Engineering or Mathematics majors?

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I'm still debating on which major I want to choose. I love math and figured I might as well major in it but engineering seems to be a bit tempting because I could get a job after I graduate if for some crazy reason I don't get into pharmacy school. Are there any Mathematics or Engineeriing majors here? And if so, do you have any advice? Is one major easier than the other? 🙂

Stormy
 
StormyGirl said:
I'm still debating on which major I want to choose. I love math and figured I might as well major in it but engineering seems to be a bit tempting because I could get a job after I graduate if for some crazy reason I don't get into pharmacy school. Are there any Mathematics or Engineeriing majors here? And if so, do you have any advice? Is one major easier than the other? 🙂

Stormy

So to apply to pharmacy school, you're going to take all the science pre-requisites in addition to the engineering or mathematics courses? 🙂
 
I'm an engineer but I'm going back to school now to become a pharmacist. I can tell you that majoring in math is waaaay easier than engineering, no comparison. True, if you do not for some reason get into pharmacy school, you can get a well paying job as an engineer. However, after working for a couple of years I decided that I would much rather have a stable job in the health field. If I were you I would really decide which you want to be because engineering is no easy ride. I almost DIDN'T want to go back to school now just because I hated engineering school so much. Sorry if this is disappointing, I just wanted to tell you my opinion. Good luck with your decision.
 
starsweet said:
I'm an engineer but I'm going back to school now to become a pharmacist. I can tell you that majoring in math is waaaay easier than engineering, no comparison. True, if you do not for some reason get into pharmacy school, you can get a well paying job as an engineer. However, after working for a couple of years I decided that I would much rather have a stable job in the health field. If I were you I would really decide which you want to be because engineering is no easy ride. I almost DIDN'T want to go back to school now just because I hated engineering school so much. Sorry if this is disappointing, I just wanted to tell you my opinion. Good luck with your decision.

I was an engineer as well. I majored in CS/CSE and minored in Math. I don't think that Math is far easier major than engineering. Upper division math classes are as challenging as engineering classes. If you really really want to become a pharmacist, I am sure you will be; just need to focus on your goal. Major doesn't matter for pharmacy school so long as you can complete the requirements. Math/Engineering are very tough majors so maintaining a good grade would be more difficult.

Anyways, I decided to switch my career to pharmacy in that I couldn't endure the endless overtime I had to put in so as to complete the project in time and you don't get paid for any overtime because you are on salary.
 
I guess math is one of my strong subjects, whereas engineering is very conceptual in nature so it is more difficult to me than math. But regardless, I didn't mean to say math was easy, and I hope my post didn't come across that way.

I also agree that if you focus on being a pharmacist, if that is what you really want, then it will happen. Best of luck. 🙂
 
StormyGirl said:
I'm still debating on which major I want to choose. I love math and figured I might as well major in it but engineering seems to be a bit tempting because I could get a job after I graduate if for some crazy reason I don't get into pharmacy school. Are there any Mathematics or Engineeriing majors here? And if so, do you have any advice? Is one major easier than the other? 🙂

Stormy

I graduated from ucsd with bio-med engineering. If engineering is something you're interested in, pick an engineering concentration that you find most interesting. To go into engineering is a huge commitment. If i knew that i was gonna go into pharmacy when i was a first or even second year in undergrad, i probably wouldn't have done engineering. I mean don't get me wrong, bioengineering was really interesting and i liked it alot, but it's just not something i can do for the rest of my life. I don't know about you, but physics and circuits ( which are huge chunks of EE, MAE, BE, and Structural E... alittle of CSE) were areas that I was not fond of at all. If you want to do pharmacy then stick with bio or chemistry with math as a major and do well in it. Engineering classes won't help you with your grades... or if you do well in them ... it's just unnecessary stress and commitment. Right after undergrad you can probably find a job for 40- 50 K. However, the engineering field is pretty competitive... to be really successful and to climb up the ladder, you would need a Ph.D or a masters in that specific engineering field.
But all in all, if you like a specific engineering field then go for it. 👍
good luck! =)
 
Thanks everyone you've all given me something to think about. I want to be a pharmacist but those what if thoughts got the best of me. So I might just become a chemistry major it seems to have a good amount of math in it. Or Math. 🙂
 
StormyGirl said:
Thanks everyone you've all given me something to think about. I want to be a pharmacist but those what if thoughts got the best of me. So I might just become a chemistry major it seems to have a good amount of math in it. Or Math. 🙂

Upper division chemistry is almost pure math. Physical chemistry classes such as thermodynamics and quantum mechanics were almost pure math. I was busy calculating how much energy it takes to form a bubble. The highest form of math you will use though will be linear algebra only. All useless classes in pharmacy school trust me. If you want to get ahead in pharmacy school, take more classes like immunology, physiology, genetics, molecular biology, and biochemistry.
 
I am a PhD in statistics. The problem is if you major in math, you will have to take abstract algebra and real analysis. They are very interesting and abstract, but for pharmacy? I do not think that you will need to prove whether somehting is Lebesgue integrable or measureable or not? And will you have to show that a set is a sigma algebra? Prove whether the following set is a ring or a group? These type of courses are not easy at all. But it is just like engineering, it is easier if you truly enjoy the subject matter. If you are taking these courses to graduate, then they will seem awful.
If your school offers an UNDERGRAD stat major you will probably have to take one or two semesters of real analysis but no abstract algebra. Real analysis is essentially proving every theorem that you learned in calcs I-III. In some countries Calculus IS real analysis.

Well, if you enjoy this go right ahead!!

Also with math, check out the actuarial field. There are a series of eight exams. To get employed you need to pass two to three. These are very hard. But if you have five years of working experience and don't fail any exam WHILE ON THE JOB more than twice, you can earn what a pharmacist earns or probably even more. If you pass all eight exams and work for a consulting firm your salary will be $120,000. The entry level is more like $45,000-$50000. But that is probably A LOT MORE stress than the most difficult pharmacy school. I will take the first exam in May which is pure probability (calculus based). Warning: you have to know the tricks inside out which are usually taught in a masters level first semester statistics theory course.

And by the way, the pharmaceutical companies do hire PhD-level statisticians. I myself have had a VERY hard time applying to internships at those places. During a phone interview for internship, Merck had even asked me if I did Java software development, which is not related to my major at all! Why? There are international students coming with CS majors ON top of stat majors. That is, an undergrad in CS with years of work experience in wherever, and THEN getting a PhD in statistics. And this is not an isolate incident. Many students are doing this type of thing. So I would really like to work in pharmaceutical company as a statistician but because of my "lack of work experience" it seems impossible for me to even get an internship. Frustrating.

So what do the statisticians earn in the pharm companies? About the same as a pharmacist. The starting for Merck (WITH PHD) and Lilly is $82,000 and for AMGEN and Sanofi-Aventis which is in a higher cost of living area (Thousand Oaks, CA) and (Bridgewater, NJ) respectively, the starting salary is $91,000. And with 5 years of experience along with a PhD you can earn $100,000. So the salaries for statisticians with PhD in pharm companies is about the same as that of a pharmacist.
 
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