done with this

[Food]

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i've received the last of my rejections, and still waiting on news from the only school that interviewed me. If it doesn't happen, I'm done with this. This system is broken. I don't care how late I applied, I was no later than half of the people accepted to my state schools. I didn't expect anything from OOS schools, but wtf happened to my state schools? I hate all Florida schools now, except for UF who interviewed me. Especially F--- USF. I don't think I've ever hated a school so much. Complete waste of time doing a bunch of random activities and sending them numerous letters of update/interest.

So if you're looking to apply to USF next cycle, reconsider. They're perfectly willing to accept sub-par applicants from their feeder program, and will prefer them over you, no matter how much interest you show them, or how qualified you are.

Oh, and I have no problem accepting responsibility for how ****ty this cycle was. 99% of the blame is with me. But 1% of this was COMPLETE BS.

 

[Siverhideo1985]

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I am going to hell for this.

 

[futIDdoc]

dude.... you're 20. Take some time (year or two) and do something interesting and then reapply. As someone who was in a similar situation, trust me, you'll get in.

 

[TheMagicCookie]

i've received the last of my rejections, and still waiting on news from the only school that interviewed me. If it doesn't happen, I'm done with this. This system is broken. I don't care how late I applied, I was no later than half of the people accepted to my state schools. I didn't expect anything from OOS schools, but wtf happened to my state schools? I hate all Florida schools now, except for UF who interviewed me. Especially F--- USF. I don't think I've ever hated a school so much. Complete waste of time doing a bunch of random activities and sending them numerous letters of update/interest.

So if you're looking to apply to USF next cycle, reconsider. They're perfectly willing to accept sub-par applicants from their feeder program, and will prefer them over you, no matter how much interest you show them, or how qualified you are.

Oh, and I have no problem accepting responsibility for how ****ty this cycle was. 99% of the blame is with me. But 1% of this was COMPLETE BS.

To be completely honest, you have an awesome MCAT (congrats, btw), and low average GPA, and your ECs seem to be a little on the low side. On your MDapps you said you shadowed some docs, but how many hours did you end up with? Besides the Lions Club, what other volunteering did you have? What sort of clinical experience did you have?

Though you're burnt out right now, if you add to your ECs, you'll probably have a great shot next cycle. Why not try again if this doesn't turn out, you've gotten this far.

 

[Food]

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I am going to hell for this.

Oh no, I clearly understand why many future doctors "can't help" being *******s. What I don't understand is why they accept these people.

 

[Food]

dude.... you're 20. Take some time (year or two) and do something interesting and then reapply. As someone who was in a similar situation, trust me, you'll get in.

I appreciate it. But I'm not sure I want to do it anymore. I had false hopes about a lot of things, about how applications are, and even how medical school will be. I've realized I was wrong about it. I don't care for it anymore. So good bye to medicine for me.

 

[Siverhideo1985]

Oh no, I clearly understand why many future doctors "can't help" being *******s. What I don't understand is why they accept these people.

Am I the only one that has trouble counting the stars to figure out what the insult was meant to be?

I do realize that I sank pretty low with the above post, but that's really the image that popped into my mind.

In all honesty, being angry with schools or yourself won't help...whether you drop out of the process or not. I applied my first round and didn't get a single interview...maybe half the secondaries. I tried to improve every aspect of my application and then reapplied and got in...its just about how bad you want this and how much you are able to be self-critical. Maybe once your anger has subsided you'll decide that you will get back up on the med school horse (no matter how broken and decrepit it may be) or you will find a different horse altogether.

Good Luck either way

 

[Food]

To be completely honest, you have an awesome MCAT (congrats, btw), and low average GPA, and your ECs seem to be a little on the low side. On your MDapps you said you shadowed some docs, but how many hours did you end up with? Besides the Lions Club, what other volunteering did you have? What sort of clinical experience did you have?

Though you're burnt out right now, if you add to your ECs, you'll probably have a great shot next cycle. Why not try again if this doesn't turn out, you've gotten this far.

I've added a ton of ECs this semster and last semester, packaged them into neat little update letters and interest letters and sent them to schools numerous times. I understand the cool response from OOS schools. They get like 9000 applicants. But schools like USF are just messed up. Part of it has to do with their change in leadership during the cycle, and the general disarray because of it.

