I wonder if Michigan will report online.I'm in MI too, and when I click retrieve scores, there is nothing there. The exam shows as scored, but nothing under retrieve scores.
Congrats to those who just found out!
I wonder if Michigan will report online.I'm in MI too, and when I click retrieve scores, there is nothing there. The exam shows as scored, but nothing under retrieve scores.
Thanks for the info. Do they by any chance give you a score for each domain.
I wonder if Michigan will report online.
Congrats to those who just found out!
I can understand why you feel burnt-out! I know it's probably not what you want to hear, but I would reduce my studying or find a novel way to study the information. For example, maybe have a relative or sig. other quiz you on materials or test questions; break up the pattern you've been studying in. Another tip would be to study in as many different locations as you can.
hey jdoc… i don’t know which prep is best, but i do know that i used the practice tests (9 in all) from psych prep (dr sharon jablon, my new best friend) and Academic Review… plus the free diagnostic test from AATBS… and those practices test were hands-down the most valuable. i also really like the test taking strategies that are worked into the Academic Review audio reviews. i bought all the materials second hand, so i did all the tests paper and pencil, was a bit of a drag to print it all out, plus print out all the answer keys… (literally hundreds and hundreds, maybe 1000, of pages) but, reviewing all of my wrong answers taught me a lot… and at actual exam time, a lot of it seemed very familiar. also, although i don’t recall reading anything about it on this thread, i hear a lot of good things about the taylor study method… plus, they are offering some good short-term (4 month) study deals right now… that’s not necessarily an endorsement… would need to hear first hand from someone who used it… but it seems to be the most affordable.One thing I have learned in this process (I've taken the EPPP twice now) is that people's practice test scores range wildly depending on natural test taking ability. I personally think that in this exam, there are correct answers, answers you would choose in real life, and answers the exam company wants you to pick as the right answer. I personally find it very difficult with so much grey area within both the questions and the answers, that being said, there is nothing I can do about that. I just need to PASS this thing! I have spent so much money on this, spent countless hours studying, and while working with a full caseload. I just purchased an AR ExamCenter package, after using PsychPrep the first two times around and obviously being unsuccessful. I feel SO BURNT OUT, and its hard to not have that affect my mindset as I study. 🙁 I guess I'm looking for feedback, suggestions, or anything that has worked for other people in my boat.
Original Stub: "One thing I have learned in this process (I've taken the EPPP twice now) is that people's practice test scores range wildly depending on natural test taking ability. I personally think that in this exam, there are correct answers, answers you would choose in real life, and answers the exam company wants you to pick as the right answer."
If i was just burnt out with just the studying process, yes that would be solid advice. But when you also see 6-8 patients per day, and are getting paid a meager salary even for a BA level job, that adds to the stress. And I do not have the luxury of having a significant other, or family members to help me finanically or to help me study, because they are all 7 hours away. I moved here for my post-doc and have been stuck here since because of not passing said exam.
I know I am not the first to say this about this exam, nor will I be the last, but its just rediculous what they ask and how they phrase the questions and answers. If there was a delineated clear answer to the questions, I would do fine. Since that's not the case, I have struggled tremendously. This damn test has cost me thousands! Sorry just venting, and I thought of all places, this would be a place of empathetic understanding. Even as psychologists, many choose to stand on the "it was fine" and "I just got through it" soap box, but I refuse to be anything but honest to myself, that this is one bad ass exam that has kicked me to my knees twice now and leaves me further in debt. But I digress...
Mark,
Thanks for your unsolicited psychoanalysis. I am not externalizing blame, I know it was my fault I didn't pass and not the test itself. I'm a realist though and I'm simply stating my opinion of the exam. I understand full well that there are answers that I don't agree with that are the "best" answers on the test. Forgive me if I'm a little frustrated for eating cereal most nights because that's all I can afford. I know that others have had struggles far worse than mine. I just didn't go to school for forever to go into debt for enternity, to make the peanuts I'm getting paid right now. Yes I'm salty but NO ONE can possibly understand what this is like unless in my shoes exactly. I have taken the EPPP twice and each time been THISCLOSE but still not pass. I appreciate your perspective and yes, I agree I need to bolster my test taking skill before taking it for a 3rd time. But can't a doctor of psychology just be pissed at the EPPP testing process?! We are so compassionate and empathetic to our patients, but not so much to each other...
its official! i passed!!
erg923,
I pictured you saying the above in a silk smoking jacket and cigar. Yea, nicey nicey for you that you got so much financial and emotional support. Not all of us are that lucky.
thanks ac123!! how long did you actually have to wait till you got your ny snail mail scores? i know it doesn’t really matter… but i can’t wait to see it in black and white… and get the “parchment” (that’s what the proctor at pro metrics called it… made me laugh!)Way to go! Congratulations Lifepsych!!
