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[mkg323]

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Not 100% discounting the possibility that wolves killed zenge specifically to try to put more shade on mkg (however unnecessary that seems to me).

I don't know how else we move past it though. Like, days from now I feel like it would still be a question.

also why would it be unnecessary? I'd expect people to still want to vote for me after D2 but like, Z being dead is like the final nail in the coffin. I'm in the lead right now, and while I've been here, votes are coming in with no defense from anyone who have been village reading me. Besides Samac being silenced, there are a lot of quiet people right now, and the thread wasnt super active yesterday either. Its weirding me out. I feel like the wolves are mostly sitting back and letting us yeet ourselves.

 

[Dinashadow]

Slight Village
Shorty and now Mayo-felt that the fight between DocE and Shorty was most likely to be v.v
DocE- Same as above
LIS- liking logic behind posts and don't remember anything that pinged me while ISOing him
Samac- hoping that she was actually cleared by a seer (also kinda iffy for jumping in April's wagon upon reread)
Cray- appreciating the posts she has been commenting on and that is why I was commenting on her things
Finn- liking the more calming and collected posts. was thinking that if there was a wolf in each area that it was between her and AM but have been feeling better here

Neutral
AM- mostly her usual self but does not quite feel the same as she did in the apocalypse game(that being said, pippy cannot really antagonize her)
Stagg- need to hear/reread more
MKG- voted for her last night just because I felt better about Visc so it was more of a jump to (after Zenge getting shot I am inclined to think I need to move her down though)

Slight Wolf
MsP- Still kind of shaky on the logic on voting for April

I voted April day one just because I was sheeping Samac. Was starting to vote Finn just under the belief that perhaps there was a wolf in each starting district but then quickly jumped off when I was told that was very unlikely. The reason why I was feeling okay about voting of MKG last night over Visc was Zenge's arguments(even though I was still not too sure how I felt about Zenge either)

Gonna take a wee break and start ISOing again. I have been awake for 4 hours but I feel like I just woke up 10 minutes ago.

Any other wolf reads? I have a hard time putting MsP in wolfy territory after the thing with Bob. What are your thoughts on that?

Why would you say this? Are you being serious or snarky?

Every game Barks makes a comment on how I'm sneaky or that she doesn't trust me, so it was snark in response to her saying that.

 

[Cyndia]

Okay back and ready to finish a catch up!

As for the vig shot, I don't know what's been said about zenge the last few pages, but from what I read so far, that kill pick doesn't make sense from a village perspective to me. There were several other sus players that would have made sense way before zig. So I'm leaning wolf vig. If it was a village vig, I know there's been such a big push to use vig shots early, but as I've said before, I really hate it. The only useful village vig shots are when there is an outted wolf, or if there is a big front runner for vote, so that shooting can flip the front runner and and leave room for village to discuss and try another yeet that day as well. Otherwise I think they're absolute crapshoots and hit villagers 90% of the time.

 

[capri1722]

Just that I'm the only one that seems to remember Genny saying she got shot at. which fits pretty well with James Bond

This is an interesting jump. Not that I necessarily disagree with you since I could se the fit, but just that that's the first place you jumped to.

Wait so then who is in your POE? why is there no one that you'd feel confident voting for?

Explained in the same post I was referring to.

if the shot is wolfy, how are you reading me?

Unsure at the moment, was leaning wolf. But the good news is we have the whole day to work that out.

Is this still your plan? Z's only options for PM partner would be Stagg or DocE, how do you feel about them?

If I knew 100% that one of them was a wolf, I would choose Stagg.

 

[sunshinefl]

Why would a village vig mean anything about mkg's affiliation?

