpatient pharmacist (initially with no residency) ever applied and completed residency at their own site to be able to take on a more clinical role? For example maybe working in central environment and then doing residency to work as a specialist. If so, just wondering how it was to go from colleague to resident
 

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was wondering if any inpatient pharmacist (initially with no residency) ever applied and completed residency at their own site to be able to take on a more clinical role? For example maybe working in central environment and then doing residency to work as a specialist. If so, just wondering how it was to go from colleague to resident
It's a terrible idea.

For one, you should be able to distinguish yourself by doing a good job, offering to pick up clinical roles, asking to do consults, etc., etc., and work your way into floor-based practice, by working hard.

For two, you are already a practitioner, devolving yourself into a resident in-front of your colleagues is a terrible idea.

If you are dead set on a residency, then you need to apply to other facilities.

It's just really hard for me believe the necessity of a residency for a competent practitioner. I worked my way from 3rd shift pharmacist to floor-based pharmacist and now I'm the god damn lead pharmacist at the hospital. Along the way I was offered (but declined) an ER specialty job. Work hard, it will be enough, and if it's not, apply to another location.
 

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Would it be a terrible idea in any circumstance? If I got a job at a hospital with a residency program after I didn't match, I might be gently trying to test the waters for a possible transition to me being a resident next year. This is purely hypothetical in my case, but just wondering :)
 

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Some places are pretty strict with their PGY1/PGY2 job requirements though. And it might take a loooong time to work yourself from the basement to the critical care role or ID role if you're at an academic center, if they'll ever give you a shot that is. Seems like pharmacy is all about credentialing these days
 

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Interesting question, in general, I would agree it would be a bad idea to do it at the place you already work at, it would indeed seem like devolving. That said, there is an exception to every general rule, so maybe your case would be the exception.

And I guess it depends on what your ambitions are, but if you already have a job, why would you want to cut your pay and go back to a residency?
 
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And I guess it depends on what your ambitions are, but if you already have a job, why would you want to cut your pay and go back to a residency?
Pharmacy students don't seem to understand the point of a residency. I saw a recent post where someone said they were applying to pharmacist positions but would back out if they matched since a residency was their "goal", which I find funny because residency isn't a goal, it's a path to your goal.

When the end result of a PGY1 (and sometimes a PGY2) is inpatient staffing / hybrid clinical, you are already ahead of the game if you found a hospital position without a residency in this market.
 

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Pharmacy students don't seem to understand the point of a residency. I saw a recent post where someone said they were applying to pharmacist positions but would back out if they matched since a residency was their "goal", which I find funny because residency isn't a goal, it's a path to your goal.

When the end result of a PGY1 (and sometimes a PGY2) is inpatient staffing / hybrid clinical, you are already ahead of the game if you found a hospital position without a residency in this market.
I think it would depend on what the position was. If you only got a PRN position, then you really have no idea how long you could be lingering in that PRN spot before being able to move to FT or get on FT/PT/PRN at another institution. I can say that it might be worth the gamble and would not be a complete pay cut, as most PRN positions are limited in the number of hours they can pick up, so a residency will likely pay about the same or a bit more (assuming compared to just 1 PRN position). However, one could always keep the PRN job and look for retail work until the PRN turned into something FT (which would likely be a wiser move, as then you could move to PRN retail once the hospital position became more than PRN). If they have a FT hospital position, then about 2 years of experience will negate the PGY1 (unless you are trying to get into a large academic hospital, as they often want to have residency trained RPHs).
 
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Pharmacy students don't seem to understand the point of a residency. I saw a recent post where someone said they were applying to pharmacist positions but would back out if they matched since a residency was their "goal", which I find funny because residency isn't a goal, it's a path to your goal.

When the end result of a PGY1 (and sometimes a PGY2) is inpatient staffing / hybrid clinical, you are already ahead of the game if you found a hospital position without a residency in this market.
I was incredibly lucky and wound up with a job in the specialty I wanted even though I didn't complete a residency program. For a lot of people no residency = no dream job. It might not the best phrasing on their part, but it's honest. I think they meant that they still want to pursue whatever line of work they were seeking residency for. Even though I have the job I wanted, I'm still really sad that I didn't get the knowledge and experience that comes with residency training. :)