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[BuckFMP]

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For those that used interfolio to send in letters how did you do it? It seems that they want you to add the names and e-mails of each of your recommenders so that they can e-mail a request for the letters but I'd rather not bother the recommenders since they've already submitted my letters to both interfolio and my school's letter service. I know that they say you can do interfolio but how should you go about that section of the app since it won't let you go any further without those details? any ideas? I'm going to call the school tomorrow but if I can send everything tonight that'd be ideal.

I put in a dummy e-mail address and listed myself as the recipient. I then e-mailed Rose that my letters would be coming via Interfolio.

 

[DbDan]

I put in a dummy e-mail address and listed myself as the recipient. I then e-mailed Rose that my letters would be coming via Interfolio.

👍 Thanks alot

 

[nizzy]

For those that used interfolio to send in letters how did you do it? It seems that they want you to add the names and e-mails of each of your recommenders so that they can e-mail a request for the letters but I'd rather not bother the recommenders since they've already submitted my letters to both interfolio and my school's letter service. I know that they say you can do interfolio but how should you go about that section of the app since it won't let you go any further without those details? any ideas? I'm going to call the school tomorrow but if I can send everything tonight that'd be ideal.

I put in Rose as the e-mail/name for the recommendation, and e-mailed her telling her that the recs are coming through Interfolio. Good luck! 🙂

 

[DbDan]

I put in Rose as the e-mail/name for the recommendation, and e-mailed her telling her that the recs are coming through Interfolio. Good luck! 🙂

That was what Leah got back to me and told me to do. Everything is submitted, Interfolio should be mailing the letters tomorrow and both my transcripts go out tomorrow from California, everything should be in by the beginning of next week We'll see what happens

 

[sbugrad]

Application complete! Nothin' to do but wait... *fingers crossed*

 

[DbDan]

Application complete! Nothin' to do but wait... *fingers crossed*

same. Gotta send a picture tomorrow though apparently. oops. Then gotta wait to hear back. I haven't searched the 20+ pages but how quickly do they seem to be getting back to people now that the deadline is rapidly approaching?

 

[RichHoos]

I was complete early this morning. I too was wondering how quickly, and by what method (email / phone?), we might hear. It seems like sometimes people hear back really quickly--maybe because they're super qualified or maybe because they just happened to be complete just prior to a regularly scheduled AdComm meeting. Good luck to you guys, maybe we'll be classmates soon.

 

[DbDan]

I was complete early this morning. I too was wondering how quickly, and by what method (email / phone?), we might hear. It seems like sometimes people hear back really quickly--maybe because they're super qualified or maybe because they just happened to be complete just prior to a regularly scheduled AdComm meeting. Good luck to you guys, maybe we'll be classmates soon.

I got an e-mail that I was complete yesterday but was missing a photo. Leah actually called me this morning to remind me to send it while I was e-mailing her. Hopefully we will hear back soon. I know someone heard back within 4 days earlier in the thread. Ridiculous 😱

 

[pices394]

I just got into this program and the Cincinnati one too..still waiting to hear on the other apps I submitted. Does anyone know how they compare?

 

[sbugrad]

Congrats on your acceptances!! If you don't mind, seeing as we're all stat junkies on here, would you share yours, as well as when your app was complete?

As far as EVMS and the Cinci programs, I applied to both and have done plenty of research, so I'll drop in my $0.02. EVMS and Cinci are as close as you can get to linkage, as far as true SMP programs go. Both are very small class sizes when compared to Gtown or BU, and both have great percentages when it comes to getting their SMP students into medical school. From what I understand, however, is EVMS is mainly geared toward producing primary care physicians. That is not to say, however, that you cannot enter into any specialty of your choice coming from EVMS medical school, but you may gain more exposure to different fields at Cinci. That being said, either program seems like a great choice. Personally, I would choose EVMS because I like the area more than Cinci. I guess I didn't really help distinguish between the two, sorry!

 

[pices394]

Good luck everyone!

 

[DbDan]

Sure- stats:
OA GPA: 3.57 (from Ivy-caliber school)
Science: 3.1 (had a rough freshman year, was not a science major, need more classes!)
MCAT: 34R

I turned my application in on the 10th and heard back on the 16th (but I didn't find out until today cause I am working in a place that doesn't have mail! 🙂)

Good luck everyone!