And for those of you who think that it was my rec letters or essays, I covered those too. I've been on the phone with advisers from some of the schools I applied to. They were favorably impressed with the letters (even though they technically shouldn't tell me). All letters were from classes that had less than 30 people. 1 letter was from a Biochem professor, who I had 2 courses with. 1 letter was from my Quantum Mechanics professor who loved me because I was actually really interested in his field. Point is, none of the people I got letters from would have given me ****ty letters.

As for essays, I had too many people read them for them to be crappy. My pre-health adviser really liked them as well.

Assuming average ECs, below average GPA, above average MCAT, and average essays and letters, this is still ****ed up.

Either way, I don't care. I'm not going to medical school, or reapplying. The fact that the cost of higher education has reached the point that even applying to schools requires some kind of loan, is appalling to me. This system discriminates against people who aren't economically sound. People don't realize what's happened to education in general, and I want no part of it.

 

[Siverhideo1985]

So if you get in at your one school, would you go?

 

[themule]

Part of the process is to weed out those that don't want it enough to jump through the hoops. Personally I spent 10 years and applied 4 different cycles before being accepted this year. Nothing worth doing is ever easy.

 

[Food]

Am I the only one that has trouble counting the stars to figure out what the insult was meant to be?

I do realize that I sank pretty low with the above post, but that's really the image that popped into my mind.

In all honesty, being angry with schools or yourself won't help...whether you drop out of the process or not. I applied my first round and didn't get a single interview...maybe half the secondaries. I tried to improve every aspect of my application and then reapplied and got in...its just about how bad you want this and how much you are able to be self-critical. Maybe once your anger has subsided you'll decide that you will get back up on the med school horse (no matter how broken and decrepit it may be) or you will find a different horse altogether.

Good Luck either way

A lot of images are popping into my head now, but if I published any of them, I would probably cause a lot of people to drop hot coffee onto their privates.

Sure I'm angry. But I'm also considering the possibility that this isn't for me. If I could, I would happily donate my MCAT scores to anyone whose only hurdle is MCAT, and probably deserves medical school more than I do.

 

[Food]

So if you get in at your one school, would you go?

yes

 

[Food]

Part of the process is to weed out those that don't want it enough to jump through the hoops. Personally I spent 10 years and applied 4 different cycles before being accepted this year. Nothing worth doing is ever easy.

I've been more than willing to jump hoops. I may not have been as willing as you clearly were, but I am pretty sure I was more willing to jump hoops than people who don't get interviewed.

 

[Siverhideo1985]

Part of the process is to weed out those that don't want it enough to jump through the hoops. Personally I spent 10 years and applied 4 different cycles before being accepted this year. Nothing worth doing is ever easy.

Whoa...I am very impressed. Congrats!!

 

[themule]

Dude you came on here to rant. You've done so. Now suck it up and get on with your life. If you let this be the end of medicine for you then so be it, that's your choice no one is going to hold your hand the rest of your life. Step back awhile and review your life and then make this decision. No decision should be made in anger.

 

[fizzle]

The fact that the cost of higher education has reached the point that even applying to schools requires some kind of loan, is appalling to me. This system discriminates against people who aren't economically sound. People don't realize what's happened to education in general, and I want no part of it.

True...I'm getting tired of hearing everyone in the process say, "Oh, it's okay, you'll make lots of money anyway." I want to go into academic medicine, but with all these assumptions that everyone seems to make about doctors and that I'm planning to go into some high-paying specialty and private practice, I'm probably going to be way too deep in debt to consider an academic career.

 

[flip26]

OP's example offers proof that a high MCAT does not make up for a low GPA.

Anecdotally, I have been reading lots of posts and MDApps for people with GPA in the sub 3.5 range, and they are having very little success this cycle. Med schools just don't need to dip down that far in the applicant pool.

OP compounded his error with a late app.

Also: why in hell did you withdraw pre secondary from 16 schools, including an instate school? Not only that, you withdrew from schools where you may have been competitive, more than most of the ones you stayed with...

A perfect example of an applicant who over estimated his competitiveness due solely to a high MCAT that will never compensate for low grades, sketchy ECs, and a late app...

 

[Food]

OP's example offers proof that a high MCAT does not make up for a low GPA.

Anecdotally, I have been reading lots of posts and MDApps for people with GPA in the sub 3.5 range, and they are having very little success this cycle. Med schools just don't need to dip down that far in the applicant pool.

