Dr. murdered during routine exam

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Such a sad sad story. I really feel for his wife and kids, I can't imagine what they are going through.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=8972137


Newport Beach Police said a man suspected of fatally shooting a doctor was cooperating with investigators.


Authorities are continuing their investigation regarding the shooting death that occurred in the Hoag Health Center at 520 Superior Ave. at about 2:45 p.m. Monday.

Officers detained and arrested Stanwood Fred Elkus, 75, of Lake Elsinore, in connection to the shooting. Elkus was taken into custody without a struggle after officers found him in the room where the shooting took place.

Urologist Dr. Ronald Gilbert, 52, of Huntington Beach, was shot six to seven times in the torso in a patient exam room on the building's second floor. He was declared dead at the scene.

The entire medical office was put on lockdown in the moments after the shooting.

According to Kathy Lowe of the Newport Beach Police Department, Elkus has remained cooperative throughout the investigation. Lowe said officers searched Elkus's home late Monday night and found new evidence that might help uncover a motive. But as of Tuesday morning, the circumstances leading up to Gilbert's death remained unclear. Police did not immediately confirm whether Elkus was Gilbert's patient.

"It's going to be part of our ongoing investigation to determine the exact motive for this crime," Lowe said.

Newport Beach police would not elaborate on how the suspects knew each other but Gilbert's coworkers say Elkus was the doctor's longtime patient. Wednesday Matt Murphy, the prosecutor handling the case, said Elkus was not Gilbert's patient. Murphy said police were investigating whether Elkus was seeing any other doctors at Hoag Health Center.

Hoag Hospital President and CEO Dr. Richard Afable said neither Elkus nor other patients filed complaints in the past involving Gilbert.

"We have not received any complaints about Dr. Gilbert's care," Afable said. "He was, again, a very highly competent and a well-respected physician here. There are many people who are grieving."

Coworkers and friends described Gilbert as an all around good family man who was very involved with his synagogue and dedicated to helping the sickly.

Gilbert was a husband and a father of two. He was set to celebrate his 53rd birthday Wednesday.

Elkus is a retired barber. He lived in the same home in Lake Elsinore for 20 years. Neighbors described him as a friendly man who in recent years complained of prostate problems. He underwent surgery at least twice.

"He never really said whether it was a surgery that didn't work out, he just [said] don't ever go to the doctors for a prostate ever again," said neighbor Sherry Martin.

In a statement earlier Tuesday, Dr. Afable said: "The Hoag Hospital family is devastated by the senseless act of violence against Dr. Ronald Gilbert, our former chief of the Department of Urology who was on staff at the hospital for nearly 20 years," the statement read. "Dr. Gilbert dedicated his career to serving others. He was admired, respected and beloved by the Hoag family and will be deeply missed. Dr. Gilbert joined Hoag's staff on November 2, 1993 and served as the chair of the Urology Department from October 1998-September 2002."

The statement continued and sent condolences to Dr. Gilbert's family, staff, friends, patients, employees and medical staff.

Nurse Megan Mehan, an employee at the building, believes safety should be of utmost importance for hospitals now more than ever before. She suggested adopting medical detectors as a minimal safety measure.

UC Irvine medical student Brenton Alexander felt sympathy for both the suspect and the victim.

"I kind of felt sad for everyone involved," Alexander said. "I never felt angry I just felt sad."

The aspiring premedical student said most physicians pursue an interest in the medical field because of their strong desire to help people.

"We like to deal with patients like this, the ones that are disturbed, the ones that need more time and care," he said. "That's probably the worst part of this is that we get in the field to deal with these people and they end up taking it back on us."

Elkus is being held on $1 million bail. He is scheduled to be arraigned on Wednesday.

Anyone with information regarding the shooting was asked to contact the Newport Beach Police Department at (800) 550-NBPD.
 
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Such a sad sad story. I really feel for his wife and kids, I can't imagine wht they are going through.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=8972137


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Such a sad story reflective of the increasingly violent country in which we live. I've always had things like this in the back of my mind as I pursue medicine. We have to be far more vigilant and cautious of patients/family than our predecessors.

On a side note, I love how "Alexander" goes from UC Davis med student to pre-med in the story. LoL Just another example of how esoteric this discipline and its nuances really are. Thanks for sharing.
 
