EC's and such.

[hooraycoconuts]

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Not the normal "what to do for EC's?!" but rather how do people verify anything? Like, you know how all your EC's and shadowing and such are on your resume. How do people even check to see if you've actually done them? I know you have contact info and stuff but still. What if some dishonest person just makes stuff up and make them a way better candidate than you are?

 

[homeslice]

Not the normal "what to do for EC's?!" but rather how do people verify anything? Like, you know how all your EC's and shadowing and such are on your resume. How do people even check to see if you've actually done them? I know you have contact info and stuff but still. What if some dishonest person just makes stuff up and make them a way better candidate than you are?

This happens ALL the time and it sucks, but you just have to try not to worry about it. If you just focus on doing YOUR best and try to make yourself a good candidate usually you'll be fine.

 

[pcproduct]

I'm guessing most schools don't check. I remember my younger sister lying about her ECs and work experience in high school so she could go to UGA for undergrad. 🙄

 

[miko]

I think it's best to get an LOR from an EC supervisor, especially if it deals with pharmacy. That way, you'll have one up over the person who lies about it and has no way to substantiate it.

 

[aboveliquidice]

Not the normal "what to do for EC's?!" but rather how do people verify anything? Like, you know how all your EC's and shadowing and such are on your resume. How do people even check to see if you've actually done them? I know you have contact info and stuff but still. What if some dishonest person just makes stuff up and make them a way better candidate than you are?

There is a certain amount of inflation that occurs - But I have found that the people that are okay with lying typically have a other character flaws - they absolutely come out during the interview.

Do not lie about your background - it would almost certainly lead to your rejection.

 

[microkosm]

Many EC's are probably exaggerated or completely fabricated and unfortunately admission committees don't have the resources to verify everything. They probably randomly check most applications and follow up on anything that's considered significant.

 

[confettiflyer]

This is interesting, I just read something a month or two ago regarding undergraduate admissions at the University of California. Apparently, they pull a random sample of applications for extra verification, and send over a letter asking to verify the activity.

Apparently the bar is really low (a simple letter/phone call), but some students go overboard with it.

Here's the article if you're interested, I would be surprised if pharm schools didn't institute some sort of verification measure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/18/local/me-ucfraud18

 

[hardcorepianist]

This is interesting, I just read something a month or two ago regarding undergraduate admissions at the University of California. Apparently, they pull a random sample of applications for extra verification, and send over a letter asking to verify the activity.

Apparently the bar is really low (a simple letter/phone call), but some students go overboard with it.

Here's the article if you're interested, I would be surprised if pharm schools didn't institute some sort of verification measure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/18/local/me-ucfraud18

I agree. I am sure pharm schools have some sort of similar verification measure but they just don't tell you. When applicants receive their rejection letters, they may think it's because they applied late, didn't have the grades, or didn't do well on the interview, however, the reasons may be due to that they lied about some of the things they put on the application and the admissions committee found out (and of course school is not going to tell you that you got rejected because you lied, just as in the scenario of applying for a job and you lied about your experiences and credentials, you ended up not getting your job offers, and the company wouldn't tell you the true reason why they didn't hire you, other than the generic reason "there were too many excellent and more qualified applicants applying for this position").

 

[aboveliquidice]

This is interesting, I just read something a month or two ago regarding undergraduate admissions at the University of California. Apparently, they pull a random sample of applications for extra verification, and send over a letter asking to verify the activity.

Apparently the bar is really low (a simple letter/phone call), but some students go overboard with it.

Here's the article if you're interested, I would be surprised if pharm schools didn't institute some sort of verification measure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/18/local/me-ucfraud18

They really do not make up a major portion of your score - at Pacific - they make up 1/17th of your score...

The pharmacy community is very small - If I don't know you, chances are, someone I know does. It isn't difficult to learn more about an applicant. You would be surprised at how knowledgeable the ADCOM really is.