OP compounded his error with a late app.

no, it does not offer any kind of "proof". That you can be so *****ic to suggest so, is pretty surprising. There is no "proof" because you cannot predict this process. You're making it sound like you can assign a pattern to the way this works. You can't.

However, there's data that confirms what you are saying.

You don't need to come on here and give "anecdotal" evidence. You can look at AAMC's matrix of acceptances and see that people in my bracket have a 66% acceptance rate, whereas people in a 32-33 range / 4.0 GPA have a 90% acceptance rate (or something). So thanks for contributing nothing, *****.

Also, good job referring to me in third person. That really completed the effect.

 

[RoadRunner17]

OP's example offers proof that a high MCAT does not make up for a low GPA.

Anecdotally, I have been reading lots of posts and MDApps for people with GPA in the sub 3.5 range, and they are having very little success this cycle. Med schools just don't need to dip down that far in the applicant pool.

OP compounded his error with a late app.

Even though I'm one of these people with a sub 3.5 GPA with multiple acceptances, I agree with the above post. Your chances simply are not very good with a GPA below 3.5. A lot of the process is indeed numbers-driven, but it's not wholly so - don't lose sight of that.

 

[binko]

Again, the mantra of 2000 rings true...

Blame Florida!

 

[Food]

OP's example offers proof that a high MCAT does not make up for a low GPA.

Anecdotally, I have been reading lots of posts and MDApps for people with GPA in the sub 3.5 range, and they are having very little success this cycle. Med schools just don't need to dip down that far in the applicant pool.

OP compounded his error with a late app.

Also, what error? Me having a low GPA is an "error"? Or me applying with a low GPA is an "error"?

 

[Food]

Even though I'm one of these people with a sub 3.5 GPA with multiple acceptances, I agree with the above post. Your chances simply are not very good with a GPA below 3.5. A lot of the process is indeed numbers-driven, but it's not wholly so - don't lose sight of that.

So why do schools like Drexel have average matriculant GPAs of 3.55 or so? Based on MSAR, this is the case with a sizeable minority of schools.

What both of you are saying is too general. I agree I made a mistake in applying to schools whose average GPAs were too high. But there are schools whose average GPAs really aren't that high.

 

[flip26]

Also, what error? Me having a low GPA is an "error"? Or me applying with a low GPA is an "error"?

Your "error" is that you completely misjudged your competitiveness...your high MCAT could never make up for a low GPA, thin ECs, and a late app...you withdrew from 16 schools pre secondary, and some of those are very kind to OOS applicants...

 

[235009]

...so much anger

....oh well...don't wait for any of us to try and stop you from giving up on med school...good luck being an MCAT instructor....and possibly getting banned from SDN

 

[Food]

OP's example offers proof that a high MCAT does not make up for a low GPA.

Anecdotally, I have been reading lots of posts and MDApps for people with GPA in the sub 3.5 range, and they are having very little success this cycle. Med schools just don't need to dip down that far in the applicant pool.

OP compounded his error with a late app.

Also: why in hell did you withdraw pre secondary from 16 schools, including an instate school? Not only that, you withdrew from schools where you may have been competitive, more than most of the ones you stayed with...

A perfect example of an applicant who over estimated his competitiveness due solely to a high MCAT that will never compensate for low grades, sketchy ECs, and a late app...

I'm willing to bet your MCAT was low. Lots of people like you come and make these comments, it's quite common.

Anyway, I've already had this discussion in Jan., Feb., and March., on SDN, and thankfully people much more perceptive than you are, were able to contribute. I already know what you are telling me. I am not here to argue about OOS acceptances. I was woefully short-sighted. Which is why, if you read my OP, you'd have seen I accepted full responsibility.

But as far as state schools go, I think USF and Miami should have interviewed me, given the number of updates I sent them, and improvement in fall semester grades.

You, by the way, are a perfect example of a ***** who doesn't have the decency to directly address the OP and writes as arrogantly as he accuses "the OP" of being.

 

[Food]

Your "error" is that you completely misjudged your competitiveness...your high MCAT could never make up for a low GPA, thin ECs, and a late app...you withdrew from 16 schools pre secondary, and some of those are very kind to OOS applicants...