Such a sad sad story. I really feel for his wife and kids, I can't imagine wht they are going through.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=8972137


Newport Beach Police said a man suspected of fatally shooting a doctor was cooperating with investigators.


Authorities are continuing their investigation regarding the shooting death that occurred in the Hoag Health Center at 520 Superior Ave. at about 2:45 p.m. Monday.

Officers detained and arrested Stanwood Fred Elkus, 75, of Lake Elsinore, in connection to the shooting. Elkus was taken into custody without a struggle after officers found him in the room where the shooting took place.

Urologist Dr. Ronald Gilbert, 52, of Huntington Beach, was shot six to seven times in the torso in a patient exam room on the building's second floor. He was declared dead at the scene.

The entire medical office was put on lockdown in the moments after the shooting.

According to Kathy Lowe of the Newport Beach Police Department, Elkus has remained cooperative throughout the investigation. Lowe said officers searched Elkus's home late Monday night and found new evidence that might help uncover a motive. But as of Tuesday morning, the circumstances leading up to Gilbert's death remained unclear. Police did not immediately confirm whether Elkus was Gilbert's patient.

"It's going to be part of our ongoing investigation to determine the exact motive for this crime," Lowe said.

Newport Beach police would not elaborate on how the suspects knew each other but Gilbert's coworkers say Elkus was the doctor's longtime patient. Wednesday Matt Murphy, the prosecutor handling the case, said Elkus was not Gilbert's patient. Murphy said police were investigating whether Elkus was seeing any other doctors at Hoag Health Center.

Hoag Hospital President and CEO Dr. Richard Afable said neither Elkus nor other patients filed complaints in the past involving Gilbert.

"We have not received any complaints about Dr. Gilbert's care," Afable said. "He was, again, a very highly competent and a well-respected physician here. There are many people who are grieving."

Coworkers and friends described Gilbert as an all around good family man who was very involved with his synagogue and dedicated to helping the sickly.

Gilbert was a husband and a father of two. He was set to celebrate his 53rd birthday Wednesday.

Elkus is a retired barber. He lived in the same home in Lake Elsinore for 20 years. Neighbors described him as a friendly man who in recent years complained of prostate problems. He underwent surgery at least twice.

"He never really said whether it was a surgery that didn't work out, he just [said] don't ever go to the doctors for a prostate ever again," said neighbor Sherry Martin.

In a statement earlier Tuesday, Dr. Afable said: "The Hoag Hospital family is devastated by the senseless act of violence against Dr. Ronald Gilbert, our former chief of the Department of Urology who was on staff at the hospital for nearly 20 years," the statement read. "Dr. Gilbert dedicated his career to serving others. He was admired, respected and beloved by the Hoag family and will be deeply missed. Dr. Gilbert joined Hoag's staff on November 2, 1993 and served as the chair of the Urology Department from October 1998-September 2002."

The statement continued and sent condolences to Dr. Gilbert's family, staff, friends, patients, employees and medical staff.

Nurse Megan Mehan, an employee at the building, believes safety should be of utmost importance for hospitals now more than ever before. She suggested adopting medical detectors as a minimal safety measure.

UC Irvine medical student Brenton Alexander felt sympathy for both the suspect and the victim.

"I kind of felt sad for everyone involved," Alexander said. "I never felt angry I just felt sad."

The aspiring premedical student said most physicians pursue an interest in the medical field because of their strong desire to help people.

"We like to deal with patients like this, the ones that are disturbed, the ones that need more time and care," he said. "That's probably the worst part of this is that we get in the field to deal with these people and they end up taking it back on us."

Elkus is being held on $1 million bail. He is scheduled to be arraigned on Wednesday.

Anyone with information regarding the shooting was asked to contact the Newport Beach Police Department at (800) 550-NBPD.

I think every patient should be disarmed before they enter a doctor's office. Imagine working all your life to become a successful doctor just to be shot 6 times by some nobody and die alone in pain.
 
What a travesty. Killing someone whose primary role is to help you. It's like walking to your local soup kitchen and gunning down the volunteers.

Nobody in their right mind up and kills a doctor during an exam.

r.i.p. Dr. Gilbert
 
The news here reported that the patient had a prostate-related procedure done, and had less-than-satisfactory results. I guess erectile dysfunction/prostate cancer are a dangerous line of work 🙁
 
The news here reported that the patient had a prostate-related procedure done, and had less-than-satisfactory results. I guess erectile dysfunction/prostate cancer are a dangerous line of work 🙁
Yup, especially considering the complications and side effects, including complete impotence and urinary and/or fecal incontinence, the man may've certainly been disgruntled. He could also have had a psychotic break. I hope they publish an update regarding his motive.
 