Like the Genny quote below, you can easily reason out what it could mean. But unfortunately I can see angles for every possibility

-a village vig could kill zenge because they think he’s barking up the wrong tree of a village mkg
-a village vig could kill zenge unrelated to a wolf mkg
-a village vig could kill zenge being suspicious of both and trying to resolve it for themselves/everyone else
-a wolf vig could kill zenge to throw more suspicion on a village mkg
-a wolf vig could kill zenge to protect wolf mkg
-a wolf vig could kill zenge to give mkg the cover of it wouldn’t make sense to be her
-a 3P vig could have some win condition furthered by shooting zenge

Ok so I have moved alissa village after ISO, her posts just felt decent to me and I liked the re-evaluation of her AM tunnel

I am still going back and forth on cray like every other post. Capri is solid neutral, just got no clue. Stagg is in the same boat. Sporty I'm tempted to move village because I feel like she's a lot more concerned with appearance of being active when she's wolfing than she seems to be here (see: Apocalypse).

So would like thoughts on these players, particularly cray, stagg, and capri, because even rereading their posts hasn't helped me.

Cray is village read
Stagg is village read
Capri is neutral to wolf read

But I should probably think about this more. If Zenge was a wolf vig, they’d know it would make mkg more suspicious. It would really help my thinking if someone would claim the shot if village. But then probably not a good idea to claim the shot if there are more shots left. Idk. I should be working.

 

[finnickthedog]

I'm guessing your first choice was Alissa since your on her again, what about her is still reading wolfy to you?

She hasn't been overtly wolfy. But there was the brief interaction that I didn't like and that's been followed up by periods of absence and then not saying much when she's here.

My vote on her was partly to try to get her talking (which hasn't worked) and partly because a small suspicion is better than what I had for most other people.

I'm a little iffy on capri now though and alissa was voting that way, so I may re-evaluate.

I'm interested as to why Dubz feels better about her since I don't. I can see why someone might have her neutral... I'm not seeing what rings village.

 

[finnickthedog]

Every game Barks makes a comment on how I'm sneaky or that she doesn't trust me, so it was snark in response to her saying that.

Fair enough.

 

[sunshinefl]

Yeet LIS

-LIS- seems to just be tunneling me and not much else, largely absent which may be his normal but I only played 1 day with him in bioshock, and then maybe trying to pocket me when he added the zenge was exaggerating part

 

[finnickthedog]

vote capri

I'm not totally set on this yet, but given all (okay, like two that I saw) the complaints about non-voters I will at least throw something on the board at this point. Can't shake the feeling that she was involved with the shot.

 

[capri1722]

Is this still your plan? Z's only options for PM partner would be Stagg or DocE, how do you feel about them?

but also

• In general, you may choose one other player in your location to communicate with via PM. Choose your companions wisely, because unless they (or you) die or are relocated, you will not be able to open additional PMs. Exceptions exist.

 

[Stagg737]

For now to get a vote out:

Execute MKG

Feel like this would provide a lot of info. However, high chance of moving as I'd like Samac to come back first.

 

[sunshinefl]

View attachment 333989​

"The intel was bad, M. He's dead, but it wasn't him after all."
"What do you mean? What intel? Who are you talking about? And where are you?"
"Doesn't matter where I am. This is taken care of. The leak must be on your side. Get out of the building, do you understand? Get everyone out now."
"Taken care of--Damn it James, when I ask you where you are, you'll bloody well answer me. What are your coordinates?

*Click*

At the crime scene later, among the belongings, they found a notebook full of code -- and bottle of cyanide.

Dead is @Zenge142

Spoiler: An enigma?

ALAN TURING
Who received fully encoded enemy targeting intel each night using hidden keyword ciphers.

IT IS STILL DAY THREE.​

​

Okay I went back to see why WZ said it might be passive, and why MKG said it might be James Bond.

it says a shot rings out, but also there was cyanide there.

and it says the intel on him was bad, so that seems even more like it wasn’t a wolf.

and then it also says there is a leak of some sort.

 

[mkg323]

This is an interesting jump. Not that I necessarily disagree with you since I could se the fit, but just that that's the first place you jumped to.

Explained in the same post I was referring to.

Unsure at the moment, was leaning wolf. But the good news is we have the whole day to work that out.

