DOs with 3.4s/30+ MCATs?

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MedPR said:
People lie about everything, stats included. By nature, people defend themselves and try to seem better than they are. In other words, "I have a 3.0/28, but I'm applying to DO school because I don't want to go to MD school."
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You need to stop this nonsense. Withdraw your DO applications because you clearly don't want to be a part of the profession. And FYI, whatever MD school you get into, will be a backup MD school because it isn't Harvard or Hopkins. That's the ACTUAL reality.

Maybe we should forward this thread to all the DO schools you applied to and see what they think. We have your name, what school you went to, admitting you're MedPR and also the list of schools you applied to. After all, you were ready to save conversations when someone else was talking about a professor and sending it to said professor.
 
lol yeah....right now the president is a democrat...and republicans seem pretty frustrated...
 
serenade said:
It's not lying, it's rationalization and reduction of dissonance. It's simple psychology really, people don't function well when they have internal dissonances or deficits.

Anyway enough of this topic.
Let's talk about how OMM residents are gathering cats to sacrifice to summon A.T Still from the dead so he can declare war on the AMA.
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I said people lie about stats. That's not rationalization or reduction of dissonance. Saying your stats are higher than they are is a lie. Simple.
 
triagepremed said:
you need to stop this nonsense. Withdraw your do applications because you clearly don't want to be a part of the profession. and fyi, whatever md school you get into, will be a backup md school because it isn't harvard or hopkins. That's the actual reality.

maybe we should forward this thread to all the do schools you applied to and see what they think. after all, you were ready to save conversations when someone else was talking about a professor and sending it to said professor.
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TriagePreMed said:
You need to stop this nonsense. Withdraw your DO applications because you clearly don't want to be a part of the profession. And FYI, whatever MD school you get into, will be a backup MD school because it isn't Harvard or Hopkins. That's the ACTUAL reality.

Maybe we should forward this thread to all the DO schools you applied to and see what they think. We have your name, what school you went to, admitting you're MedPR and also the list of schools you applied to. After all, you were ready to save conversations when someone else was talking about a professor and sending it to said professor.
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I'd really like to see you quote me on anything that implies I wouldn't be happy as a DO. Yes, I'm applying to MD as a first choice, but that doesn't mean I won't be happy with my second choice. There is no "DO" profession or "MD" profession. The profession is "physician." Both MDs and DOs are physicians. And yes, I'm aware. Did you miss my mention of Drexel vs Harvard?

All I've done in this thread and others is lay out the facts that many others have supported and claimed as well. DO is backup for a lot of students. DO matriculants have, on average, lower stats than MD matriculants. ACGME programs are both more numerous and more spread out across the country compared to AOA. How does any of that show that I don't want to go to DO school?

Oh, and posting a copy of an uploaded image and saying I'll email a professor is just a tad bit different than actually emailing that professor. It's a forum on the internet. Not a courtroom where I'm under oath. I invite you to be as petty as you wish.

Edit: I'm not seeing why you're so worked up about this.


FutureDoctorrrr said:
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TriagePreMed said:
You need to stop this nonsense. Withdraw your DO applications because you clearly don't want to be a part of the profession. And FYI, whatever MD school you get into, will be a backup MD school because it isn't Harvard or Hopkins. That's the ACTUAL reality.

Maybe we should forward this thread to all the DO schools you applied to and see what they think. We have your name, what school you went to, admitting you're MedPR and also the list of schools you applied to. After all, you were ready to save conversations when someone else was talking about a professor and sending it to said professor.
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Oh man. Are people this petty?
 
MedPR said:
I'd really like to see you quote me on anything that implies I wouldn't be happy as a DO. Yes, I'm applying to MD as a first choice, but that doesn't mean I won't be happy with my second choice. There is no "DO" profession or "MD" profession. The profession is "physician." Both MDs and DOs are physicians. And yes, I'm aware. Did you miss my mention of Drexel vs Harvard?