Wow they seem to be getting back to everyone really quickly. Hopefully I'll hear back soon then

 

[DrMidlife]

I just got into this program and the Cincinnati one too..still waiting to hear on the other apps I submitted. Does anyone know how they compare?

IMHO you can't go wrong with either one.

EVMS and Cinci are as close as you can get to linkage, as far as true SMP programs go. Both are very small class sizes when compared to Gtown or BU, and both have great percentages when it comes to getting their SMP students into medical school.

Agree.

From what I understand, however, is EVMS is mainly geared toward producing primary care physicians. That is not to say, however, that you cannot enter into any specialty of your choice coming from EVMS medical school, but you may gain more exposure to different fields at Cinci.

IMHO when a school says it's primary care focused, it's not talking to premeds. The school is talking to the state and its taxpayers, partially to get funding, and partially to answer for how the school is addressing the lack of primary care providers in the state. Private schools get state funding too, and are under the gun to have an answer to the primary care problem. But this is all just talk: there is no obligation for a student to pick primary care. There are usually optional rural/primary activities, rotations, etc. but a "primary care school" still has to put you through your surgery rotations and give you electives, and their match lists have ROADs. I have yet to see a med school, other than LECOM, actually combine "primary care focus" with "generates primary care physicians" by changing the curriculum. UWash is the #1 primary care school in the country, and that has everything to do with low student debt and nothing to do with how students are guided or taught.

When I'm looking at whether a med school prepares its students for a variety of specialties, I'm looking at what hospital(s) host its rotations, and how tightly the school is linked with those hospitals. I can't speak to Cincinnati because it's been a long time since I did this research. For EVMS, in adjacent buildings to the med school, there is a big level 1 trauma tertiary care hospital, a big children's hospital, a bunch of research centers, and multiple clinic buildings. Neither hospital belongs to EVMS, which is less cool than having an "EVMS Medical Center", but I'm not able to come up with a tangible reason why that would matter to a med student on rotations - it's not like the EVMS/Sentara/CHKD relationship is going to disintegrate on a shared campus. EVMS has a community focus, which for a med student means access to public health pathologies and activities without having to invent the wheel. EVMS has an active but limited body of research in progress - tons of reproductive endocrinology, no tropical medicine.

Personally, my current likes are ob/gyn, uro, vascular surgery, colorectal surgery and EM. I'm not looking to publish, I'm not looking to get an MD/PhD, I might want an MPH, and I will be more interested in location than prestige come residency. So: before I went to EVMS I looked at the faculty listings for those departments, and was satisfied when I saw that they had such departments. After I arrived at EVMS to do the SMP I started getting to know faculty in those departments. I am well-oriented to how I would use EVMS resources to further my selfish needs.

I'm not explaining this to sell EVMS, but to suggest how you might go about assessing which school meets your needs. Think about what you need: if you think you'll want to do peds or a peds specialty, you'll need to notice whether there's a children's hospital at your med school. Hard to argue that you need one during an SMP, regardless. BTW, EVMS has its 2010 match list published on its web page.

But here's the thing, if you don't get into the host school Ucincy will give you a better shot of getting into other schools more so then EVMS.

I think this is true in the sense that more people have heard of UCincinnati than have heard of EVMS (on the west coast, nobody has heard of either, really). But I don't think there's a difference in how each SMP supports same-year apps. Both are good.

EVMS supports its SMP students' apps to other schools with as much aggression as Georgetown (to pick a "good at supporting same-year apps" SMP). The director gets a letter out, as soon as school starts, to explain the program and set expectations to the other med schools to which EVMS SMP students applied. I expect Cincinnati does the same.

Out of 23 students in last years EVMS SMP class, 20 got into med school, and I think 8 went to a med school other than EVMS. Of those 8, rumor has it that 7 also got into EVMS. Compare this to the class page on Cincinnati's site - probably about the same, plus or minus a couple.

I think with either EVMS or Cincinnati, you could make a strong bet that you can stay at the host med school, which you can't with Gtown.

Also, midlife recently mentioned that EVMS has become a state school and not a private school. So if it is a public school I don't know how that will affect acceptances into their med school from doing that program. I don't know though. Perhaps she can give better insight based on things she's heard.