If I knew 100% that one of them was a wolf, I would choose Stagg.

I was looking at my sparse notes from the beginning of the day, and I had "Genny kill attempt? jailed and shot at, people think jailer is wolf" I think the shots are compatible with james bond, who killed Z. and I was willing to entertain that it was a village vig shot because of the flavor text,
"The intel was bad, M. He's dead, but it wasn't him after all."
makes it sound like they were trying to shoot a wolf but he flipped village, or he wasnt who they were aiming for in the first place

for the bolded, unless I'm missing something your voting for me because you think my flip would give information. I cant find a POE posted by you during this cycle, if you have one could you quote it or update them?

 

[capri1722]

Spoiler: not game related

My street lost power 🙃
So I have no wifi right now
Currently hot-spotting off my phone
Am displeased
edit: it's back now 🙂

 

[capri1722]

I was looking at my sparse notes from the beginning of the day, and I had "Genny kill attempt? jailed and shot at, people think jailer is wolf" I think the shots are compatible with james bond, who killed Z. and I was willing to entertain that it was a village vig shot because of the flavor text,
"The intel was bad, M. He's dead, but it wasn't him after all."
makes it sound like they were trying to shoot a wolf but he flipped village, or he wasnt who they were aiming for in the first place

Ok, this makes more sense. I haven't watched any James Bond movies so the flavor flew right over my head.

Spoiler: Fun Fact (not game related)"

I was almost named after James Bond. My first & middle names would have been Sean Conner if I was born a boy.

 

[mkg323]

but also

But that wasnt a part of his role? so unless theres someone in another group has that ability and has been PMing him, those are the only two we have to work with

 

[Stagg737]

two people that I'm village reading and that I consider to have strong reads in general were voting for mkg, so it started to feel like vis was a counter wagon and I was on the wrong side so I switched.

Who are those two village reads?

Vis had defense of her april vote earlier in the cycle and not being around yeet close to defend honestly made me less sure of my wolf read of her.

No me gusta, IRL stuff is generally NAI as reasoning, like you said almost immediately after this...

Mkg's defense on thread didn't make me feel better about her being village. I feel bad about her irl stuff, but irl stuff is not AI.

I realize the time of absence is different, but not a fan of these almost contradictory thought processes.

Mkg's defense on thread didn't make me feel better about her being village. I feel bad about her irl stuff, but irl stuff is not AI. Also she went from saying "maybe it's best for village if I flip earlier" to then pushing hard to get bread yeeted instead when it was actually looking like she was going to be yeeted. Her reads from yesterday were on people who have barely been posting and yeah I think it's important to pressure those people and sure quiet people can be wolfing, but they're easy bait for misyeet by wolves who are under fire.

I do like this though. Idk if MKG was being a totally overwhelmed noob with mood swings included, or if there's something more, but I also did not like her defense.

I think there was a wolf on the board yesterday and obviously it wasn't vis, so I still think mkg should be flipped.

So are you saying you specifically think MKG is that wolf or just that there was a wolf on the board and MKG is the most likely candidate?

In any case that part isn't really coming into play for me because I don't think the role she gave should be enough to sway anyone either way (and yes, samac did tell me what she claimed). It's believable but nothing that couldn't be a cover.

To clarify, Samac told you what MKG claimed?

She's neutral.

Neutral as in you just don't have a place for her yet or neutral as in you feel she's equally village and sketch?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Neutral as in you just don't have a place for her yet or neutral as in you feel she's equally village and sketch?

Those are the same thing.

 

[mkg323]

For now to get a vote out:

Execute MKG

Feel like this would provide a lot of info. However, high chance of moving as I'd like Samac to come back first.

bouncing off of this
> Z, who pushed my vote is killed mid cycle
> Samac who is reading me village and broke the tie in my favor is silenced this cycle
this is literally a perfect set up to misyeet me

 

[Barkley13]

Stagg is village read

Why is stagg a village read?

