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Discussion in 'Pre-Podiatry Students' started by footpainhealer, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. footpainhealer

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    Have any of you seen dr_limbreaper on instagram?

    Jason (@dr_limbreaper) • Instagram photos and videos

    You can view his profile if you click the link, even if you dont have an insta. He's a vascular surgeon based in california.

    He seems to be doing a lot of diabetic foot care, like amputations and debridements.
    I thought podiatrists are supposed to do these things????? I really hope this is a one-off case and not the future of foot care. What the hell will we have left if ortho takes bones and vascular takes diabetics. lol

    There's a video of him on "medicaltalks" account of him doing a guillotine amputation (with a metal string) of a foot if you want to check it out. Its super cool. lol
     
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  3. GypsyHummus

    GypsyHummus 5+ Year Member

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    Podiatrists do nothing that is unique. Nails and corns? PAs/NPs can do that. Ankle replacements? F&A ortho has it covered. Ingrown toenails and warts? FM and IM can do that.

     
  4. footpainhealer

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    I knew that they CAN do those things, and that's not an issue for me at all.
    However, if, in this day and age of tighter budgets and greater needs of more revenue, they are ACTUALLY PERFORMING these procedures, then I think it's fair for people who are in podiatry or looking into podiatry to be alert (maybe even scared) about "not having anything left on the table" so to speak.

    P.S. I am still 100% going into podiatry and not a fear mongerer. lol. I just like bringing forth facts/observations and having a discussion about it with my peers.
     
  5. PashaOdesit

    PashaOdesit Nobel Prize Recipient Gold Donor Classifieds Approved

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    there will be enough work for everyone. In most career fields there is overlap and still there is job for everyone who wants to work.

    Unfortunately wound care and diabetes is getting worse, so there will be need for all providers in the near future.
     
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    smurfeyD 2+ Year Member

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    This is why new attending always get on here after a year or so with their first and talk about their frustrations. Its a lot more bread and butter than people realize, not only because thats what is most common, but also because a lot of times its more profitable.
    i'm sure it'll be fine; medicine is impossible to predict the future
     
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  7. PashaOdesit

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    thanks for this source. I have watched it.
    But it's not like pods amputate legs every single day anyways. Most pods spend 1-2 days in or at most anyways. I personally would prefer to save limbs rather than cut them. There are many patients with onset diabetes that will need my help to take care of their ulcers and save their limbs.
     
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    Here's the metal string amputation. It's 2 parts, hover over the actual video and the arrow to click right will appear to see the second part.

    BTW, IDK if I am allowed to post this on here or not. lol

    It's graphic AF
     
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    I have watched it. it's interesting, but I don't think pods perform these often or at all.
     
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    I know this might be a stupid question, but do pods wear stethoscopes?
     
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  12. DexterMorganSK

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    I'm not going to wear it around my neck but I will have a pair either in my white coat or scrubs (I would do the same even if I was an MD/DO student), esp during Internal/EM Med rotations.

    The current state of a patient's cardiovascular health goes a long way in preventing, diagnosing, and treating lower extremity related pathologies.
     
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  13. AudiLova619

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    This also might be a off topic question, but do pod residents and M.D or D.O residents make around the same? Like 60-80k?
     
  14. DexterMorganSK

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    more like $40-70K, but yes, similar to MD/DO.
     
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  15. PashaOdesit

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    Pods earn 40-72k. That info is biblically available. I have seen a lot of 50s for MD/DO residencies. Average is around 55k
     
  16. Prehealth1011

    Prehealth1011 2+ Year Member

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    I'm not sure how moonlighting works in Podiatry but many MD/DOs moonlight after their intern year and make ~100k.
     
  17. PashaOdesit

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    most residencies list all their stipends on their websites. I have looked at a ton of them and most start at about 50k for first year and end about 60s.
     
  18. Weirdy

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    .........you're in for a world of hurt if you're only doing this for the ego.

    Best of luck.
     
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    Ummm excuse me, but I will be called Dr. Mr. Surgeon of foot and ankle-ness thank you very much. And all the hot nurses will want my slightly overweight physique because I will be a surgeon and be rolling around in cash money and be super respected as a pillar of the community.


     
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  20. AudiLova619

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    What makes you think I am doing this for the ego? These are general questions that I wasn't sure about.
     
