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DVM's Who WON'T Euthanize?
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No, and I said this in another one of SeaWorldVet's threads where david said the same thing. You're correct - you only need to be a resident for 12 months prior to the beginning of classes for the term that you want to begin. I went through the process in FL when becoming a resident for UCF in-state tuition.
http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/residency/qualifying.html
Now, people said the same thing to me (snidely last year) about CA, that I wouldn't be a resident by Fall of 2008 because I wasn't here a year before applying to school. Lo and behold, here I am paying in-state tuition for my MS, even after they reviewed my documentation and saw the dates on my stuff (September of 2007). 🙂
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Yeah, I stand correct on that on. Sea World will be good as long as she establishes residency a year before she would start class.
The professional school application only asks if you will qualify as a resident for the term you are applying for, and not at the time of applying.
The professional school application only asks if you will qualify as a resident for the term you are applying for, and not at the time of applying.
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SeaWorldVet Wrote: What do you mean by one of 16 seats? Is 16 the number of OOSers UF accepts? If so, that won't be a problem b/c I'll be a FL resident; I'm FL-bound!S
No, UF does not have a set amount of OOS seats. Last year, they accepted a total of 17 OOSers, of which 8 enrolled. The numbers vary by year, but I guess it doesn't matter for you anymore as it seems like you're up-heaving everything to move to FL. Be forewarned: Gainesville is not that close to the beach or Sea World for that matter. 🙂
No, UF does not have a set amount of OOS seats. Last year, they accepted a total of 17 OOSers, of which 8 enrolled. The numbers vary by year, but I guess it doesn't matter for you anymore as it seems like you're up-heaving everything to move to FL. Be forewarned: Gainesville is not that close to the beach or Sea World for that matter. 🙂
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Well I mean you don't have to live in Gainesville to become a FL resident, I mean she/he could live by the beach or Sea World for a year before moving to Gainesville to start vet school. (sounds like more fun to me!) 😀
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Oh, I agree. But, Gainesville is where s/he'd have to go to school for 4 years if s/he actually did decide to move this way. When the UF Pre-Vet club hosted the APVMA Symposium last year, a lot of people came because they thought G-ville was by the beach!
But to add to it all, UF is still highly competitive, even for ISers. I'm keeping my fingers crossed everyday!
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What are you talking about? According to UF Vet statistics, it doesn't seem 'that' competitive. In-state applicants have over a 50% chance of getting an interview and a little under a 50% chance of getting accepted. That sounds awfully good to me. Those are great odds. So, it looks like you don't have to cross your fingers too tight (I'm assuming you're an ISer).
http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/education/dvmadmissions/documents/Stats-2012_000.pdf
(2008 Stats: 52% Interviewed...47% accepted)
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What I am I talking about? Those stats give you a slight idea that just barely skims the surface. When and if you get down here, immerse yourself in the UF Pre-Vet world and you'll see just how competitive it really is. Talk to those who have gotten in to UF, have been rejected by UF, and those who are currently applying to UF, and they will tell you it is competitive. I've got a good GPA/GRE, good experience, good etc., but there are so many great applicants that nobody is ever guaranteed. Yes I am an ISer who goes to UF, and yes I am optimistic that I'll get in, but I am realistic as well.
For IS females (since the vast majority applying to vet school are females, I will assume that you are female...), the acceptance rate is 59/257 or 22.9%.
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That's 47% of those interviewed who were accepted. 80/324 = 25% as a final percentage of in-state applicants accepted.
As one of the 70 or so in-state applicants (out of the 200 who were interviewed) for UC Davis last year who got rejected after an interview...yeah, it is competitive.
http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/studentprograms/class_2012/statistics_2012.pdf
22% is the percentage of in-state applicants at UCD who got accepted last year, by the way.
edit: I also know at least two very dedicated FL residents with good grades and a TON of experience who took more than one application cycle to get into UF. I think one of them took 3, actually.
