Ever wonder why PA get more respect than us?

[YoungEel]

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No one said you should assume nurses have an expert knowledge of medications, but they do have a level of knowledge appropriate for their role as nurses. Nurses catch pharmacist mistakes all of the time, and just because they don't have our level of expertise doesn't mean they're "*******es". Of course we shouldn't assume they know everything, but they are trained to play their role and respecting them as healthcare professionals also means giving them some credit for what they do know. I'm not sure how you can simultaneously assume they're idiots and still treat them with respect.

I treat everyone with respect. Whether they are cleaning the public bathrooms or if they are the CEO of the hospital.

Another question: Do you disrespect idiots? I am almost positive there is someone that you know personally who has a few screws loose. Do you disrespect them when you encounter them? Probably not.

That's how you do it.

 

[R2pharmD2]

I treat everyone with respect. Whether they are cleaning the public bathrooms or if they are the CEO of the hospital.

Another question: Do you disrespect idiots? I am almost positive there is someone that you know personally who has a few screws loose. Do you disrespect them when you encounter them? Probably not.

That's how you do it.

There's a difference between showing respect in a general way (being polite, courteous, etc.) and having respect for someone's knowledge as a healthcare provider. That's my point. A physician could call you up, be incredibly friendly and polite, heck, even address you as "doctor", but then assume you know nothing about medications. That would be a lack of respect for your education as a pharmacist.

 

[rxlea]

I have a great attitude. Apparently you didn't read what I typed. Let me put this another way for you to comprehend.

Let's say you are working in a retail setting. A newly diagnosed patient gives you a prescription for levothyroxine. Would you:

A) give the patient the levothyroxine bottle in a bag and tell them to have a nice day assuming the patient had expert knowledge of the disease and treatment? or

B) Assume the patient didn't know anything about the disease and administration?

Depending on if you answered correctly, 98% of what you typed was irrelevant as a rebuttal to my message of assuming too much from a nurse and protecting your license.

What are you talking about? Nurses or patients? I don't assume patients are "*******es" and I don't assume all nurses are "*******es" either. Yes, patients need to be educated but that has nothing to do with what you were saying about nurses. You seem jaded.

 

[psychoandy]

It all has to do with roles. They need something ordered, pa says OK and writes it. Whereas rph have to look into things, crosscovering, etc and can't approve pain meds fast enough.

 

[owlegrad]

red herring
noun [C]

Definition
a fact, idea or subject that takes people's attention away from the central point being considered

You are absolutely right. I hope you don't scream on medical doctors in your hospital. So instead of typing abstract ideas, maybe you wouldn't mind answering this question for me:

What is wrong with assuming a nurse does not have expert knowledge of medication?

If you feel that nurses do have your level of knowledge of medications, maybe you also feel that pharmacists do not have a real role in a hospital setting. Is this true?


Thanks in advance for your response

Interesting.

 

[drift]

It all has to do with roles. They need something ordered, pa says OK and writes it. Whereas rph have to look into things, crosscovering, etc and can't approve pain meds fast enough.

this. PAs provide direct patient care and their job entails many of the same duties as physicians (thus get confused as physicians). In the eyes of the nurse/patient, a PA does pretty much what a doctor does. Although I think that said PA should be proactive in correcting the nurses when they inadvertently address him as such. I don't think its as straightforward as, nurse call PA "dr.", so they respect more then pharmacist who they dont address as "dr.". A PAs role is just easily confused with a doctor. Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with respect.

 

[YoungEel]

What are you talking about? Nurses or patients? I don't assume patients are "*******es" and I don't assume all nurses are "*******es" either. Yes, patients need to be educated but that has nothing to do with what you were saying about nurses. You seem jaded.

jad·ed/ˈjādid/
Adjective: Tired, bored, or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having had too much of something.

Is that the word you really wanted to use? That doesn't describe me at all.