 

[LetItSnow]

Yeet LIS

-LIS- seems to just be tunneling me and not much else, largely absent which may be his normal but I only played 1 day with him in bioshock, and then maybe trying to pocket me when he added the zenge was exaggerating part

Yes. I'm both voting you and pocketing you at the same time.

Really?

 

[PippyPony]

Day 3 - Am I Sitting in a Tin Can - Vote Tally

Dina (0) -
Bread (3) - mkg, AM, Cyndia
Sunshine (2) - DocE, LIS
Cray (0) -
MKG (6) - Dina, capri, barks, Dubz, genny, Stagg
Barks (1) - Bobloblaw
Finn (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Sporty
LIS (1) - Sunshine
Capri (1) - Finn

@mkg323 you are in the lead
16/22 voting -- Thank you everyone 😀
Voting closes in 7 hours

Me, loving that there are more votes on the board before 8pm:

 

[Barkley13]

Not really a fan of bread's read list especially after waiting days for it. And the fact that his limited village reads contain a lot of lower posters seems odd to me

Some questions.....

DocE- Same as above

What do you think of people (and I think DocE himself) saying that he would do that as either affiliation? It doesn't seem like a reason to village read him to me

LIS- liking logic behind posts and don't remember anything that pinged me while ISOing him

But what makes him village besides being logical? Can't wolves be logical too?

Finn- liking the more calming and collected posts. was thinking that if there was a wolf in each area that it was between her and AM but have been feeling better here

But what other than the calming and collected tone? Like is there any content within those posts you like or what

 

[sunshinefl]

Why is stagg a village read?

I know I asked on thread if we should give him village cred for his himbo moment and WZ and AM both said no, but I still did.

Yes. I'm both voting you and pocketing you at the same time.

Really?

You could be. I don’t automatically assume everyone who votes me is a wolf. So you could be trying to play up an innocent, misguided villager thing

 

[Cyndia]

Now that I don't have 5000 neutrals I feel comfy posting this. I need to think about the night kills but there are still too many people alive for me to make sense of them (particularly meats and TME)
Someone said something about killing both people involved in an argument. Was that Vis? Hmmm.

Wolf leans
cyndia - some very specific phrasings that pinged me because they were identical to things she said in Bioshock. Recognize this could be NAI. not sure why she was so bothered by samac fishing for the thief after SAR said she strongly suspected it was a wolfy action. some of her posts end of d1 bothered me.
LIS - feels different from Bioshock, wavering on this one because his reaction to my vote caught me off guard
Vis - if it was her that made the comment about the meats/TME kills, feels like a bit of TMI that I've seen wolves slip into discussion before. also what other people have said about the late april vote, but i need to go back and read her explanation.
Bread - just hasn't given me much of anything to work with. not even approaching the bar of his village meta imo.
sporty - drive by commentary and no real pushes. might make more effort as a wolf though.
finn - just on the border between neutral and wolf leaning. feel like she's spent more time talking about how she prefers to play the game than actually playing it.

Neutral and/or Need More Data
alissa - might move to village lean, interactions with AM seemed authentic
mkg - no idea
stagg - where even is he
capri - keep forgetting she's playing. not enough shrugging.
dina - pending

Village Leans
zenge - eh, just a feel
cray - I liked our real-time interactions. suspicion levels for me feel normal. would like to have a better feel for who she is most suspicious of though.
AM - feels in her village range but I'm keeping an eye. Reminder to myself to question later to solidify the read.
Bob - feels nooby village
samac - way more in the spotlight than wolf samac. how does she even keep all those PMs straight
shorty -> mayo - reactions to pushes from doc and others, as well as her takes on the gamestate, felt like village shorty. mayo's entrance to the thread felt pretty good.
genny - also a feel
DocE - I don't remember why I put him here but I'm not gonna let retaliatory feelings affect my instinct read yet
alley - enthusiasm to PM with me read village
MsP - don't like the angleshooting but the excitement about thinking she caught a wolf felt authentic

To clarify on why I was bothered by the fishing - Despite SAR suspecting it was a wolf, I didn't necessarily believe that the thief had to be a wolf at the time. I assumed it could easily also be a villager, and so the clear fishing samac was doing sketched me out a lot that day. Now that april has flipped and it's pretty much confirmed that the other thief is a wolf, it made me give samac several village points for that whole interaction.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I know I asked on thread if we should give him village cred for his himbo moment and WZ and AM both said no, but I still did.

