Electives in NY

[fiddler1]

Hi all, I'm new here.
Can anyone recommend good 4th yr anes elective locations in the new york area (manhattan, brooklyn, queens, long island). Thanx

---

Members don't see this ad.

 

[gaspassernyc]

I did one at Mt Sinai, had a really good experience.
But you need to call early bc they fill up real quick

 

[cutdacheese]

yeah, my elective time at Mt. Sinai was really worthwhile. Lots of great people, truly a great working environment... but yeah, there were like 12-15 other students rotating with me during that time. I have heard that to get an interview there, you need to be a rotator... with that being said i know some great applicants who got interview there without rotating.

 

[flipcyde]

Long time lurker here. I'd like to know more about anesthesiology electives in NYC as well. Specifically, is the current Mt. Sinai program "DO friendly"? I know that they have been in the past (rumor has it that the chief resident is a DO), however given the rising popularity in anesthesiology, I am wondering how beneficial it would be to try to secure elective time with them if they are no longer considering DO applicants. SDN has been a great resource of information and I look forward to (finally) contributing to this forum.

 

[jennyboo]

I think if you're going to bother to do an away... might as well put yourself out there and do one that's a bit of a reach for your stats. (However, don't be afraid to phone them up to ask, "Does your program consider DO / FMG / IMG applicants for residency?" if you fall into one of those groups -- no use wasting time and money rotating somewhere that won't consider your app, either.)

Mt. Sinai - Have never heard a negative review of rotations or interviews here. Most residents seem to go into clinical (private) practice. People I talked to really did enjoy their rotations. This is not considered a "top tier" academic program, but still highly desired for happiness factor. You do NOT need a rotation to interview there if you're an average allopathic candidate with above average boards or grades. I liked interviewing here and would've ranked it very highly if I had wanted to actually move to NYC. No DO's present on my interview day that I can remember, but that doesn't mean there weren't any -- I'd email/call their residency coordinator and ask directly.

Columbia - A good fit for someone interested in academic medicine, research, a fellowship after residency, or interested in competitive markets elsewhere afterward (say, if you want to move to California after residency). Rumored to have some hospital-wide issues (the main one being bigness and high volume), but I ranked it pretty highly (top 5). Program has a strong reputation as being "top tier" in research and academics.

Cornell - If you're curious about regional anesthesia, maybe look here.

NYU - Probably not a "reach" compared to any of the above, but I did meet a couple of students who enjoyed their rotation here. Definitely met some DO interviewees on the trail.

Take what I say with a grain of salt -- I didn't rotate at any of them, just interviewed there -- and did not match there. 🙂 Do read the Scutwork.com reviews on all of them and search the forum for old threads -- most residency programs have something to hide, but as an applicant you have to just pick what you want and accept the negatives as well. 😉

 

[cutdacheese]

On my interview day there was both a DO and an IMG student present. However, i rotated at Sinai (also matched there) and i did not see an IMG or DO on the resident list. There are so many rotators from all over the country and it is really losing its NYC's best kept secret status. If you are an IMG or DO, I would not waste time, money, energy by banking on Sinai for a residency spot. I would put my sights on NYU and St. Lukes Roosevelt, both decent residencies in the city. I would venture to say that it is harder to match Sinai than all the other programs in the city due to the sheer volume of people ranking it #1 on their rank lists.

 

[flipcyde]

Thanks to all for your personal insight and honest opinions. Due to personal/family restrictions, I will be limited to the NYC area when aplying for residency. I've been reading the reviews on scutwork and some of the information here on SDN and I believe there are several strong programs that are "within reach" of a competitive DO applicant. I think I will concentrate on those when deciding to my away electives. There are numerous posts on the "big three" in NYC (namely Cornell, Columbia and Mt. Sinai) as well as the other still highly competitive programs (St. Vincent's, St. Luke's, NYU) however there is little written about the programs outside Manhattan. Anyone have information about Maimonides, Montefiore, Downstate or Methodist? Thanks again for all your help!

 

[cutdacheese]

Maimo, Monte, NY Med, and to a certain extent Downstate are open game for anyone... show interest in these programs and rank them highly and chances are you will match there. The PD for Monte is a DO. There are also some very reachable programs in NJ, if you want to go that far. But the point is if you are hardworking, decent applicant - you will be able to become an anesthesiologist somewhere... so take comfort in that and good luck.

 

[sjkpark]

yeah, my elective time at Mt. Sinai was really worthwhile. Lots of great people, truly a great working environment... but yeah, there were like 12-15 other students rotating with me during that time. I have heard that to get an interview there, you need to be a rotator... with that being said i know some great applicants who got interview there without rotating.

Hi,

I'm a foreign student thinking about doing anaes rotation at Mt Sinai. What kind of procedures do you get to do as a student? Has anybody heard about their MICU/SICU rotations?

 

[sweetdreams]

I did an away elective at Mt. Sinai and I had an awesome time (as do many people). Depending on when you rotate the program director will either pair you with an attending or resident. For the early months (July, Aug, Sept) you'll be paired with an attending for the month so that they become familiar with you and will be able to write you a strong letter. You'll still have the option of rotating with another attending who may specialize in a particular area that you may be considering. Overall, the attendings there are very good about teaching. If you rotating in Oct then more than likely you'll be with a resident. Most of the residents are cool and laid back. You'll be "strongly encouraged" to attend the *****ing lectures for CA-1s. Honestly, these sessions were either hit or miss. Grand Rounds every Wednesday were pretty good. While there it will be in your best interest to meet with the PD. He is amazingly cool and laid back. Every resident will tell you that he was one of the main reasons they ranked Sinai highly. If he likes you he'll invite you to work with him in the OR. Of course, he wants to see how strong a student you are. I would recommend doing some serious reading on the case you'll be doing with him. If you have already done a couple of months of anesthesia electives either at your home instit. or away it would not be a bad idea to actually do the simulator elective where you'll work with him one on one creating simulator scenarios and running simulator sessions for 3rd years. There are no required presentations or exams at the end. Support staff are very nice and helpful. You'll be on your own for housing. Try contacting the office of Housing to see if they can set you up with some students who may be subletting during the time you're there. Hope this helps. Try scutwork.com to find out about other NY programs.

 

[sweetdreams]

About procedures: this is of course resident/attendind dependent. Like everything in medicine you''ll have to demonstrate that you are a strong student/ If you tell them that you have already done anesthesia electives where you've become somewhat comfortable starting IVs, intubating, pushing drugs, extubating,etc. they'll give you a chance. If you're good they'll actually expect you to do these procedures. Keep in mind this is an "audition" elective and you'll want to nail many of your procedures. I would not recommend doing this rotation as your first anesthesia elective.