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Yeah, I was just looking at the %age being interviewed (52%. You guys should know by now that I only pay attn to the positive aspect of things lol) and going from there. I still say a school who interviews 50% of their applicants (IS) and accepts almost 50% of those people is awesome. But, to each their own...
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I don't know what it is about Florida, but they seem to rarely accept first time applicants... ok- i just made that up, absolutely no stats behind it... but....
out of all the prevet students i went to undergrad with the only one who got an interview had applied the year before and everyone else was rejected (including myself). A year later I was still in contact with 2 of those girls and they both applied again and only one got in. Both of those girls had GREAT applications/experience/grades/gre etc and I was shocked when they didn't get in. I've heard that from others too. I'll have to ask my friend who now goes there and see what her classmates had to go through.
As for me... I was very surprised that I was accepted out of state and not even interviewed in state. but i don't care. it was meant to be. i 😍 auburn vet school!
Hey SeaWorldVet... I have a contact at Harbor Branch in Ft Pierce Florida if you want more info. Google Harbor Branch if you haven't heard of them before. Amazing Oceanographic Institution who does a ton of research and this past summer I got to go on a dolphin rescue with them. Pretty sweet. And I'm a Florida native so if you have any questions or anything just ask!
out of all the prevet students i went to undergrad with the only one who got an interview had applied the year before and everyone else was rejected (including myself). A year later I was still in contact with 2 of those girls and they both applied again and only one got in. Both of those girls had GREAT applications/experience/grades/gre etc and I was shocked when they didn't get in. I've heard that from others too. I'll have to ask my friend who now goes there and see what her classmates had to go through.
As for me... I was very surprised that I was accepted out of state and not even interviewed in state. but i don't care. it was meant to be. i 😍 auburn vet school!
Hey SeaWorldVet... I have a contact at Harbor Branch in Ft Pierce Florida if you want more info. Google Harbor Branch if you haven't heard of them before. Amazing Oceanographic Institution who does a ton of research and this past summer I got to go on a dolphin rescue with them. Pretty sweet. And I'm a Florida native so if you have any questions or anything just ask!
Thanks Soffi, I might have to take you up on your offer. Good stuff.
To everyone else, is it just me or do people (in general) enjoy telling people how hard stuff is? We all know it's hard to get into vet school. We all know it's hard to get into med school. Shoot, it's hard to get into any grad healthcare program so just save the "it's so hard" comments. It's pointless...
To everyone else, is it just me or do people (in general) enjoy telling people how hard stuff is? We all know it's hard to get into vet school. We all know it's hard to get into med school. Shoot, it's hard to get into any grad healthcare program so just save the "it's so hard" comments. It's pointless...
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You're dead on sofficat! UF seems to play politics with first time applicants. I have a feeling though, that this policy of making people apply multiple times has changed with the new dean being appointed. I sure hope my feeling is right!
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Just needed to say something and then I'll get over myself...
It's also pointless to say how it's not "that competitive" to get into any of the US vet schools. We all know it is hard, but when you come in here and claim that, eh, it really isn't that big of a deal, you need to be corrected to a degree. I know you have never said that it is "easy" to get in, but I guess what I keep saying is you need to factor in REALISM! Sorry if I sound like an *****...
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If we keep telling ourselves this we can then claim that as the reason when we dont get in the first time around. 🙂 Helps us sleep better at night.
The acceptance rate for in-state males at florida is 37.8% compared to 23.7% for females.
Sex change would help your odds. 😉
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Uuuummm...I never said that. So, before you try to shed a little "realism" on me...re-read my posts! I said UF wasn't 'that' competitive based on the amount of people they interview and how many of those applicants get accepted. You were talking about "crossing your fingers" like there was a 2% chance you would get in. Yes, I'm sure most of the applicants have good stats but still, YOU HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF GETTING AN INTERVIEW!!! How much more can you ask for? And, if you're interviewed, you have almost a FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE OF GETTING ACCEPTED! I mean, come on...that's awesome. I was just shocked that they interviewed such a high percentage of their applicants. Maybe I'm still mentally stuck in pre-med land where 8% (<--don't quote me on that, I think I read it somewhere but I KNOW it's waaaayyy less than 52% 😱) of applicants get interviews...