All I've done in this thread and others is lay out the facts that many others have supported and claimed as well. DO is backup for a lot of students. DO matriculants have, on average, lower stats than MD matriculants. ACGME programs are both more numerous and more spread out across the country compared to AOA. How does any of that show that I don't want to go to DO school?

Oh, and posting a copy of an uploaded image and saying I'll email a professor is just a tad bit different than actually emailing that professor. It's a forum on the internet. Not a courtroom where I'm under oath. I invite you to be as petty as you wish.

Edit: I'm not seeing why you're so worked up about this.
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The sad part on all this is that you're so oblivious to the way you come off. Then you try to top it off as "I invite you to be as petty as you wish." You know there are people out there that are actually that petty? That would actually end your application cycle like that? Just cool off your internet courage. Stop trying to be the tough guy and condescending to people.
 
There are lots of DOs with 3.4/30 and beyond. There are also lots with <3.4/26. Fact is, once M1 starts you're all the same. If you go in as a cocky 3.4/30 and don't study hard, that 3.0/21 working his/her ass off is going to do better than you presuming they're halfway intelligent. I don't remember if I read it on SDN, but there is a school of thought that says "go wherever is cheapest". In other words, med schools are all the same. You'll be a doctor in the end. For me, that's priority #1. It should be for you too.
 
MedPR said:
There are lots of DOs with 3.4/30 and beyond. There are also lots with <3.4/26. Fact is, once M1 starts you're all the same. If you go in as a cocky 3.4/30 and don't study hard, that 3.0/21 working his/her ass off is going to do better than you presuming they're halfway intelligent. I don't remember if I read it on SDN, but there is a school of thought that says "go wherever is cheapest". In other words, med schools are all the same. You'll be a doctor in the end. For me, that's priority #1. It should be for you too.
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lol funny you should say this since you're essentially arguing against this in the other thread.

TriagePreMed said:
The sad part on all this is that you're so oblivious to the way you come off. Then you try to top it off as "I invite you to be as petty as you wish." You know there are people out there that are actually that petty? That would actually end your application cycle like that? Just cool off your internet courage. Stop trying to be the tough guy and condescending to people.
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I completely agree..,
To MedPR, if this is the way you come off as to people online, you may want to think twice before you say anything during your interviews (just a friendly tip) 🙂...
 
Cloud 9 said:
lol funny you should say this since you're essentially arguing against this in the other thread.



I completely agree..,
To MedPR, if this is the way you come off as to people online, you may want to think twice before you say anything during your interviews (just a friendly tip) 🙂...no one likes an arrogant premed.
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Not sure where I've ever argued against that. It's been my point and my opinion for some time now.
 
You will let this thread die.....
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Lol, now everyone's going after MedPR when he's represented his ideas(very similar to mine) in a MUCH more tactful way. See, you really can't win with people who hold this mindset.

TriagePremed would be one of those I would classify as delusional. Like MedPR stated, there is only one profession and it's called physician. Apart from OMM instructors and the physicians holding high office in the AOA, hardly anyone uses OMM in practice which is the only distinguishing factor that differentiates DOs from MDs. So seeing that 95% of DOs do not care to use OMM in practice, that would give me the impression that 95% of DOs only wanted to be a physician and only learned OMM because they had to.

It just annoys me that there are so many people who have to resort to the defense mechanism of lying to themselves. What's the point? I believe that I wasn't accepted to an MD school because I should have had better study habits and focus in undergrad so I could have had a more competitive GPA(though a 3.46 isn't bad). Maybe I wasn't smart enough compared to other applicants. In either case, I wouldn't be lying to myself and say I would prefer to go DO because of its inherent, 'intangible' qualities. Whatever the case, I would plan to make sure I work as hard and rise up to my fullest potential.

Why are there so many DOs who state they prefer to be DOs when the only thing distinguishing the two degrees is OMM(which no one uses) and lower average stats for the latter?

I know we should all just really let this thread die but the only reason I was bringing up my last point again is because I really hope I don't meet people at school who are so hung up over their degree and instead are more honest about their situation, admitting that they might not have had the best stats during the application cycle but are now just trying their hardest to be physicians from the school that gave them the opportunity.
 