I don't get it. Why override the experiences of people who have played with him before especially when there's more than one reason he could have missed (or "missed") SAR's death?

 

[DocEspana]

Yes. I'm both voting you and pocketing you at the same time.

Really?

It's comments like that which makes me vote for her.

Can we do an old man "wonder twins activate" thing, now?

 

[WildZoo]

also why would it be unnecessary? I'd expect people to still want to vote for me after D2 but like, Z being dead is like the final nail in the coffin. I'm in the lead right now, and while I've been here, votes are coming in with no defense from anyone who have been village reading me. Besides Samac being silenced, there are a lot of quiet people right now, and the thread wasnt super active yesterday either. Its weirding me out. I feel like the wolves are mostly sitting back and letting us yeet ourselves.

Well it would seem more necessary if bread is wolfing, though perhaps too obvious if you go down village. Lots of possibilities here.

 

[WildZoo]

Could just be for the lulz too. Never forget that possibility.

 

[WildZoo]

To clarify, Samac told you what MKG claimed?

Yes

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo I'm too lazy to find your post again and quote it but why do you feel better about alissa? I'm still thinking possible sketch and I'm not seeing anything that makes me rethink that.

Just felt ok about her posts and involvement on ISO, and I thought her backing off her AM tunnel felt natural. It's not my strongest read but it's the way I'm leaning right now.

 

[mkg323]

Well it would seem more necessary if bread is wolfing, though perhaps too obvious if you go down village. Lots of possibilities here.

So you think it’s too obvious for Bread to have something to do with it but not too obvious for me to have something to do with it?

 

[Crayola227]

Da fuq did I come back to?

This is what I'm talking about. If it is a village vig, and I'm leaning that it might be, this is why they should stay holstered.

If the vig is revealed to be village, I will never let you guys forget this as an example of why vigs aren't generally the saviors of the village that some players like to make them out to be (looking at you, AM).

What has me leaning village on this is the timing. This was technically done pretty early in the day cycle, and after a lot of people had taken some kind of a stand. I don't understand why a wolf vig would have had this timing. I guess there could be a wolf vig stuck with a day shot.

The target was a really stupid choice. I'm wondering if we have a noob shooter. Someone who isn't so new that they haven't seen the general advice to do it early in the day cycle for discussion, but a new enough not to know who to shoot.

Can someone help me figure out what kill flavors we've had in write ups?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Da fuq did I come back to?

This is what I'm talking about. If it is a village vig, and I'm leaning that it might be, this is why they should stay holstered.

If the vig is revealed to be village, I will never let you guys forget this as an example of why vigs aren't generally the saviors of the village that some players like to make them out to be (looking at you, AM).

What has me leaning village on this is the timing. This was technically done pretty early in the day cycle, and after a lot of people had taken some kind of a stand. I don't understand why a wolf vig would have had this timing. I guess there could be a wolf vig stuck with a day shot.

The target was a really stupid choice. I'm wondering if we have a noob shooter. Someone who isn't so new that they haven't seen the general advice to do it early in the day cycle for discussion, but a new enough not to know who to shoot.

Can someone help me figure out what kill flavors we've had in write ups?

You're really calling the choice stupid when you were literally trying to initiate a flash wagon on Zenge near EOD last cycle?

I will always say you're wrong about vigs in general though.