But, like I said before, to each their own. Focus on whatever makes you happy.
Well, I've had enough of this SDN for a while. Thanks to everyone who answered my questions and contributed to this thread.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!!! 😀**For the record, I just wanted to say that when I say it's not 'that' competitive (UF...for in-state)...I don't mean it's not competitive in the sense that it's really easy to get in. I know it takes A LOT of preparation (i.e. vol hrs, GPA, GRE, LOR's, etc) but once that's knocked out of the way, it's not 'that' competitive from a numbers standpoint b/c you have a 52% chance of getting an interview (and blah, blah, blah. We've already talked about that.). So, maybe I shouldn't say it's "not that competitive", maybe I should say the numbers are in favor for an in-stater! B/c...all grad programs are competitive.
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Know why? Because there are like 10 recurring thread themes on the prevet forum and one of them is: "Ok guys, seriously give it to me straight - How hard is it really to get in?"
And the answer is: Harder than you think. Not impossible, but harder in different ways you hadn't thought of.
Just like the euthanasia can of worms. You walk into thinking about going to vet school with one point of view, then after some research & discussion come to realize your initial attitude was way off! hehe
So we are used to discussions on exactly how hard it is to get in, how long will it take, how hard is vet school itself, how acceptance rates vary between schools, how many schools should you apply to, etc...so the "its so hard" stuff is not pointless, its a friendly gesture. Hey, we don't have to give you any heads up at all.
Just wait til your research leaves you completely convinced that acceptances into your school of choice are random, not based on merit.
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just curious, since the basis of this thread had to do with ethics, how do you justify keeping marine mammals in captivity (at sea world)?
what outweighs the stress of keeping these animals 'imprisoned' when they are typically travelling constantly in a natural environment, disrupting natural social groups, causing unnatural diseases (of the skin and dorsal fins for instance) due to captivity, capture stress, having them perform tricks in the name of 'conservation and education', the list goes on... ? it seems to me marine mammals are a bit different than a lot of regular zoo animals because they are so migratory.
i've always felt uncomfortable with this, and while i know the open sea isn't exactly an embracing mother and survival is brutal, it's still hard for me to understand the rewards of captivity. you make them sick so you have a job? i promise i'm not trolling, but i'm interested in hearing the idealist response.
what outweighs the stress of keeping these animals 'imprisoned' when they are typically travelling constantly in a natural environment, disrupting natural social groups, causing unnatural diseases (of the skin and dorsal fins for instance) due to captivity, capture stress, having them perform tricks in the name of 'conservation and education', the list goes on... ? it seems to me marine mammals are a bit different than a lot of regular zoo animals because they are so migratory.
i've always felt uncomfortable with this, and while i know the open sea isn't exactly an embracing mother and survival is brutal, it's still hard for me to understand the rewards of captivity. you make them sick so you have a job? i promise i'm not trolling, but i'm interested in hearing the idealist response.
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so true! I am still baffled by the schools I got into and the schools I did not get into. Furthermore, I am baffled by friends that were waitlisted at my school who had ten times the application I did. And the one who is a 'cock-eyed optimist' was absolutely crushed when she didn't get in because she knew she had a great app and that WSU 'isn't that competitive' (ha!) I was sure I wouldn't get in 1st try so I had this great back up plan if I didn't and when I got in I was so suprised it was great. But the back up plan definitely softened the blow of the first rejection letter I got. Being realistic is a far cry from being a downer. Also, in my interview group last year there was a guy who was sure he'd get in and later the dean of admissions mentioned that attitude was a put off and part of the reason he might not have received an offer. Those of us who have been there, done that and are now doing it are the ones who can really attest to how random and messed up admissions are. But AGAIN as I said, it's your dream so go for it (just be a little careful about over confidence!)