The news here reported that the patient had a prostate-related procedure done, and had less-than-satisfactory results. I guess erectile dysfunction/prostate cancer are a dangerous line of work 🙁


When reading the story, my first thought was erectile dysfunction and the guy is blaming the doctor. Well, spending the rest of your life in prison won't correct that.
 
🙁

What a tragedy. Hopefully this will at least inspire a few who read/hear of this story to not take life for granted. At least for today I won't complain about anything petty and will try to reflect on how lucky I am.
 
Such a sad story reflective of the increasingly violent country in which we live. I've always had things like this in the back of my mind as I pursue medicine. We have to be far more vigilant and cautious of patients/family than our predecessors.
It's a less violent country. Violent crime has steadily dropped over the last few decades, and other than a blip in the 70s (thought to be coke/drug related), it's quite down over the last century. Homicides have fallen as well, and mass shootings have not become more common (media coverage of them has).

Still quite tragic though. I feel terrible for the urologist's family.
 
It's a less violent country. Violent crime has steadily dropped over the last few decades, and other than a blip in the 70s (thought to be coke/drug related), it's quite down over the last century. Homicides have fallen as well, and mass shootings have not become more common (media coverage of them has).

Still quite tragic though. I feel terrible for the urologist's family.
Wow, that seems so counterintuitive. Did you look up stats recently?
 
It's a less violent country. Violent crime has steadily dropped over the last few decades, and other than a blip in the 70s (thought to be coke/drug related), it's quite down over the last century. Homicides have fallen as well, and mass shootings have not become more common (media coverage of them has).

Still quite tragic though. I feel terrible for the urologist's family.

Just to kind of piggy back on what you're saying, here's a link to the Bureau of Justice Statistics' website which makes your point pretty clear:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/

What's interesting is that it's hard to interpret the decreased homicide rate because of the concurrent progression of how trauma victims are treated.
 
Wow, that seems so counterintuitive. Did you look up stats recently?

Just to kind of piggy back on what you're saying, here's a link to the Bureau of Justice Statistics' website which makes your point pretty clear:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/

What's interesting is that it's hard to interpret the decreased homicide rate because of the concurrent progression of how trauma victims are treated.
Aaaand, answered! LoL I almost expected a little ticker on the bottom of your post to show up and read, "It took 0.9834 second(s) to complete this search." Thanks!
 
Aaaand, answered! LoL I almost expected a little ticker on the bottom of your post to show up and read, "It took 0.9834 second(s) to complete this search." Thanks!

😉

I was actually looking over this website the other day because I was skeptical about an NPR piece I heard while driving home from work. Pretty interesting stuff.
 
The solution to preventing future incidents like this is obvious: clearly all physicians should be allowed to carry while on the job.

(sent from my phone)
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The solution to preventing future incidents like this is obvious: clearly all physicians should be allowed to carry while on the job.

(sent from my phone)

Sarcasm? Surely I hope you are not serious (and I did call you Shirley).

On a side note, I love how "Alexander" goes from UC Davis med student to pre-med in the story. LoL Just another example of how esoteric this discipline and its nuances really are. Thanks for sharing.

You'll notice the quote near the end also mentions that the nurse Megan would like "medical detectors" in hospitals to improve safety. I don't know what medical things they detect, but I'm sure it would go off all day in a hospital!
 
The solution to preventing future incidents like this is obvious: clearly all physicians should be allowed to carry while on the job.

(sent from my phone)

or wear bulletproff vests during all patient interactions.
 
Sarcasm? Surely I hope you are not serious (and I did call you Shirley).



You'll notice the quote near the end also mentions that the nurse Megan would like "medical detectors" in hospitals to improve safety. I don't know what medical things they detect, but I'm sure it would go off all day in a hospital!

Hahaha! I was so distracted by discontinuity that I overlooked that one, nice!
 
What a travesty. Killing someone whose primary role is to help you. It's like walking to your local soup kitchen and gunning down the volunteers.

Nobody in their right mind up and kills a doctor during an exam.

r.i.p. Dr. Gilbert

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