Source: the first wolf game you lost this year

 

[WildZoo]

Okay I went back to see why WZ said it might be passive, and why MKG said it might be James Bond.

it says a shot rings out, but also there was cyanide there.

and it says the intel on him was bad, so that seems even more like it wasn’t a wolf.

and then it also says there is a leak of some sort.

To be clear, my comment was about zenge's ability being passive

 

[WildZoo]

So you think it’s too obvious for Bread to have something to do with it but not too obvious for me to have something to do with it?

I think both are possible

 

[Dinashadow]

Who are those two village reads?

It was zenge and barks at the time.

No me gusta, IRL stuff is generally NAI as reasoning, like you said almost immediately after this...
I realize the time of absence is different, but not a fan of these almost contradictory thought processes.

I can see that the way I phrased it is contradictory. Regarding Vis, not only was she not around for most of yesterday, she didn't really do any heavy defending before she left. She commented on her april vote, but DocE was defending her more than she was defending herself.

When I said that about mkg I was trying to point out that the bulk of mkg's defense was that she was busy irl and I feel like a lot of people swayed at voting for her (or moved her village) because of it. Here are a bunch of quotes that I quickly pulled out that showed how heavily she relied on it

Spoiler

I'm saying that I remember the gist of it, but because I haven't been keeping up with my notes I want to go and refresh my memory before I move her into a lean category/give a strong read on her.

for everyone thinking that I’m inactive, your correct, I spread myself a bit thin this week between this, the game night and speed game over the weekend and IRL things going on

Look, I havent had much time but I've given as much as I can without misremembering stuff.

You literally started the argument with a list of people and the number of content posts they made. I've tried to stay active in this thread, but I havent been able to give it as much time as I did Bioshock. I'm on less = catching up more. I dont like to ask questions on things from 10 pages, ago unless I get to the latest page and it still hasnt been answered, and since I'm on less, other people are asking those questions first. I'll have more time tomorrow to be more engaged as I wont be riding, but I really dont think much has changed except my time commitments this game.

Another thing, is that the start of this game, and the discussions at the start were anything but normal, or at least to me. I do not like when things get emotional and heated, and disengage mentally. And a lot of pages of this thread have been hissy fits over how other people like to play, NOT wolf hunting, which I am guilty of doing as well. I'm spread thin right now, and maybe the best thing for village is for me to flip. But I'm seriously trying to give as much as I can right now and will continue trying, which is a lot more than I can say about some people on this thread.

no no no no no. you are not going to pull this BS. you asked for my reads yesterday. If you asked before that then sorry, I missed that. I have had a long day, dealing with things far more important than this game will ever be. I told you yesterday I wanted to ISO Ally and Alissa before giving reads, and I have done ONE. So if you want more than a list of names, tough luck

I 100% believe all these things are true and I'm not quoting them to prove that she's wolfy, just to show that this has been a big part of her defense. It's a good reason why she's probably been less engaged, but not a good defense for why she's not a wolf.

So are you saying you specifically think MKG is that wolf or just that there was a wolf on the board and MKG is the most likely candidate?

Before Vis flipped it felt like there was a wolf on the board between the two of them. Vis flipped village, so now I think it was mkg.

 

[WildZoo]

Like really if it is a wolf vig they could have shot zenge so there would be a bigger push to yeet you (mkg) and then if you flip village we go right back to bread because of the timing, and then hey maybe he's village too. Like 3 for 1 village kill special. I am not saying that's impossible, I'm saying it's a lot to try to think about and I don't know if there is a way forward from here without there continuing to be suspicion on you. I'd rather resolve that now than take that mystery to endgame.

 

[mkg323]

I think both are possible

And what do you think about this being a village vig kill? Am I still needed to flip? I’d like to think I’m more useful to everyone alive than dead, and I’m still convinced bread is a wolf

 

[mkg323]

It was zenge and barks at the time.



I can see that the way I phrased it is contradictory. Regarding Vis, not only was she not around for most of yesterday, she didn't really do any heavy defending before she left. She commented on her april vote, but DocE was defending her more than she was defending herself.