I completely agree, and accept full blame for that error. I already acknowledged that back in December. Like I said though, I was satisfied with staying in my state, and was not interested in OOS, and halfway through, decided not to apply anymore OOS.

 

[Food]

...so much anger

....oh well...don't wait for any of us to try and stop you from giving up on med school...good luck being an MCAT instructor....and possibly getting banned from SDN

I'm no longer an MCAT instructor. I gave it up to spend more time improving grades.

 

[flip26]

I'm willing to bet your MCAT was low. Lots of people like you come and make these comments, it's quite common.

Anyway, I've already had this discussion in Jan., Feb., and March., on SDN, and thankfully people much more perceptive than you are, were able to contribute. I already know what you are telling me. I am not here to argue about OOS acceptances. I was woefully short-sighted. Which is why, if you read my OP, you'd have seen I accepted full responsibility.

But as far as state schools go, I think USF and Miami should have interviewed me, given the number of updates I sent them, and improvement in fall semester grades.

You, by the way, are a perfect example of a ***** who doesn't have the decency to directly address the OP and writes as arrogantly as he accuses "the OP" of being.

Buh bye...we hardly knew ya...

 

[Food]

In any case, a mod can feel free to delete this thread. You are right, it's a rant thread. I have nobody to talk to, and no outlet for anything. I've nearly lost all motivation for everything, and I apologize, but aggression can be tonic

thanks to all who care enough to argue back, and congrats to all of you who will be in medical school this fall

 

[alanine1985]

Man you gotta put this whole thing into prospective if you really are 20 like your MD apps says then you need to realize that most schools want students a little older. I know I had to try twice to get in and so do many people these days so you need to do whatever to make yourself better for next cycle which starts in a few months and you never know you could get off your wait list. Because your numbers are good I would look into all your essays i.e. PS, and secondaries that seemed to be a big limiting factor for me between 1st and 2nd trys. Don't stress it too much you will get in with your numbers you just got to do the easy part in figuring out what the schools your apping to want to hear and then telling them that in your essays and interviews. GL

 

[RoadRunner17]

So why do schools like Drexel have average matriculant GPAs of 3.55 or so? Based on MSAR, this is the case with a sizeable minority of schools.

What both of you are saying is too general. I agree I made a mistake in applying to schools whose average GPAs were too high. But there are schools whose average GPAs really aren't that high.

Sorry, I realize that my post isn't very specific, and even seems to be saying two different things.

Applying outright, with GPAs below 3.5, already puts you at tough odds. I know this very well, because I had to apply to 35 schools to get 4 acceptances with a ~3.3 GPA and 35 MCAT. It is a numbers-driven process, but you need to really sell yourself in terms of fit. I feel that's responsible for the success that I had. Your MCAT score isn't going to do it for you. But I know that you know this. So I feel that with the improvements that you've made on your application, with a focus on the non-academic aspects of your profile, you can make it in if you retool and reapply again next year.

First things first, research your list of schools that you feel you're a good fit for. Apply to those schools. Add some reaches and all of your state schools. Use the lessons you've learned from this past application cycle to your advantage. It's numbers-driven, but not necessarily to the point where your numbers alone will get you in.

This of course assumes that you still want to pursue medicine if your file at UF is not pursued any further. It all depends on how badly you want to go into medicine. Wait and see how you feel a few weeks later..

 

[Siverhideo1985]

a) would you go to the school that you haven't heard from?

b) do you stomp your feet when you write your posts?

 

[87138]

But as far as state schools go, I think USF and Miami should have interviewed me, given the number of updates I sent them, and improvement in fall semester grades.

And there's the primary error most pre-meds make. Besides a general sense of entitlement, most people applying think that they're owed an interview if they hit certain criteria.

The truth is, maybe they just didn't like you. Sucks to hear that in this day and age of coddling the weak, but you have to accept that this kind of thing happens. Maybe your personal statement rubbed a few people the wrong way. You could run a million possible reasons through your mind, but the truth is sometimes people just don't want to interview you. Applicants come on here and complain that the process is random. It really tends not to be, it's just that from the outside, it appears that way.

No one "should've" interviewed you. Yes, your MCAT is good, and I'm sure a lot of your application is fairly solid. But so are a lot of other people's.

The problem is that no one can be truly objective about their own application or performance on the interview trail, try as they might.

