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Do you guys know of any pharmacy students that take prescription meds to ease the anxiety and stress of school? What kinds of meds do they take?
I thought the thread creator was talking about having a prescription for meds. nothing wrong with that. So would you tell your patients, if you need to be medicated to handle your life, maybeyou should just change your life.
I love the people with "Class of 2011" giving opinions on the stress involved with Pharmacy School. Hahahahahahah. Not that your opinions are necessarily bad or incorrect, but how can they be valid without logging a day in pharmacy school yet? Telling people to "get out of the kitchen" before walking into it yourself cracks me up inside.
LOL, good point. On a similar note, can the class of 2011 even say they are PharmD candidates yet? I think of that as the point at which you've passed all the classroom stuff and are out on rotations.I love the people with "Class of 2011" giving opinions on the stress involved with Pharmacy School.
Why are students who haven't even STARTED pharmacy school critizing people who've been going there for a couple of years?
Seriously, why would you do that. I'll tell you what makes a bad pharmacist: Speaking about something which you know nothing about. Get out of that habit.
I thought the thread creator was talking about having a prescription for meds. nothing wrong with that. So would you tell your patients, if you need to be medicated to handle your life, maybeyou should just change your life.
LOL, good point. On a similar note, can the class of 2011 even say they are PharmD candidates yet? I think of that as the point at which you've passed all the classroom stuff and are out on rotations.
Um, in my opinion, the best prescription for stress and anxiety is excercise DUE TO STRESS from SCHOOL. It is normal to feel overwhelmed in school, i felt that way too. But please, that feeling goes away after the exams are over or you graduate. Then real life begins. The patients that come in are sometimes so emotionally disturbed thay they cannot function without these medications. I think your comparing of patients to anxiety from school is a bit off. Now if you are a student with an anxiety disorder or what not, then okay, you had a pre-existing condition. Anyway, the day I graduated Rx school, was a relief and my anxiety from tests and presentations was gone. Just my 2 cents and it's just my opinion! Take care
Dr. M
I've seen pharmacy students on BZDs, SSRI's, effexor, sedative/hypnotics, stimulants, and a bunch of other stuff. People handle stress very differently. We spend our time learning about medications and not to be too judgemental. If someone needs these medications I see no problem with them using it. It is no different than anyone else handling a stressful time in their life. Anxiety from school is still real anxiety.
i agree, the desire and the will to be in pharmacy school should be your so called drug. after all you are going for a doctorate, it is not for just anybody who wants to go on a whim.
Besides how ******ed can one be; abusing prescription drugs and becoming a pharmacist does not seem like a good combination. That has failure written all over it. As a pharmacist, you are supposed to prevent addiction if you see it, not support your own.
but benzos and stimulants? Why take adderall to study? To me, if you aren't ADHD and you take stimualnts to study, there is something wrong.
One girl even had insulin, I think she was abusing it to keep her glucose in check so she could study.
What a weak minded girl. I always say, if you can't keep your glycemic state under control, get out of the kitchen. I believe everyone should just exercise to keep their glucose straight, that's what I always do. Sounds like this young lady is just taking the easy way out, and probably deserves to be expelled. Pharmacy schools really need to start drug testing.
Well, if we are talking about abusing for fun, then i would go with alcohol and probably marijuana, but I am sure this is the same for the whole population regardless of what school you are in.
For school purposes, i would say adderall, and then benzo's and beta blockers.
For general personal health it would be antidepressants.
Alot of you seem very judgemental about this. My school could be different from everyone elses, but to me those of you that really dissagree seem really nerdy and probably not cool. This just comes from my experiences in school and knowing alot of people on alot of different things. People that don't socialize or hang out with others generally don't find this information out and live in a niave world. I am not saying taking stuff is right, but lord alot of people could have anxiety disorders or need antidepressants. its not that uncommon.
One girl even had insulin, I think she was abusing it to keep her glucose in check so she could study.
chill out and don't worry so much about grades....it's college, not the end of the world. if you get a bad grade, go back to your professor, figure out what you did wrong, learn something.
grades are not that important, your sanity is....relax!
My original post never said anything about abusing drugs. I simply wanted to know if anyone knows anybody that legally used drugs in a responsible manner to ease the stress of school. Nothing illegal, not abusing anything.
I love the people with "Class of 2011" giving opinions on the stress involved with Pharmacy School. Hahahahahahah. Not that your opinions are necessarily bad or incorrect, but how can they be valid without logging a day in pharmacy school yet? Telling people to "get out of the kitchen" before walking into it yourself cracks me up inside.
I abuse Starbucks. Does that count as a drug? It darn well should.
I abuse Starbucks. Does that count as a drug? It darn well should.
I love the people with "Class of 2011" giving opinions on the stress involved with Pharmacy School. Hahahahahahah. Not that your opinions are necessarily bad or incorrect, but how can they be valid without logging a day in pharmacy school yet? Telling people to "get out of the kitchen" before walking into it yourself cracks me up inside.
What a weak minded girl. I always say, if you can't keep your glycemic state under control, get out of the kitchen. I believe everyone should just exercise to keep their glucose straight, that's what I always do. Sounds like this young lady is just taking the easy way out, and probably deserves to be expelled. Pharmacy schools really need to start drug testing.