hey jdoc… here’s one other thought… i know you have mentioned that you’ve been pounding the books for this damn test for nearly 2 years… and yes, while the research supports paced/spaced studying… a few solid, intense weeks of nothing but test prep (when we’re not working or sleeping… but those are really the only exceptions - sad but true) made me feel like i was ‘bleeding’ the material… forget all that “cramming doesn’t work nonsense,” at least for now. my experience is that the test was more of an intense sprint, than paced marathon. i don’t know if others agree, but doing barely nothing else but study had me crazy, but prepared. i’m pulling for you, i totally get the balancing act/paying dues thing.Lifepsych, thank you for your candidness. I used PsychPrep for a while, did ALL their exams and my scores ranged from mid 50s at the very start to 80-93% at the second and third time taking many of them. Towards the end however, I got a bad taste in my mouth for Dr. Jablon after she tried to gouge me with individual consult sessions at $225 an hour when my practice exam scores were slightly below where they should be. Basically like everything else, it all comes down to MONEY. And as an underpaid unlicensed psychology resident, that's one thing I don't have right now. I do think the practice exams are hands down the BEST way to prepare, but with that, some of the rationales are helpful to understand the answer, while others are more like two sentences that are mearly restating the questions, which leaves me scratching my head and furious with this whole PROCESS. I started studying for this THING about 2 years ago, and of course had lapses in serious study time, but still that's a lot of time and lack of a social life for this F-ing exam.
thanks ac123!! how long did you actually have to wait till you got your ny snail mail scores? i know it doesn’t really matter… but i can’t wait to see it in black and white… and get the “parchment” (that’s what the proctor at pro metrics called it… made me laugh!)
by the way… did you get your fridge fixed!!?😉
Wow, it's been ages since I posted. I have just survived this process.
Anyways, here's my rundown:
-Used Academic Review books and CDs.
-Took a mishmash of practice tests passively which I always did poorly on. Gave up on those because they caused me too much anxiety. (Even though, yes, they are the most useful for studying.) I suck at multiple choice.
-Downloaded the EPPP flash cards for iphone.
-Used the EPPP Fundamentals book the last two weeks to serve as review. (Not the greatest book, but it does help get the job done.)
-Cumulatively studied about 200 hours using the above mixture of things. This worked for me, but your mileage may vary. My 60 hour cram in the last two weeks was probably 90% responsible for my passing. I was pushing awfully close to burn out, so I think more preparation would have been detrimental.
I agree with some that the study companies fear monger a bit to trick you into buying their expensive packages. If you went to a good program with good pass rates, you are probably way more prepared than you think. Don't feel pressured into thinking you must study huge amounts with the "super-mega-awesome Platinum package", but also realize you should get your hands on SOME study material and spend SOME time on this.
I took Big Bertha for the first time on July 28th. The whole exam took me 3.5 hours. I, like most people, spent a good portion of time fighting between two answers. I probably should've used my extra time to take a good look at my answers, but I was burned out and couldn't take another minute. Walked out with a migraine and uncertain if I passed or failed. I guess you could say I was numb.
The test was neither easy nor impossible--easier than AATBS practice questions. I feel like a lot of information was never touched upon and at times, similar questions popped up two or three times. It was definitely an interesting experience, and it's hard to explain what it's truly like taking it. I can't say it was something that's truly the best measure of competence or ability, but it's a good way of reviewing things you've learned.
Fast forward to August 5th, realized that Maryland doesn't use the online reporting. Called the board the morning of the 6th and found out I passed a-ok, not by an amazing score that will shatter records, but comfortable enough. Honestly, as long as it was over 500, I was happy. We are no longer at a point where higher is better, embracing the "good enough" was the key to my sanity.
Since I already passed our Jurisprudence, I was already posted on the verification system by 1PM the next day with my license number. After a seemingly never ending road and 11 months out from finishing my doctorate, I'm officially official.
Good luck to all who are starting the journey or already on it. For those who haven't yet, get it over with as soon as you can while things are still fresh in your mind. The relief of clearing this last hurdle brings a sense of peace after all the years of sacrifice and hard work.
No, I called them yesterday. They have received and processed scores from appliants who took the exam prior to July 31st. They said that the letters have been or will be sent out very soon.Has anyone heard from Michigan yet?
Congrats!Well, I've been on vacation with my sister for 9 days. Each day I sent my husband to the mail box hoping for news. Well we just returned from the airport and checked the mail and the state of Michigan informed me that I PASSED. WOW! What a process. I want to thank each of you for allowing me to lurk and eventually join this forum. The support, understanding, and conversation helped me to build confidence in my approach. Here's what I used:
I used AATBS materials from 2012 , online self pace workshop and Testmaster. I scored in the beginning 50-70% but by the week of my exam I was scoring 70-90% on my round 2 of exams. It was a process, and I highly recommend using the Testmaster and the self pace work shop. Reading the material was good but I feel like the self pace workshop and the online test were really the most helpful. Now I will focus on completing my hours.
Thanks again🙂
Congrats! It is such a relief isn't it. I find my self rereading my letter because I'm in such shock. Now to figure out what to do with my time🙂I PASSED!! I PASSED!! I PASSSSEDDDD!!
I used psych prep with the at home workshop and one consultation which reaffirmed test taking strategy. I also did one pass on the retired questions exam and one PEPPPO.
Congrats!I PASSED!! I PASSED!! I PASSSSEDDDD!!
I used psych prep with the at home workshop and one consultation which reaffirmed test taking strategy. I also did one pass on the retired questions exam and one PEPPPO.
Congrats!
You need to reschedule the test to have more time to study. It only cost $62.00 to reschedule. This is not a test where you can learn everything by cramming the day before unless you are already a genius at Test taking.