 

[Ackj]

If you truly don't care what people think of you, why bathe and groom yourself? Why bother changing your clothes? Think of all the time you'd save. As soon as you state your piece on the phone, just hang up without saying goodbye. That's just a formal pleasantry anyway, and you shouldn't care about pleasing anybody.

Obviously you should care what people think of you, because if the right people think you're a d-bag, you're out of a job.

 

[Ackj]

There's a difference between showing respect in a general way (being polite, courteous, etc.) and having respect for someone's knowledge as a healthcare provider. That's my point. A physician could call you up, be incredibly friendly and polite, heck, even address you as "doctor", but then assume you know nothing about medications. That would be a lack of respect for your education as a pharmacist.

I think I must be the only one understanding Eel. If you assume they don't know anything, then you're extra careful to not leave anything out. Has nothing to do with respect. Doctor calling in an rx, they assume you have no idea what they are going to call in (which is correct). If they assumed you knew it all, they'd just say a drug name, and expect you to fill in the rest (obviously you know the dosing, duh). Are they being disrespectful when they tell us the Lipitor is once a day? No, but they're not going to chance it that somebody might screw it up.

 

[owlegrad]

If you truly don't care what people think of you, why bathe and groom yourself? Why bother changing your clothes? Think of all the time you'd save. As soon as you state your piece on the phone, just hang up without saying goodbye. That's just a formal pleasantry anyway, and you shouldn't care about pleasing anybody.

Obviously you should care what people think of you, because if the right people think you're a d-bag, you're out of a job.

🙄

Hyperbole much? The point is to not let other people's actions bother you, not to be an unapologetic d-bag. Why should I care if a nurse/patient/doctor is rude to me? Being rude back gets me nowhere and letting it bother me is a waste of energy. I am in favor of bathing and in general understanding social norms.

What is the name of that one fallace where you take someones point and stretch it to an unreasonable conclusion? I used to know my fallacies, not so much anymore.

 

[YoungEel]

I think I must be the only one understanding Eel. If you assume they don't know anything, then you're extra careful to not leave anything out. Has nothing to do with respect. Doctor calling in an rx, they assume you have no idea what they are going to call in (which is correct). If they assumed you knew it all, they'd just say a drug name, and expect you to fill in the rest (obviously you know the dosing, duh). Are they being disrespectful when they tell us the Lipitor is once a day? No, but they're not going to chance it that somebody might screw it up.

Wow...finally.

 

[YoungEel]

🙄

Hyperbole much? The point is to not let other people's actions bother you, not to be an unapologetic d-bag. Why should I care if a nurse/patient/doctor is rude to me? Being rude back gets me nowhere and letting it bother me is a waste of energy. I am in favor of bathing and in general understanding social norms.

What is the name of that one fallace where you take someones point and stretch it to an unreasonable conclusion? I used to know my fallacies, not so much anymore.

^^^ Weird thought processes

 

[owlegrad]

^^^ Weird thought processes

I respect that we don't agree on this issue. I just do not understand letting that nurses call PA's doctor bother someone. That is a weird thought process to me.

 

[owlegrad]

The fact that she is even comparing her education to yours is laughable. You need to show her that she isn't in the same building as you, let alone the same level.

One of my mentors tells me to assume that the nurses are *******es and not to assume anything is understood when your license is on the line.

I think I must be the only one understanding Eel. If you assume they don't know anything, then you're extra careful to not leave anything out. Has nothing to do with respect.

I am not sure we are reading the same posts Ackj. Everything you say is reasonable and I agree.

 

[YoungEel]

I respect that we don't agree on this issue. I just do not understand letting that nurses call PA's doctor bother someone. That is a weird thought process to me.

Reading the OP's post, I don't think that the above was the only gripe.

I cannot respect the fact that you are ok with your colleagues speaking to you in any type of fashion. Did they teach you that at your school? Is it something that you thought up? I'm curious....