One girl even had insulin, I think she was abusing it to keep her glucose in check so she could study.
I abuse Starbucks. Does that count as a drug? It darn well should.
Wouldn't she want to stay in the kitchen in case she needs a quick bite to eat?....Maybe I have not logged enough days yet to understand huh?
Do you tell all your patients they can get through life without these meds?I am merely stating that you can get through pharmacy school w/o taking these meds.
Do you tell all your patients they can get through life without these meds?
If validity of my comments and opinions are based upon "logging a day in
pharmacy school" I guess in your eyes my comments are valid, I am "logging" days in pharmacy school this summer, taking pharmacy course sequence this summer in an accelerated fashion to lighten the load for next year and because I had nothing to do this summer.
The comment "get out of the kitchen and head to the bar" was meant to be taken light heartedly, emphasis on the "head to the bar" part so settle down...
If validity of my comments and opinions are based upon "logging a day in
pharmacy school" I guess in your eyes my comments are valid, I am "logging" days in pharmacy school this summer, taking pharmacy course sequence this summer in an accelerated fashion to lighten the load for next year and because I had nothing to do this summer.
Let me tell you I will not be cracking up inside until I get your stamp of approval on all this.....
And I do believe if you enter into something new and it drives you to the point where you need to be medicated then it might be a good idea to see if there is anything you can do in your life to help the situation do not rely only on the medication.
In my opinion that is universal in life, and pharmacy school falls under universal so..........maybe it was valid , but who knows....
12345 -" So would you tell your patients, if you need to be medicated to handle your life, maybeyou should just change your life."
Is that what I said? The OP was asking for opinions so I gave mine, I didn't say I was going to attack patients need for medication, only fostering the idea that there are other solutions. My question back to you...Are you going to blinding dispense to your patients and not try to offer advice and solutions that could help better their lives?
I love the people with "Class of 2011" giving opinions on the stress involved with Pharmacy School. Hahahahahahah. Not that your opinions are necessarily bad or incorrect, but how can they be valid without logging a day in pharmacy school yet? Telling people to "get out of the kitchen" before walking into it yourself cracks me up inside.
i know this is directed at me. So i will give it a shot. I know that i have really not learned anything yet, but with everything else that i have done in my life i understand that this will not be easy. Just like graduating from college was no walk in the park, there are going to be times where pharm school will be the same way. That being said, you are right i am blind to the truth of what pharmacy school is really like.
However my response is based on morality and not personal experience. As a drug store company, would you like to know the very people that should be protecting prescription drug abuse are also part of the problem? Which also probably gives rise to higher drug costs. As a student, would you like to know another is taking something that could possibly enhance their performance? Or as someone who wants to be in pharm school but didn't get in, knowing that there are weak minded individuals that abuse drugs, when they wouldn't? How about your family, future wife, kids knowing that your career could be in jepardy, because if i was in charge i know i would not appreciate knowing that my pharmacists are abusing prescription medication.
You know, you are right, i don't have a lot of pharmacy school experience. But don't treat me like i am ignorant, idealistic and oblivious. i see people taking meds as a cop out, they are looking for the easy way out. You are no better then the guy buying 300 dollars worth of hydrocodone. After all, i do hold a degree, which ironically, due to the way pharmacy schools are set up, is more then a lot of people can say. What my education so far has taught me is to have morals and a good head on my shoulders. Sorry that i hold other fortunate souls who got in to the same standards. I know for UB that for every one that they accepted, 3 were interviewed, and about 15 applications were reviewed, if you aren't serious about it, there are others who would love to take your spot.
Well, you gave it a shot. However, you are still missing the boat in my opinion, as you insist upon speaking about prescription drug abuse when that is in no way what the conversation is about. Maybe that is what your conversation is about, but it is not how I interpreted the opening of this thread. To me, it seems that some of you are so judgemental, that you could never objectively look at a situation and come to a rational conclusion, which is a prerequisite to being a good pharmacist.
Scenario time: a second year pharmacy student is coming up on finals week, and because he/she is so worried about getting through what most consider the toughest part of a college's curriculum, can't seem to get any sleep. She goes to her primary care provider, explains the situation, and they agree that stressful situations in life tend to be one of the biggest causes of insomnia. The physician tells the patient that she can try diphenhydramine or doxylamine, and the student says that they just do not get the job done. Finally, the physician and student decide a short course of lorazepam might be in order to help with sleep/anxiety.
The student walks into your pharmacy, and upon finding out this patient is a pharmacy student, what do you do? Tell the patient she should be getting high on life or pharmacy school and refuse to fill? Tell him/her to go exercise it off or suck it up? I don't know, I would probably empathize with them, give them some information on sleep hygiene, counsel them on the proper use of benzodiazepines, and ask her to call or come back in within a few days and let me know how things turn out. But that's just me.
To you, this patient is a danger to the public? Is lacking morals? Should be removed from pharmacy school because they just couldn't handle it? Please. Maybe I am missing something, but I think you are just failing to grasp what the original poster was asking about. I am sure there are posts to follow explaining that this situation is not what you were talking about, but I would assert to you that that is exactly what this thread is about.