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Darkskies said:
Lol, now everyone's going after MedPR when he's represented his ideas(very similar to mine) in a MUCH more tactful way. See, you really can't win with people who hold this mindset.
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I think it's just the way the ideas are presented that warrant the type of replies that are being said. Most things can be said in a way that aren't laced with derogatory and condescending remarks hidden throughout.
 
Darkskies said:
Lol, now everyone's going after MedPR when he's represented his ideas(very similar to mine) in a MUCH more tactful way. See, you really can't win with people who hold this mindset.

TriagePremed would be one of those I would classify as delusional. Like MedPR stated, there is only one profession and it's called physician. Apart from OMM instructors and the physicians holding high office in the AOA, hardly anyone uses OMM in practice which is the only distinguishing factor that differentiates DOs from MDs. So seeing that 95% of DOs do not care to use OMM in practice, that would give me the impression that 95% of DOs only wanted to be a physician and only learned OMM because they had to.

It just annoys me that there are so many people who have to resort to the defense mechanism of lying to themselves. What's the point? I believe that I wasn't accepted to an MD school because I should have had better study habits and focus in undergrad so I could have had a more competitive GPA(though a 3.46 isn't bad). Maybe I wasn't smart enough compared to other applicants. In either case, I wouldn't be lying to myself and say I would prefer to go DO because of its inherent, 'intangible' qualities. Whatever the case, I would plan to make sure I work as hard and rise up to my fullest potential.

Why are there so many DOs who state they prefer to be DOs when the only thing distinguishing the two degrees is OMM(which no one uses) and lower average stats for the latter?

I know we should all just really let this thread die but the only reason I was bringing up my last point again is because I really hope I don't meet people at school who are so hung up over their degree and instead are more honest about their situation, admitting that they might not have had the best stats during the application cycle but are now just trying their hardest to be physicians from the school that gave them the opportunity.
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Bro you started this thread because you were hung up about the DO degree and everyone here has been practically begging you to take your damn acceptance and run with it. You have been pointing out how amazing of a human being you are and how you think you need to go MD. You are the one hung up about the degree. Everyone else here was number 1 telling you that you are a little dirt bag because of your arrogance and number 2 telling you that you can achieve the same goals with a DO degree. Again, you continue to refuse to acknowledge that you were being immature and that you've been saying some pretty ignorant things.

You need to stop calling people you disagree with delusional. Triage definitively does not need me to defend him because he is a big boy but I am saying this to you because you make yourself look extremely stupid when you say "oh these people just don't listen to logic! They are delusional!" over and over again. You are trying to tell us we are disrespecting you because you asked a dumb question and then you come on here and tell people they are delusional and lying to themselves. You are acting like you know something about us that we don't know about ourselves and that usually does not go over well with people. Just quit saying that you are the embodiment of facts and truth and the whole world is delusional. That makes you sound like a prick as it is obviously not true.

I hope you grow a little before you enter medical school. If you sound anything like this in real life and act as entitled as you have acted here you are gonna run across a lot of problems. Go tell you attending he is delusional because you made a mistake and he is pointing that out to you. You will be fired. Tell your patient he is being irrational because you know something about them they don't know and you are truth itself so they should just blindly listen to you. It doesn't work. People won't listen, they will shut down and never come back to see you. You are going into the business of helping people, get a hold of your arrogance. You are not helping anybody including yourself when you speak with your high and almighty way of speaking.
 