 

[spacecowgirl]

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

 

[phathead]

I think I must be the only one understanding Eel. If you assume they don't know anything, then you're extra careful to not leave anything out. Has nothing to do with respect. Doctor calling in an rx, they assume you have no idea what they are going to call in (which is correct). If they assumed you knew it all, they'd just say a drug name, and expect you to fill in the rest (obviously you know the dosing, duh). Are they being disrespectful when they tell us the Lipitor is once a day? No, but they're not going to chance it that somebody might screw it up.

I use the same manner of thinking with nurses as I do with new opioid patients.

Everyone gets pissed at me, but due to my past experience anytime someone new comes to the pharmacy with a collection of opioid scripts, I am going to assume you are either a seeker and/or will be a problem patient.

Is it fair to the actual pain management patients? Of course not, but you have to prove to me that you are responsible before I put my faith in you. I have had my ass burned too many times by trusting people in these situations when I shouldn't have. Give me a reason to trust you and I will.

Same thing goes for nurses with me. Prove to me that you are well-rounded in your knowledge AND not inept at your job and I have no problem with you. Until then, I'm going double check or question what you say or do because I don't trust you.

 

[R2pharmD2]

I think I must be the only one understanding Eel. If you assume they don't know anything, then you're extra careful to not leave anything out. Has nothing to do with respect. Doctor calling in an rx, they assume you have no idea what they are going to call in (which is correct). If they assumed you knew it all, they'd just say a drug name, and expect you to fill in the rest (obviously you know the dosing, duh). Are they being disrespectful when they tell us the Lipitor is once a day? No, but they're not going to chance it that somebody might screw it up.

Your example makes perfect sense, but I don't think that's what he was getting at. If it was, then several of his comments certainly don't make sense to me (and apparently not to several others here either). He says we should assume that nurses don't know anything, and we should treat them as such. If a nurse calls and asks why you put in an order for Lipitor while the patient is already taking simvastatin, are you going to assume the nurse doesn't know enough to question an order you put in, or are you going to look into it and correct the problem? That's an obvious example, but all I'm getting at is that there's a difference between being thorough and providing complete information and treating someone like they don't know anything.

 

[YoungEel]

There's a difference between showing respect in a general way (being polite, courteous, etc.) and having respect for someone's knowledge as a healthcare provider. That's my point. A physician could call you up, be incredibly friendly and polite, heck, even address you as "doctor", but then assume you know nothing about medications. That would be a lack of respect for your education as a pharmacist.

This is why they have to explicitly give medication orders before it can be acknowledged and verified. On the flip side, this also why many clinical specialists don't have a real voice while rounding. Are you in school?

 

[R2pharmD2]

This is why they have to explicitly give medication orders before it can be acknowledged and verified. On the flip side, this also why many clinical specialists don't have a real voice while rounding. Are you in school?

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

Agreed.

 

[owlegrad]

I cannot respect the fact that you are ok with your colleagues speaking to you in any type of fashion. Did they teach you that at your school? Is it something that you thought up? I'm curious....

I never said that.
My school taught me to be professional, not to let it bother me whenever someone treats me differently than I would like. We were taught to use techniques such as fogging to avoid taking thing personally and other dispute resolution techniques.

We were not taught to roll over or anything like that and that is not what I am saying.

I said you should not let it bother you. What benefit do you receive from letting it bother you? I'm curious...

 

[YoungEel]

Your example makes perfect sense, but I don't think that's what he was getting at. If it was, then several of his comments certainly don't make sense to me (and apparently not to several others here either). He says we should assume that nurses don't know anything, and we should treat them as such. If a nurse calls and asks why you put in an order for Lipitor while the patient is already taking simvastatin, are you going to assume the nurse doesn't know enough to question an order you put in, or are you going to look into it and correct the problem? That's an obvious example, but all I'm getting at is that there's a difference between being thorough and providing complete information and treating someone like they don't know anything.

Please reference where I said this? Please?? Quote me where I said to treat anybody with anything less than respect. After your failed searched, I will assume that you are sorry.