When I said that about mkg I was trying to point out that the bulk of mkg's defense was that she was busy irl and I feel like a lot of people swayed at voting for her (or moved her village) because of it. Here are a bunch of quotes that I quickly pulled out that showed how heavily she relied on it


I 100% believe all these things are true and I'm not quoting them to prove that she's wolfy, just to show that this has been a big part of her defense. It's a good reason why she's probably been less engaged, but not a good defense for why she's not a wolf.



Before Vis flipped it felt like there was a wolf on the board between the two of them. Vis flipped village, so now I think it was mkg.

Ok but earlier you said you didn’t like breads reads list and didn’t feel great about him, so you think we are both wolves then?

 

[sunshinefl]

I don't get it. Why override the experiences of people who have played with him before especially when there's more than one reason he could have missed (or "missed") SAR's death?

Well, I try not to have so many ??? So I resolved him into village read because I believed it. Also since then, I have taken note of when he does comment he seems to shine light where someone’s logic doesn’t make sense.

but my reads are always fluid and not locked in, so it’s not like he’s village forever. I can and do reconsider everyone as new information comes in.

 

[Dinashadow]

Ok but earlier you said you didn’t like breads reads list and didn’t feel great about him, so you think we are both wolves then?

Wait what did my post have to do with Bread?

I don't like Bread's single MsP wolf read which is why I asked him if he had more. I'm also bothered that his votes and reads do not match up. I don't think you guys are w/w though.

 

[WildZoo]

And what do you think about this being a village vig kill? Am I still needed to flip? I’d like to think I’m more useful to everyone alive than dead, and I’m still convinced bread is a wolf

I think it's not. If it is, I don't think it has much to do with your affiliation at all, since they wouldn't have known it.

 

[mkg323]

Wait what did my post have to do with Bread?

I don't like Bread's single MsP wolf read which is why I asked him if he had more. I'm also bothered that his votes and reads do not match up. I don't think you guys are w/w though.

Earlier you posted about it, I’m on my phone and was having trouble finding it so I just attached my question to your post about me.

 

[mkg323]

I think it's not. If it is, I don't think it has much to do with your affiliation at all, since they wouldn't have known it.

Ok but there isn’t anything in the write up that reads wolfy to me, and I’m pretty sure it’s a different kill method? I think there is a pretty good chance this is a village vig

 

[finnickthedog]

@The_Breadmann ever planning to come back and explain why he's wolf reading MsP?

 

[PippyPony]

Day 3 - Am I Sitting in a Tin Can - Vote Tally

Dina (0) -
Bread (3) - mkg, AM, Cyndia
Sunshine (2) - DocE, LIS
Cray (0) -
MKG (6) - Dina, capri, barks, Dubz, genny, Stagg
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Finn (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Sporty
LIS (1) - Sunshine
Capri (1) - Finn

@mkg323 you are in the lead
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[WildZoo]

Ok but there isn’t anything in the write up that reads wolfy to me, and I’m pretty sure it’s a different kill method? I think there is a pretty good chance this is a village vig

Would you expect a mod to take an action from an ambiguous source and say "OH HEY BY THE WAY A WOLF DID THIS"?

 

[mkg323]

Would you expect a mod to take an action from an ambiguous source and say "OH HEY BY THE WAY A WOLF DID THIS"?

No. I wouldn’t expect that. But I think the post was pretty clear that the flip we got - z being village - was not the flip the shooter expected hence the text mentioning bad info/a leak. And that it’s JAMES BOND. Like cmon don’t ignore the info given to you.

 

[WildZoo]

In any case the affiliation of the vig does not play a major part in my vote for you. The fact is there are multiple people who have found reasons to find you wolfy, the one who was pushing it the hardest is now dead and flipped village (with an information role of some sort), and you were the counterwagon to a known villager. Do I strongly feel you are a wolf myself, top of my red list? No, I honestly don't. But I think there's a decent argument for it, and I think this situation needs to be resolved sooner rather than later.