Darkskies said:
I think I can come to terms with being a DO but after reading the comments on this thread and the posts on other threads in this forum, one of the biggest headaches I'll have to face are DO students who have a chip on their shoulder and must respond to it by deluding themselves on how unique their degree is/how they only wanted DO/how they are different from MDs instead of admitting that it was a chance for them to go to medical school and that their stats were not good enough for an MD at the time of application(though they might have taken advantage of their DO degree and improved greatly in med school). On top of that, they think I'm the one with the chip on my shoulder, lol. It's a really immature and unintelligent way to act and think, guys. Instead of making me feel better it makes me feel worse since only a certain type of person who can't think rationally would act this way. I really hope I don't run into a lot of these types of people at school if(most likely I will be) I go DO.
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I honestly don't think you will run into too many of these people, at least I haven't. You will be so busy doing other stuff that you won't give a **** about discussing that. It might be in the back of your mind for a month or too, but I can almost say with certainty, you will not care anymore and you will see how silly the letters are. (not to take away from either MD or DO, but just sayin)

Just come to the DO school with an open mind and you won't regret the decision, at all.
You may even end up happy after all. 😱 even with that ugly DO behind your name 🙄😉

Good luck OP!
 
MedPR said:
I only want to address a few parts of your post. There is always a more tactful way to say something, but I don't think it's necessary in a situation like this. For the most part I think people were offended because, as you say, not everyone has accepted that they are below average statistically. However, I don't think it helped that your original post was written in a way that seemed like you thought you were better (though you explicitly stated that wasn't your intention) than them because of your higher-than-average MCAT score.

If memory serves me correctly, you and I are part of a small pool of pre-DO SDNers who have a low GPA rather than a low MCAT. No, I'm not saying that high mcat/low gpa is better than low mcat/high gpa. I'm saying that it is less common on this forum. I guess it's a touchy subject, though like you, I don't really understand why. My GPA sucks because of my own mistakes. If someone wants to throw their Ivy school BS Biochem degree and 4.0 in my face, that's quite alright with me. Not everyone shares that opinion though. In fact, it seems that most people are automatically offended by someone with higher stats.

Again, I agree with you regarding not disguising myself or my GPA as something else. I have a low GPA. It is what it is.

And I agree about your DO vs MD argument. I get that some people apply only to nearby schools/in-state schools and for some that limits their options to DO. However, someone applying to DO all over the country and not MD schools is probably just not competitive and is wisely saving their money.
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I think what I've been trying to convey to both of you guys, Darksies + MedPR is that those numbers don't mean ANYTHING, they are merely a means to an end (and in that case, they mean everything, if that makes sense). I'm glad both of you guys are taking responsibility for your stats, and rightly so. These stats have gained you admission into certain schools. Done.
We should move beyond that.
You are in contention for DO spots, right?
Now it is up to you, do you want to oblige and take advantage of the spot that a DO school granted you, or do you want to defer and try for an MD next year? Weigh the risks and rewards and make an informed decision.

I have already posted as a third year DO student what I think will happen should you decide to take the DO seat. I know other posters came at you at different angles, but it's obvious to see that we all support our profession.

Hope that helps man
 
HalfListic said:
Of you'd like to get a preview of what I'll highlight, ignore the facts and focus on your descriptions, interpretations and assessments. No one has any problem with the facts.
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OP, I hope you understand that...
 
Darkskies said:
I'm seriously not a troll. Read my post history like I mentioned if you don't believe me. I think people on SDN are too quick to brand others as trolls when realistically how many people would go out of their way to create stupid/fake threads?

What are these issues you think I should figure out? Are you just upset that prestige factors into my choice? I'm human. Prestige matters to a lot of people, especially to residency directors. The average DO student has a 3.4/27 MCAT which is much lower than my stats. This is fine but it is also what makes me worry if I am being too hasty in settling for the DO when maybe the MD would only take a little bit more work to obtain(plus the year of loss). I'm just trying to weigh out my options so I can choose the best route for myself at this point especially since the potential negatives of going for the ACP/SMP is another year lost and the bigger issue is that I don't know if I can finance the ACP year(nearly guaranteed acceptance to Tulane but doesn't qualify for federal loans).
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Maybe this will make you feel better. I found this in another thread.
DO Schools with students with the same or higher GPAs than you. Most DO schools have a higher average GPA than yours including the one you are going to.