 

[YoungEel]

🙄

Hyperbole much? The point is to not let other people's actions bother you, not to be an unapologetic d-bag. Why should I care if a nurse/patient/doctor is rude to me? Being rude back gets me nowhere and letting it bother me is a waste of energy. I am in favor of bathing and in general understanding social norms.

What is the name of that one fallace where you take someones point and stretch it to an unreasonable conclusion? I used to know my fallacies, not so much anymore.

You didn't say that??? Oh...I thought you did......

 

[R2pharmD2]

The fact that she is even comparing her education to yours is laughable. You need to show her that she isn't in the same building as you, let alone the same level.

One of my mentors tells me to assume that the nurses are *******es and not to assume anything is understood when your license is on the line.

Please reference where I said this? Please?? Quote me where I said to treat anybody with anything less than respect. After your failed searched, I will assume that you are sorry.

If that's not what you were getting at here then I'm not sure what your point was. Apparently there is a disconnect between what you consider treating someone with respect and what I do.

 

[YoungEel]

I never said that.
My school taught me to be professional, not to let it bother me whenever someone treats me differently than I would like. We were taught to use techniques such as fogging to avoid taking thing personally and other dispute resolution techniques.

We were not taught to roll over or anything like that and that is not what I am saying.

I said you should not let it bother you. What benefit do you receive from letting it bother you? I'm curious...

A nurse yelling at me as if I am her/his bad child would bother me. I'm sorry, maybe my upbringing was different than yours. Read the below and let me know if you have ever come across it in life:

The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a maxim, ethical code, or morality that essentially states either of the following:
(Positive form): One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.[2]
(Negative/prohibitive form, also called the Silver Rule): One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated.

The Golden Rule is arguably the most essential basis for the modern concept of human rights, in which each individual has a right to just treatment, and a reciprocal responsibility to ensure justice for others.

Perhaps it rings a bell?

 

[owlegrad]

You didn't say that??? Oh...I thought you did......

I like a healthy debate, but I am afraid if I keep going I will start being rude, so I will have to stop here. I never said that I was "ok with your colleagues speaking to you in any type of fashion."

I said I don't care if someone is rude to me. I don't care - I will not let it bother me. I will get no benefit from letting it bother me. That is all I meant.

You never answered my question though - what benefit do you get from it?

 

[owlegrad]

A nurse yelling at me as if I am her/his bad child would bother me. I'm sorry, maybe my upbringing was different than yours. Read the below and let me know if you have ever come across it in life:

The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a maxim, ethical code, or morality that essentially states either of the following:
(Positive form): One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.[2]
(Negative/prohibitive form, also called the Silver Rule): One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated.

The Golden Rule is arguably the most essential basis for the modern concept of human rights, in which each individual has a right to just treatment, and a reciprocal responsibility to ensure justice for others.

Perhaps it rings a bell?

Ah The Golden Rule. We can agree on this 100%. 👍

It is how you should treat others, not how they are required to treat you.

 

[YoungEel]

If that's not what you were getting at here then I'm not sure what your point was. Apparently there is a disconnect between what you consider treating someone with respect and what I do.

Ok...so to show a nurse that your knowledge far exceeds hers when dealing with medication. Would you

A) Educate her on proper protocols/administration/monitoring/pk/pt of meds or would you

B) Disrespect her

I assumed that you want to be a HC professional. which choice would the HC professional choose in proving a nurse's knowledge base isn't on the same level with a DOCTOR of PHARMACY????

There is an apparent disconnect. I guess this is the stuff they don't teach you in school. Do you at least tech??

 

[R2pharmD2]

Ok...so to show a nurse that your knowledge far exceeds hers when dealing with medication. Would you

A) Educate her on proper protocols/administration/monitoring/pk/pt of meds or would you

B) Disrespect her

I assumed that you want to be a HC professional. which choice would the HC professional choose in proving a nurse's knowledge base isn't on the same level with a DOCTOR of PHARMACY????

There is an apparent disconnect. I guess this is the stuff they don't teach you in school. Do you at least tech??