EVMS is not well known outside VA. Making it public isn't making it less well known.

As with any SMP, if you're the first EVMS SMP student that Upstairs Med School has seen, you carry the burden of explaining what the EVMS SMP is and why Upstairs should take it seriously. If Downstairs Med School already accepted somebody from the EVMS SMP before you showed up, most likely you'll benefit. But any given adcom may have never heard of an SMP. Even GTown SMP students have to explain what an SMP is.

Best of luck to you.

 

[sbugrad]

👍DrMidlife, you're a god-send👍

 

[LeoMessi10]

This question directed to Dr.Midlife in reference to above post, and to anyone with the knowledge. It would seem statistically that great performance in the program would lead to matriculation to EVMS, but is the potential to attend another MD school after performing well decently likely? I like the idea of the program and the area and everything else, except for the price tag of 4 yrs of out of state tuition at EVMS if that is where my path leads. So is there a somewhat reasonable chance with very high grades in the program and high-ish (33) MCAT that a EVMS MS grad could get into other modest MD programs?

 

[LeoMessi10]

disregard above ?, i have seen in old posts that students get into a good enough range of MD schools as well as EVMS....

 

[kmc3830]

I have a couple of questions:

1) Has anyone ever heard of anyone deferring an acceptance to the SMP for a year?

2) I am interested in getting my MD/MPH, and was wondering if there is any way to get started on MPH classes during the M1 year at EVMS when the load will be a little lighter (assuming one high passes some classes during the med masters year).

Thanks!

 

[DrMidlife]

I have a couple of questions:

1) Has anyone ever heard of anyone deferring an acceptance to the SMP for a year?

No, but you can always try.

2) I am interested in getting my MD/MPH, and was wondering if there is any way to get started on MPH classes during the M1 year at EVMS when the load will be a little lighter (assuming one high passes some classes during the med masters year).

This is definitely possible, and a good idea to pursue. What you'd want to confirm is whether that pulls the MD/MPH back to a 4 year program for you or not.

You won't have any control over whether the classes you high pass/honor during your SMP (if any) open up your schedule for the MPH classes or not. Having all the planets align will be tricky, but there's no reason not to go after this idea.

Best of luck to you.

 

[hippo23]

OMG I GOT IN!!! Came home from work and had the FedEx package waiting for me 🙂 I'm a little shocked, but thrilled and will definitely be attending. Btw, I had been waitlisted back in December sometime and recently e-mailed Leah to tell her how interested I was and ask when/how I should send update letters and letters of intent. She e-mailed me back and said I should e-mail her letters in May but then called me a day later to ask if I was still interested and to confirm my address...2 days later I was accepted.

Bottom line: I think it helps to show interest and keep bugging them if EVMS is REALLY where you want to go. My stats are NOT that good (28Q, 3.0 overall, 2.7 sci from a top 3 undergrad) but I said that EVMS was unequivocally my #1 choice and was accepted very soon after. Obviously, don't say that if it's not true but expressing interest and love for the school can never hurt.

 

[LeoMessi10]

Congrats to the above. For those, like me, who are interested in such info....
Applied late January
Waitlisted late Feb
Called by Leah Monday of this week to see if I was still interested
Fed Excellent news arrived yesterday

3.0cum 33R MCAT, OOS (Umich)

Pumped to be rid of Michigan winters for at least one year.
People looking for roomates (I am 24M) hit me up on email in profile and we can discuss.

Best of luck to all those still waiting. Cheers and go FCBarca.

 

[xtremefx145]

Hey all,

Just got in yesterday and wondering who else is planning on attending EVMS in August.

-Joe

 

[hippo23]

Sounds like they had quite a round of acceptances yesterday! I will most definitely be attending. 24F, VA resident. Can't wait to meet my future classmates 🙂

 

[DbDan]

I only got complete on the 25th so I'm not expecting anything immediately, but hopefully soon-ish. Seems like a great program.

 

[pupcake9463]

I was also complete a few days ago, and I imagine the turnaround for us near-deadliners will be longer than the usual 2ish weeks🙁. Thoughts?

 

[DbDan]

I was also complete a few days ago, and I imagine the turnaround for us near-deadliners will be longer than the usual 2ish weeks🙁. Thoughts?