Touro-Ca: 3.45/3.36/28.90
UMDNJ-SOM: 3.6/3.51/28
NYCOM: 3.6/?/28
Western-COMP: 3.53/3.47/28
DMU: 3.68/3.63/27.3
OUCOM: 3.66/?/27
UNTHSC-TCOM: 3.59/3.49/27
ATSU-SOMA: 3.50/3.41/27
ATSU-KCOM: 3.5/3.4/27
RVUCOM: 3.49/3.44/26.68
Touro-NV: 3.40/3.31/26.6
MSUCOM: 3.6/?/26.49
PNWU: 3.44/3.36/26.39
KCUMB: 3.55/3.51/26
WCUCOM: 3.4/?/26
VCOM-VC: 3.59/3.52/25
VCOM-CC: 3.61/3.55/25
LMU-DCOM: 3.4/?/24
UP-KYCOM: 3.5?/3.4?/24
CCOM: 3.56/?/(28?)
NSU-COM: 3.41/3.31/27 (2014)
LECOM-E: 3.44/3.31/26 (2014)
LECOM-B: 3.48/3.39/27 (2014)
OSU-COM: 3.64/3.58/26.1 (2014)
UNECOM: 3.5/3.45/27 (class of ?)
PCOM: 3.45/3.38/27 (2014)
 
MedPR said:
For the most part this is correct. However, many people do seem to have a problem with the facts.
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That's probably because the posters represented in this thread probably don't have the 'average' DO stats, which proves the OPs original question... yes there are a lot of DO students with better stats. Some DO schools (older, more established) have way better average stats than other DO schools (new) as well.
 
Can a moderator close this stupid thread? A bunch of kids arguing about stuff that dont matter to the real world.
 
Temperature101 said:
Can a moderator close this stupid thread? A bunch of kids arguing about stuff that dont matter to the real world.
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Well, he's got a point. That's sort of what we are trying to convey to the OP... but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
 
psychgirrrl said:
You need to stop calling people you disagree with delusional. Triage definitively does not need me to defend him because he is a big boy but I am saying this to you because you make yourself look extremely stupid when you say "oh these people just don't listen to logic! They are delusional!" over and over again. You are trying to tell us we are disrespecting you because you asked a dumb question and then you come on here and tell people they are delusional and lying to themselves. You are acting like you know something about us that we don't know about ourselves and that usually does not go over well with people. Just quit saying that you are the embodiment of facts and truth and the whole world is delusional. That makes you sound like a prick as it is obviously not true.

I hope you grow a little before you enter medical school. If you sound anything like this in real life and act as entitled as you have acted here you are gonna run across a lot of problems. Go tell you attending he is delusional because you made a mistake and he is pointing that out to you. You will be fired. Tell your patient he is being irrational because you know something about them they don't know and you are truth itself so they should just blindly listen to you. It doesn't work. People won't listen, they will shut down and never come back to see you. You are going into the business of helping people, get a hold of your arrogance. You are not helping anybody including yourself when you speak with your high and almighty way of speaking.
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Agree 100%. Calling people 'delusional' because they do not agree with what you PERCEIVE as the facts is just silly... i think OP was just trying to say that MOST students fall into this category, for which he is probably correct.

OP, talk to a practicing DO physician... and see if that doesn't change your mind.
 
Strange and unholy energies are amassing in Missouri, either Mark Twain is about to be reborn as the next skull rider or the god of OMM is coming to wage a 7 year war....

Be warned.... He will not stop until all your sutures are touched.
 
MedPR said:
I agree, that probably plays a role as far as LBGT rights go, but the people calling her a derogatory term aren't the ones writing the laws. The way she presented her argument led me to believe she was talking about a peer or another random homophobe.

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Yo dogg homophobes do write laws have you ever heard of Rick Santorum? Regardless, you realize that a random calling a GLBT person that name is usually a precursor to getting beat up right?
 
touchpause13 said:
Yo dogg homophobes do write laws have you ever heard of Rick Santorum? Regardless, you realize that a random calling a GLBT person that name is usually a precursor to getting beat up right?
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Did you know he thought Grindr was a coffee app? I guess he missed the 4 warnings about the orientation of the app. Lol

No seriously, this year we had a lot of republican closet cases this year.
 
jumpmanv15 said:
Agree 100%. Calling people 'delusional' because they do not agree with what you PERCEIVE as the facts is just silly... i think OP was just trying to say that MOST students fall into this category, for which he is probably correct.