 

[fizzle]

And there's the primary error most pre-meds make. Besides a general sense of entitlement, most people applying think that they're owed an interview if they hit certain criteria.

The truth is, maybe they just didn't like you. Sucks to hear that in this day and age of coddling the weak, but you have to accept that this kind of thing happens. Maybe your personal statement rubbed a few people the wrong way. You could run a million possible reasons through your mind, but the truth is sometimes people just don't want to interview you. Applicants come on here and complain that the process is random. It really tends not to be, it's just that from the outside, it appears that way.

No one "should've" interviewed you. Yes, your MCAT is good, and I'm sure a lot of your application is fairly solid. But so are a lot of other people's.

The problem is that no one can be truly objective about their own application or performance on the interview trail, try as they might.

It's hard to cope with the fact that we're paying thousands of dollars and spending a year's worth of hopes potentially for nothing. But ah, such is life 😳

 

[Food]

And there's the primary error most pre-meds make. Besides a general sense of entitlement, most people applying think that they're owed an interview if they hit certain criteria.

The truth is, maybe they just didn't like you. Sucks to hear that in this day and age of coddling the weak, but you have to accept that this kind of thing happens. Maybe your personal statement rubbed a few people the wrong way. You could run a million possible reasons through your mind, but the truth is sometimes people just don't want to interview you. Applicants come on here and complain that the process is random. It really tends not to be, it's just that from the outside, it appears that way.

No one "should've" interviewed you. Yes, your MCAT is good, and I'm sure a lot of your application is fairly solid. But so are a lot of other people's.

The problem is that no one can be truly objective about their own application or performance on the interview trail, try as they might.

I'm usually the person to tell the people these things, and you are quite right, I've spent the entire cycle thinking about the very issues you mentioned. But even I have a limit. After a while, there is nothing but resentment.

The worst thing is the rejection letters. The line where they say "we assure you we considered your file thoroughly". I know for a FACT they did not. I have spent countless hours on the phone with the offices at nearly every school I applied to. The one thing I heard from all of them was that they were not currently looking at my file and had probably cast it aside into "interview pool 2" after their initial review.

I would have been happy with 1 acceptance. If I interviewed somewhere and was rejected or waitlisted, I would understand. I don't deserve a chance at medical school nearly as much as most of you do. But I really expected more interviews, even with my sub-par GPA.

I never felt I was owed an interview. I did my best to get in touch with those schools and find out where I was weak. I did everything to address it. And, unsurprisingly they didn't care. I didn't expect anything different, but it was certainly disappointing.

 

[Food]

a) would you go to the school that you haven't heard from?

b) do you stomp your feet when you write your posts?

Yes, I desperately want to go to the one school that interviewed me. I sent them a letter of intent more than a month ago. I did everything humanly possible to convince them that I would die for their school.

b - no. I've made some holes in my apartment walls though. i do not regret it.

 

[Food]

Man you gotta put this whole thing into prospective if you really are 20 like your MD apps says then you need to realize that most schools want students a little older. I know I had to try twice to get in and so do many people these days so you need to do whatever to make yourself better for next cycle which starts in a few months and you never know you could get off your wait list. Because your numbers are good I would look into all your essays i.e. PS, and secondaries that seemed to be a big limiting factor for me between 1st and 2nd trys. Don't stress it too much you will get in with your numbers you just got to do the easy part in figuring out what the schools your apping to want to hear and then telling them that in your essays and interviews. GL

thanks....

actually I'm 21...will be 22 in september (not that it matters much). I must have done something wrong on MDapps

 

[Food]

It's hard to cope with the fact that we're paying thousands of dollars and spending a year's worth of hopes potentially for nothing. But ah, such is life 😳

and it doesn't anger you in the least bit? It's a flawed system and it's wrong. I understand we have to play by it, but why isn't anyone trying to change it?

why is our society so willing to let everything become a money making enterprise?

 

[Myuu]

thanks....

actually I'm 21...will be 22 in september (not that it matters much). I must have done something wrong on MDapps

I don't think MDapps updates your age automatically. Or at least it didn't the last time I checked...🙁

 

[87138]

I'm usually the person to tell the people these things, and you are quite right, I've spent the entire cycle thinking about the very issues you mentioned. But even I have a limit. After a while, there is nothing but resentment.