Why do you need to prove to a nurse that your knowledge far exceeds hers? Besides ego?

I don't understand your thought process, and I've already spent far too long trying. I give up

 

[YoungEel]

I like a healthy debate, but I am afraid if I keep going I will start being rude, so I will have to stop here. I never said that I was "ok with your colleagues speaking to you in any type of fashion."

I said I don't care if someone is rude to me. I don't care - I will not let it bother me. I will get no benefit from letting it bother me. That is all I meant.

You never answered my question though - what benefit do you get from it?

Are you ready????

The benefit I get with letting rudeness bother me is that I can correct it and try to prevent a habit from forming. I do not disrespect anyone, I do not expect to be disrespected from other Health Care Professionals. This is the one of the main reasons I didn't go into Retail. I am not a fan of being disrespected. Nurses being rude to pharmacists is a learned habit. Nurses know not to be rude to the MDs. Nurses know that they can scream on the average pharmacist and it gets positive results.

It's kind of like the benefit of pain. Do you feel like you benefit from pain? Does it feel good? No, but it lets you know that you are leaning on a hot stove coil.

This whole idea of being a door mat really irritates me about pharmacy students/ pharmacists. Then you all wonder why the profession is turning out the way it is. Too many Door Mats!

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Ok...so to show a nurse that your knowledge far exceeds hers when dealing with medication. Would you

A) Educate her on proper protocols/administration/monitoring/pk/pt of meds or would you

B) Disrespect her

I assumed that you want to be a HC professional. which choice would the HC professional choose in proving a nurse's knowledge base isn't on the same level with a DOCTOR of PHARMACY????

There is an apparent disconnect. I guess this is the stuff they don't teach you in school. Do you at least tech??

Give it up. You're just backpedaling all over the place now. Assuming that someone is a ******* (that was what you proudly quoted your mentor as saying) is not treating them with respect. That's what everyone is taking issue with. Now stop trying to demean people by insulting them, calling them inexperienced or _____________ fill in the blank with crappy internet argument technique.

 

[owlegrad]

Are you ready????

The benefit I get with letting rudeness bother me is that I can correct it and try to prevent a habit from forming. I do not disrespect anyone, I do not expect to be disrespected from other Health Care Professionals. This is the one of the main reasons I didn't go into Retail. I am not a fan of being disrespected. Nurses being rude to pharmacists is a learned habit. Nurses know not to be rude to the MDs. Nurses know that they can scream on the average pharmacist and it gets positive results.

Another point where we agree 100%. I suspect we agree more than we disagree. 👍

 

[YoungEel]

Why do you need to prove to a nurse that your knowledge far exceeds hers? Besides ego?

I don't understand your thought process, and I've already spent far too long trying. I give up

You are correct, I have pride in myself and my profession.

Can't teach a guppy to be a shark.

 

[R2pharmD2]

Give it up. You're just backpedaling all over the place now. Assuming that someone is a ******* (that was what you proudly quoted your mentor as saying) is not treating them with respect. That's what everyone is taking issue with. Now stop trying to demean people by insulting them, calling them inexperienced or _____________ fill in the blank with crappy internet argument technique.

What's a good debate without a personal attack here and there?

(Not that this is a good debate...)

 

[YoungEel]

Give it up. You're just backpedaling all over the place now. Assuming that someone is a ******* (that was what you proudly quoted your mentor as saying) is not treating them with respect. That's what everyone is taking issue with. Now stop trying to demean people by insulting them, calling them inexperienced or _____________ fill in the blank with crappy internet argument technique.

Am I back-pedaling? Explain to me where the back-pedaling occurred? You are like the third person who used a cliche because you thought it sounded good.

Do you understand what a thought is?
Do you understand what an action is?

An assumption is a thought.
Treating someone is usually an action.