OP, talk to a practicing DO physician... and see if that doesn't change your mind.
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Agreed. Most DO students fall into the category of lower admission stats than MD students. OP himself is in this wagon. It is however irritating to many that he insists on saying that others are delusional and that he knows all and the rest of us don't. To me it is just problematic that he talking about this category as if he is not included in it and he obviously is and that he belittles this category by saying "Is there going to be anyone with my stats?" It is obvious that there will be people with your stats. There is an average and people who get accepted are factored into this average. If you are accepted it means you either meet or are slightly below or above this average. His GPA, according to the stats you posted is below UMDNJ and his MCAT is above. To me that means he ends up being an average matriculant because his MCAT evens out his slightly below average GPA. He is probably not gonna be the freaking Albert Einstein of his class.

Even if he was, be benevolent and enjoy your experience of meeting people who are different from you. As you can see from SDN we all come from different walks of life and share the common goal of becoming a physician. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with comparing their stats to others. We're people, students, and future doctors we have to be stats for a little bit to get accepted into medical school but don't look at your peers that way. Don't objectify the person sitting next to you in your class, that person probably has a story and some interesting things to teach you and honestly who gives a damn what MCAT score they got? Adcoms do, but that IS NOT YOUR JOB. Or whether they aced chemistry or not. It doesn't matter and you should be worried about whether YOU are acing your classes not if your classmates are up or below your par. I think that's a waste of energy.

I know it's hard to see others in their full dimension but it is a good exercise. You are going to become a doctor, OP. Your patients, your attending, the nurses, everyone around is complex. Stop thinking you are this or that because of these numbers you see. People are subjective and judging all of your future colleagues solely on 2 numbers that are very very very subjective is extremely silly(GPA can reflect retakes, you never know what that person was going through in college or their school had a more lenient grading system. MCAT can be super easy or super hard when you sit down to take it, amount of money spent on preparation, test anxiety, learning disabilities, reading speed...etc etc etc etc). Go to class, meet your peers and don't be the dude who boasts about his undergrad GPA or his intentions to become an orthopod. We all dislike people like that. Take the opportunity to make connections, understand others and yourself a little more.
 
serenade said:
Did you know he thought Grindr was a coffee app? I guess he missed the 4 warnings about the orientation of the app. Lol

No seriously, this year we had a lot of republican closet cases this year.
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Serenade I love your posts.
 
serenade said:
Did you know he thought Grindr was a coffee app? I guess he missed the 4 warnings about the orientation of the app. Lol

No seriously, this year we had a lot of republican closet cases this year.
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Him and Michele Bachmann's husband need to just get it on already
 
MedPR said:
I agree, that probably plays a role as far as LBGT rights go, but the people calling her a derogatory term aren't the ones writing the laws.
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True, but who do the ones writing the laws listen to? The people's prevailing opinion.

If you perpetuate the opinion that DO students are "MD applicant failures and nothing more", which you have implied somewhat in this thread, just be prepared to reap what you sow should you land at an osteopathic institution. Because I guarantee you that you'll go through school KNOWING that you are just as qualified to learn to practice medicine as anyone else; but the opinions you've championed here will be used by others against you.
 
TriagePreMed said:
You need to stop this nonsense. Withdraw your DO applications because you clearly don't want to be a part of the profession. And FYI, whatever MD school you get into, will be a backup MD school because it isn't Harvard or Hopkins. That's the ACTUAL reality.

Maybe we should forward this thread to all the DO schools you applied to and see what they think. We have your name, what school you went to, admitting you're MedPR and also the list of schools you applied to. After all, you were ready to save conversations when someone else was talking about a professor and sending it to said professor.
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Calm yourself defender of osteopathy. Just because a student attends a DO school and does not actively venerate A.T Still with kitten sacrifice does not make them a disgrace to the profession.
 