The worst thing is the rejection letters. The line where they say "we assure you we considered your file thoroughly". I know for a FACT they did not. I have spent countless hours on the phone with the offices at nearly every school I applied to. The one thing I heard from all of them was that they were not currently looking at my file and had probably cast it aside into "interview pool 2" after their initial review.

I would have been happy with 1 acceptance. If I interviewed somewhere and was rejected or waitlisted, I would understand. I don't deserve a chance at medical school nearly as much as most of you do. But I really expected more interviews, even with my sub-par GPA.

I never felt I was owed an interview. I did my best to get in touch with those schools and find out where I was weak. I did everything to address it. And, unsurprisingly they didn't care. I didn't expect anything different, but it was certainly disappointing.

It's a frustrating process, no matter the outcome, I agree. If medicine really isn't as appealing as you once thought, then maybe going another route isn't a bad idea. But if you do still have the desire, perhaps taking a little time off to step back and see where you could potentially improve isn't a bad idea either. You're young, there's no real rush. Yeah, it's a ****ty process, and expensive too. I had to save up money working and basically put off applying largely because of the cost just to apply/hopefully interview/etc.

I won't pretend to "know how you feel" or use other patronizing phrases. But realize that there are people who have been in worse positions and have gotten in on second/third/eightieth tries. Sometimes you just have to go back to the drawing board.

It sounds like you've been adamant about pursuing this one school, which is good. Maybe it'll all work out anyway and this is all for nothing. But if not, keep your head up, and do your best to figure out what can be done better.

 

[p30doc]

Life is full of unexpected ****, always prepare for the worst. If you really wanted to go into medicine and were only willing to deal with one cycle you should have applied DO as well. I am also disappointed with the lack of love from Florida schools.

 

[nlax30]

Kinda surprised you didn't get any love from the FL schools. FSU is weird in that you kinda have to play their game of rural medicine/primary care focus, but at least would've thought USF and UF. You're right it can be just one big crapshoot and there's no way to predict an outcome.

If it's truly not what you want to do with your life than be thankfully you are realizing that now and not later on when you would've been MUCH more in debt, so could be a blessing in disguise. If it's mainly emotion making this decision than at least you're still young enough to approach this process again if you decide to.

Just out of curiosity, especially if you wanted to stay in state, why didn't you apply to the 2 DO schools here?

 

[flip26]

I'm usually the person to tell the people these things, and you are quite right, I've spent the entire cycle thinking about the very issues you mentioned. But even I have a limit. After a while, there is nothing but resentment.

The worst thing is the rejection letters. The line where they say "we assure you we considered your file thoroughly". I know for a FACT they did not. I have spent countless hours on the phone with the offices at nearly every school I applied to. The one thing I heard from all of them was that they were not currently looking at my file and had probably cast it aside into "interview pool 2" after their initial review.

I would have been happy with 1 acceptance. If I interviewed somewhere and was rejected or waitlisted, I would understand. I don't deserve a chance at medical school nearly as much as most of you do. But I really expected more interviews, even with my sub-par GPA.

I never felt I was owed an interview. I did my best to get in touch with those schools and find out where I was weak. I did everything to address it. And, unsurprisingly they didn't care. I didn't expect anything different, but it was certainly disappointing.

PSST...your GPA did you in...med schools don't have time mid cycle to hold your hand and tell you why they didn't interview you...some, but not many, will talk to you after the season is over to discuss your strengths and weaknesses, but no school will do it during the cycle.

Rewrite your PS, get some new letters, and submit in early June, and really figure out your competitiveness with an MSAR when choosing schools to apply to, and you have a shot. You need to apply to a minimum of 30 schools and fill out every secondary you are offered...

And apply to a few DO schools...

 

[Siverhideo1985]

b - no. I've made some holes in my apartment walls though. i do not regret it.

You might, if you were the one who put down the deposit for the place 😀

Also, I would get some anger management....just a suggestion, though

 

[chiz2kul]

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I am going to hell for this.

What a jerk.

You might, if you were the one who put down the deposit for the place 😀

Also, I would get some anger management....just a suggestion, though

Really? If you were in your shoes, i'd doubt u'll need anger management right?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a good rant. The OP is mad, and feels justified. Let him rant all he wants. I would rant even more if i were the OP.

 

[Food]

You might, if you were the one who put down the deposit for the place 😀

Also, I would get some anger management....just a suggestion, though

my anger management consists of making holes in the walls in my room. it is slightly less expensive than getting therapy. I've thought about it though.