Actually my technique is pretty good. I see that there are not many people who can really rebut. Seems like the majority of people on here do not understand the difference between assumptions and actions. I'm sure that all of you have dealt with someone personally that you despised but treated them with respect. It's the same thing. You're not being real with yourself if you say otherwise.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

What's a good debate without a personal attack here and there?

(Not that this is a good debate...)

Guy has been a pharmacist all of three months (check his post history) and suddenly knows SO MUCH more than everyone else. Like the ink at least dry on your license before trying to convince everyone you know it all, IMO.

We should all stop responding to him.

 

[Ackj]

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.

How does one inform others that they need a spanking?

 

[All4MyDaughter]

How does one inform others that they need a spanking?

I will spank you, if you insist.

 

[owlegrad]

I will spank you, if you insist.

The line starts here.

 

[R2pharmD2]

 

[YoungEel]

You have made me exceed my 4 posts-a-year limit.

What I really want to say to all of you is that there's nothing wrong with having pride in your profession. Maybe you feel a certain way because you couldn't get into med/dental/optometry school or maybe you have been a door mat your entire life. Whatever the case may be, you should be proud that you are the medication experts of Health Care. Maybe some of you are passive by nature but you don't have to let everybody get a win at your expense. The conditions of Retail will only get worse if you stay passive.

When I did my rotations in a Chain store, I saw how ignorant people can really be. I have been in other public service positions and haven't experienced such rude behavior from so many customers. This is coming from someone who is physically above average. I can't imagine what happens to the female pharmacists in rough areas. The retail execs know that they can run over the pharmacists as well. The demands will only get worse now that they can use the recession as leverage.

I don't want to pick fights or debate anybody but this whole passive, turn the other cheek culture in pharmacy is a problem.

 

[YoungEel]

Guy has been a pharmacist all of three months (check his post history) and suddenly knows SO MUCH more than everyone else. Like the ink at least dry on your license before trying to convince everyone you know it all, IMO.

We should all stop responding to him.

All for my Daughter, I graduated high school in the 90's. I have worked in several different corporate environments. My experiences in other sectors had me dealing with military big shots, doctors, IT experts, all in the same room. I speak from experience. This is why I feel so strongly about being respected by professionals from various disciplines. This phenomenon doesn't happen as much in other environments.

Tell me of your professional life prior to pharmacy??? If you have none, then I do not expect a response.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

All for my Daughter, I graduated high school in the 90's. I have worked in several different corporate environments. My experiences in other sectors had me dealing with military big shots, doctors, IT experts, all in the same room. I speak from experience. This is why I feel so strongly about being respected by professionals from various disciplines. This phenomenon doesn't happen as much in other environments.

Tell me of your life prior to pharmacy??? If you have none, then I do not expect a response.

I graduated from high school in the early 1990's. I earned a bachelor (1997) and master's degree (2001) and served as CEO of a nonprofit agency serving at risk youth. When my agency lost funding d/t changed giving patterns after 9/11, I negotiated a merger with a larger agency that would preserve services for our clients and jobs for my employees. I then decided to change careers and went back to school to become a pharmacist. I've given birth to two children and buried one of them. I testified in court against the man who murdered both her and my niece. I took a little less than one year off in the middle of pharmacy school to recover from that loss and pursue recourse through the justice system. Since that time, my husband and I have started a number of charitable enterprises in her memory. I help manage a website with hundreds of thousands of members spanning the entire health care profession. I think I have a bit of life experience under my belt.

The most disrespect I've ever felt in the profession of pharmacy is not from physicians, nurses, other allied health professionals, or even from patients. It's from OTHER PHARMACISTS. I think as a profession we lack unity and respect for the accomplishments of our fellow pharmacists and student pharmacists. One has only to read the posts on this forum to see what I'm talking about.

Was there something else you wanted to know?

 

[KARM12]

Maybe I'm just lucky, but we all go by first names in my unit. Everyone calls our attendings "Steve" or "Chris" or "Jim." It isn't Dr. xxxx. No one cares, we all work together. The would correct you if you tried to say Dr xxxxx.