SLC said:
True, but who do the ones writing the laws listen to? The people's prevailing opinion.

If you perpetuate the opinion that DO students are "MD applicant failures and nothing more", which you have implied somewhat in this thread, just be prepared to reap what you sow should you land at an osteopathic institution. Because I guarantee you that you'll go through school KNOWING that you are just as qualified to learn to practice medicine as anyone else; but the opinions you've championed here will be used by others against you.
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As if.... most law makers stopped listening to the people's prevailing opinion a long time ago. It's become significantly more rooted in ideology and a desire to retain power and make massive amounts of money.
 
serenade said:
As if.... most law makers stopped listening to the people's prevailing opinion a long time ago. It's become significantly more rooted in ideology and a desire to retain power and make massive amounts of money.
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And if they piss-off their constituents passing laws that go against the prevailing opinion, they lose the ability to retain power and make money.
 
SLC said:
And if they piss-off their constituents passing laws that go against the prevailing opinion, they lose the ability to retain power and make money.
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Rather unfortunate that their constituents ( The one's that actually vote) are usually idiots who adhere to simplistic views of the world? The reality is that they just need to say a few key words, like lets get those bad illegals out of this state, or gun rights are good, or our president is a gay communist Kenyan muslim, etc. You get my point. This also not to mention that a good senator need only have friends in high places to buy spam commercials and set the agenda stage for them to win.
 
serenade said:
Rather unfortunate that their constituents ( The one's that actually vote) are usually idiots who adhere to simplistic views of the world? The reality is that they just need to say a few key words, like lets get those bad illegals out of this state, or gun rights are good, or our president is a gay communist Kenyan muslim, etc. You get my point. This also not to mention that a good senator need only have friends in high places to buy spam commercials and set the agenda stage for them to win.
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My point exactly.

Not dissimilar to the simplistic notion that all DO students are "MD rejects". All it takes issue one to make that comment and the rhetoric becomes unstoppable. Truth be damned.
 
SLC said:
My point exactly.

Not dissimilar to the simplistic notion that all DO students are "MD rejects". All it takes issue one to make that comment and the rhetoric becomes unstoppable. Truth be damned.
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Well, it's not simplistic, because the application process is not simplistic. Plenty of qualified DO applicants are well within the averages of MD students, but simply did not have that required luck. So to call them MD rejects is disingenuous since they statwise were above average and way above the 3.5s/28s who got lucky and slipped into MD schools.
 
serenade said:
Calm yourself defender of osteopathy. Just because a student attends a DO school and does not actively venerate A.T Still with kitten sacrifice does not make them a disgrace to the profession.
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So I make a statement about a person acting offensively, therefore a bunch a stuff you just made up? Come on. Stop trolling.


Darkskies said:
Lol, now everyone's going after MedPR when he's represented his ideas(very similar to mine) in a MUCH more tactful way. See, you really can't win with people who hold this mindset.

TriagePremed would be one of those I would classify as delusional.

*Snip*
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delusional because...? Oh that's where the statement stops. You've made quite the point.
 
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Darkskies said:
Lol, now everyone's going after MedPR when he's represented his ideas(very similar to mine) in a MUCH more tactful way. See, you really can't win with people who hold this mindset.
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Actually people have been calling out MedPR for being a royal jerk who continues to target people like JaBoomDay on multiple threads, and harassing them for no good reason. Also because both of ya'll have continued to be condescending, rude, and down right mean to may of the posters on this thread.
 
touchpause13 said:
Actually people have been calling out MedPR for being a royal jerk who continues to target people like JaBoomDay on multiple threads, and harassing them for no good reason. Also because both of ya'll have continued to be condescending, rude, and down right mean to may of the posters on this thread.
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I don't think MedPR is trying to be an ass though. I think he's just taking realism and making it a bit too rough.
 
serenade said:
I don't think MedPR is trying to be an ass though. I think he's just taking realism and making it a bit too rough.
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Maybe so...

I kinda think he's just trying to repeat things he's heard from others that he looks up to.


Normally, I haven't seen him be this tactless :shrug:
 
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