 

[Vihsadas]

General note: Please guys, let's not try and make light of the situations other people are in. Yes, he's angry, but it doesn't give anyone the right to be completely insensitive. Some of the posts here are downright inappropriate. Please keep it civil.
On the other end, OP I know you're angry but try not to let the comments get to you. Please keep it civil and don't respond in anger.
It sucks applying once and not getting any response. I've been there. In fact, you did better than I did last year. You got one interview.

dude.... you're 20. Take some time (year or two) and do something interesting and then reapply. As someone who was in a similar situation, trust me, you'll get in.

Agree. Do something interesting that you are interested in, keep up with your clinical stuff and volunteering and you will get in. Now, if you are really re-evaluating whether medicine is right for you, that's another story. I just hope when you're a little less emotional you'll think it through and do what's best for you.

i've received the last of my rejections, and still waiting on news from the only school that interviewed me. If it doesn't happen, I'm done with this. This system is broken. I don't care how late I applied, I was no later than half of the people accepted to my state schools. I didn't expect anything from OOS schools, but wtf happened to my state schools? I hate all Florida schools now, except for UF who interviewed me. Especially F--- USF. I don't think I've ever hated a school so much. Complete waste of time doing a bunch of random activities and sending them numerous letters of update/interest.

So if you're looking to apply to USF next cycle, reconsider. They're perfectly willing to accept sub-par applicants from their feeder program, and will prefer them over you, no matter how much interest you show them, or how qualified you are.

Oh, and I have no problem accepting responsibility for how ****ty this cycle was. 99% of the blame is with me. But 1% of this was COMPLETE BS.

It's a tough process man. I've been there, but if you decide medicine is something you want to do, then I hope you re-apply. I think you'll have a solid shot next year.

PSST...your GPA did you in...med schools don't have time mid cycle to hold your hand and tell you why they didn't interview you...some, but not many, will talk to you after the season is over to discuss your strengths and weaknesses, but no school will do it during the cycle.

Rewrite your PS, get some new letters, and submit in early June, and really figure out your competitiveness with an MSAR when choosing schools to apply to, and you have a shot. You need to apply to a minimum of 30 schools and fill out every secondary you are offered...

And apply to a few DO schools...

I disagree with your first and last sentence. It's hard to tell exactly why someone is rejected from medical school, and you can guess at the likely culprits all you want, but that air of authority you seem to speak with is unqualified. There are a ton of people with a similar app to his that got in. I'm anecdotal of that. (2nd time applying no interviews last year). In fact, about half of people with a 3.2 -3.39 and a 36-38 MCAT get in. About 70% of people with a 3.4 - 3.59 and a 37 MCAT get in. The proof is attached (most updated data from the AAMC).

 

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PSST...your GPA did you in...med schools don't have time mid cycle to hold your hand and tell you why they didn't interview you...some, but not many, will talk to you after the season is over to discuss your strengths and weaknesses, but no school will do it during the cycle.

Rewrite your PS, get some new letters, and submit in early June, and really figure out your competitiveness with an MSAR when choosing schools to apply to, and you have a shot. You need to apply to a minimum of 30 schools and fill out every secondary you are offered...

And apply to a few DO schools...

look, i don't need you to tell me my GPA did me in. Why do you think I retook from a 33R? most people thought I was ******ed. I knew my GPA was too bad for a 33R to do me any justice. So I worked my ass off towards a 38. Unfortunately a lot of the med schools think that I was just a good test taker, and didn't put much effort into it, when I don't think I've ever worked as hard in my life.

Some schools will do it during the cycle, if you are determined and crafty enough. They won't do it directly, but several of them have "nice" associated members of the adcom who will communicate via e-mail. I ended up doing this because GujuDoc suggested some names. I thank her for that (I think it's a she, but I could be wrong).

 

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There are a ton of people with a similar app to his that got in. I'm anecdotal of that. (2nd time applying no interviews last year). In fact, about half of people with a 3.2 -3.39 and a 36-38 MCAT get in. About 70% of people with a 3.4 - 3.59 and a 37 MCAT get in. The proof is attached (most updated data from the AAMC).

THANK YOU. That is what I was trying to tell that guy. Apparently he hasn't seen the AAMC data yet.

 

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