 

[YoungEel]

I graduated from high school in the early 1990's. I earned a bachelor (1997) and master's degree (2001) and served as CEO of a nonprofit agency serving at risk youth. When my agency lost funding d/t changed giving patterns after 9/11, I negotiated a merger with a larger agency that would preserve services for our clients and jobs for my employees. I then decided to change careers and went back to school to become a pharmacist. I've given birth to two children and buried one of them. I testified in court against the man who murdered both her and my niece. I took a little less than one year off in the middle of pharmacy school to recover from that loss and pursue recourse through the justice system. Since that time, my husband and I have started a number of charitable enterprises in her memory. I help manage a website with hundreds of thousands of members spanning the entire health care profession. I think I have a bit of life experience under my belt.

The most disrespect I've ever felt in the profession of pharmacy is not from physicians, nurses, other allied health professionals, or even from patients. It's from OTHER PHARMACISTS. I think as a profession we lack unity and respect for the accomplishments of our fellow pharmacists and student pharmacists. One has only to read the posts on this forum to see what I'm talking about.

Was there something else you wanted to know?

(Sorry for your loss)

In your previous profession, do you feel colleagues from other disciplines treated you the way some nurses treat pharmacists? I actually feel as if there is more respect between pharmacists vs other HC professionals. This is a forum and not real life. Half of the people in here would not speak their minds in real life as they do here. You can't really use forums as an example of the real world.

I do not know which part of the country you live in where you get disrespected more by your fellow pharmacists vs other HC professionals. Interesting point of view. Do you turn the other cheek?

 

[Ackj]

Was there something else you wanted to know?

This post reminds me of Groundhog Day, where the woman makes a simple comment about the blizzard, and Phil goes off into a long explanation, and finally says "Did you want to talk about the weather or were you just making chitchat?"

 

[rxlea]

(Sorry for your loss)

In your previous profession, do you feel colleagues from other disciplines treated you the way some nurses treat pharmacists? I actually feel as if there is more respect between pharmacists vs other HC professionals. This is a forum and not real life. Half of the people in here would not speak their minds in real life as they do here. You can't really use forums as an example of the real world.

I do not know which part of the country you live in where you get disrespected more by your fellow pharmacists vs other HC professionals. Interesting point of view. Do you turn the other cheek?

I dunno. SDN can be pretty real life. I've met some great friends on here....
And in real life if you called your colleagues *******es I would tell you that you are out of line.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

This post reminds me of Groundhog Day, where the woman makes a simple comment about the blizzard, and Phil goes off into a long explanation, and finally says "Did you want to talk about the weather or were you just making chitchat?"

I was just answering his question. 😛

Did you want that spanking now or later? 😉

 

[Ackj]

I was just answering his question. 😛

Did you want that spanking now or later? 😉

Just remember, treat others as you want them to treat you. I will be morally obligated to reciprocate.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

(Sorry for your loss)

In your previous profession, do you feel colleagues from other disciplines treated you the way some nurses treat pharmacists? I actually feel as if there is more respect between pharmacists vs other HC professionals. This is a forum and not real life. Half of the people in here would not speak their minds in real life as they do here. You can't really use forums as an example of the real world.

I do not know which part of the country you live in where you get disrespected more by your fellow pharmacists vs other HC professionals. Interesting point of view. Do you turn the other cheek?

Yeah, see... I disagree with you that there is some sort of special nurse-on-pharmacist hatred out there. But I've already shared my thoughts about that upthread.

I do at least agree with you that people behave badly more often online than they do IRL. I think it's lame. It takes a big tough guy to be an internet badass, I guess. I stand by my assertion that intra-professional attitudes in this forum are the pits. I'm not anonymous on here, so my internet persona is pretty much the same as my "real life" one.

As far as what I do when I encounter a disrespectful person, IRL... I guess I just don't worry about it as much as you do. I state my case, do my job, and move on. I don't dwell or prestige or "respect" or any other things that don't matter.