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  21. med2345

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    Gypsy with your constant negative podiatry humor you’ll be pulling any woman in town.. lmao *facepalm*
     
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  22. GypsyHummus

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    Hey, if you cant laugh at yourself, what can you laugh at?

     
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    Moonlighting isn't included in that. I wasn't refuting that the MD/DO residents make in the ~50k range. Simply pointing out that a lot of them earn extra from moonlighting which isn't listed in those websites.
     
  24. GypsyHummus

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    Im actually hoping to marry a Podiatrist. I hear they give excellent foot massages.

     
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  25. med2345

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    Not sure but sure as hell sounds cliche enough for me that I can’t disagree
     
  26. med2345

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    Oh.. what about a urologist?
     
  27. PashaOdesit

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    and ENT
     
  28. footpainhealer

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    I don't think anyone pursuing podiatry has a big ego. People with true big egos don't settle. If they are pursuing becoming a doctor, they will do whatever it takes to be a specialist in something that society in general considers "upper echelon" or "high class". Podiatry is not one of those things. lol Rather, those of us pursuing podiatry tend to be down to earth and more humble so to speak. It's one of the things I like about podiatry in fact.
     
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    It's funny you mention the "Dr. Surgeon of f/a". Alot (everyone I have seen atleast) of the pods that are trying to gain social media recognition (instagram) put that on their bio. There's even one that says "Harvard-trained Foot and Ankle Surgeon" I saw. Some Persian or maybe arab dude in the east coast.
     
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  30. med2345

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    I just noticed this yesterday on IG lol and they are all DPMs not orthopods... well they aren’t lying I guess
     
  31. Weirdy

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    Fair enough. I'll give you benefit of the doubt. It was based off a series of questions you asked:

    No, being in a January class or starting later has nothing to do with your residency choices. They like high GPA + first time board pass + team player attitude.

    No, we may not use stethscopes that much compared to MD/DO, but we still need to be able to take blood pressures without electrical help. Checking radial, brachial pulses and using the sphygmomanometer as well. If you are on call during an ER rotation, maybe you'll wear it around.

    Residents are paid pending on the location. Some in the more expensive cost of living have higher pay scales around 60-70k. Some in lower cost of living see anywhere from 35-50k. Look it up on the CRIPS/CASPR positions. They explicitly state pay. Each year or seniority nets an increase. Some also pay for conferences and certifications.

    I call it as I see it. If I assumed too much about you then I apologize. I've seen enough pre-pods pull the exact same thing. When school starts, they may as well be wearing a bright neon vest that says "I am here for the wrong reasons". It shows in your character, how you talk, how you interact with the class.

    Fair enough. Its also one of the main reasons why I picked podiatry. So far its continued to be true. A majority.
     
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    True, but I also came upon an actual F/A orthopod (MD) that has the same thing in his bio. He's probably not too pleased that DPM's also put it. haha

    I wonder if the brand recognition of the Harvard trained F/A DPM gets him more patients than the average pod. It's not considered a great program from what I found, but the name "Harvard" has some powerful implications so who knows.
     
  33. ldsrmdude

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    Residents are generally paid based their PGY- year, with MD/DO being paid the same as DPM within the same hospital system. The DO residents at the hospital I did my residency at got paid the exact same as I did, assuming the same year of residency. It’s not based on location really, but simply on whatever the individual hospital system wants to pay. I had residents in hospitals a few miles away that made 10k less a year than I did, just because we were at different hospitals.
     
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    Vascular surgeons probably do more amputations than podiatrists, and certainly more whole-foot or below-knee amputations. Many or most states don’t allow podiatrists to do the procedure in the video because most places don’t allow pods to do “whole-foot” amputations. Working together with a vascular surgeon and viewing them as your best friend, not competition, is the best way to provide care for your patients, IMO.
     
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  35. AudiLova619

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    This question might be for another forum, but are there certain surgeries that ONLY a podiatrist could do? Or do most surgeries concerning the knee down overlap with orthopedic surgeons or other surgeons.
     
  36. AudiLova619

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    As a pre-med who is considering options, I just wanted to get more info/clear things about the career. Not to create or boost an ego.
     
  37. ldsrmdude

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    There are some surgeries or procedures that podiatrists probably do more of than other providers (and that may be regional) but I can’t think of anything that we do that is something another surgeon or physician couldn’t do. We can argue who does it best or who should be doing the procedure, but I don’t know if a Podiatry-specific surgery.
     
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