Turnaround was, up to the beginning of last month, a matter of days in some cases. Someone said that his application was complete on 3/1 and he had his acceptance by 3/5. They seem to get back to everyone rather quickly, I'm not sure how long it will take though for us or even how many people applied very late in the cycle. I'd assume that there couldn't have been a huge influx of applications if they started pulling people off the waitlist yesterday though. I also live across the country so who knows when I'll actually hear word. It takes like 5 days for things to get from here to there in normal mail.

 

[xtremefx145]

I was waitlisted about 2 weeks after all my paperwork was in. This was about a 2 months ago. Then I received an acceptance yesterday in the mail. I wouldn’t get all stressed out. The class size is small so they aren’t handing out a bunch of acceptances at one time. I'm sure they will be taking people off the wait list until August as they find out how many people send in the deposit and or choose not to accept the offer for admittance.

 

[IADocWest]

Hey everyone. I was accepted last week and I have accepted the offer and will most likely be attending this fall. I know that this program has very high linkage and I have absolutely have no problem with that, but I was just curious what some of the other medical schools are that previous Medical Master's students have been accepted to? I read a post earlier that said Medical Master's students usually get interviews and acceptances to other schools like VCU or George Washington, but usually end up staying at EVMS. Are there other schools in addition to those two?

 

[ThePedro]

Complete March 16.
Waitlisted this morning. 👎

3.1 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA, 34 R, OOS (NY).

I really hope this waitlist moves, EVMS is my #1 choice, by far!

Is it too early to call to find out waitlist position?

EDIT: Male, does gender really matter?

 

[pupcake9463]

male or female? (the WL moves separately according to gender and IS/OOS)

 

[xtremefx145]

Hey,

Anyone interested in sharing a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment in August. I would like to live somewhat close to campus. My name is Joe and I'm 22 years old. Pm me or find me on Aim: Xtremefx145

 

[DrMidlife]

Some very general housing info:
1. EVMS is in the Ghent neighborhood. Anything between Granby and Hampton, south of 21st, north of downtown is walkable.
2. Craigslist is a good source: http://norfolk.craigslist.org/search/apa?query=ghent
3. EVMS has some listings as well, but the web server tends to be cranky: https://myevms.evms.edu/portal/page/portal/EVMS_Sinapse/HousingListings and http://student2.evms.edu/virtual_market/
4. You can look at listings now to get educated, but August listings won't start showing up until late May at the earliest.

 

[hippo23]

For Dr. Midlife or anyone else who's on here who may be a Med Master this year, I have a couple of questions...How has the year been overall? How is the workload compared to what you were expecting? Have you been able to high pass/honors pass any of your classes? How did the interviews go for EVMS medical school? Have you had any free time to do stuff in your free time/on weekends and if so, what types of activities have you participated in? What's the schedule of your typical day like?
Any answers would be very much appreciated as I will be a Med Master come August and am trying to just get an idea about what to expect. I have read the entire EVMS forum here so I know what people have said in previous years but I haven't really read about the experiences of the current class thus far. Thanks so much for any information you all can give me!

 

[hippo23]

Oh, I was also curious about what kind of laptop you would recommend, if any. I'm getting a new one before school and would appreciate any advice. I'm not a technologically saavy person at all so Mac/PC makes no difference to me, I'll get whatever you all think would be best for EVMS.

 

[DrMidlife]

Overall: It's very hard work. I'm very glad I came to EVMS: my favorite things are the general friendliness, and some key faculty members.

Workload: Given reasonable discipline & time management, it's doable. As I'd assumed, I had to get good, fast, at assessing where I wasn't getting the job done, and make adjustments on the fly. Most of my problems were in deprioritizing comprehensive understanding in favor of maximizing test scores. My strategy was to be willing to try new things if they were working for my classmates (such as group study) and adapt adapt adapt.

High pass/honors: Considerably more difficult for me than I expected; considerably easier for one or two of my classmates than they expected.

Interviews: IMHO no different from regular EVMS interviews, so be all over the SDN interview feedback. There isn't news yet on med masters acceptances, except for one or two of my classmates who got into other schools already.

Free time: I have a couple of social engagements on weeknights, and I usually take a full day off on the weekend. There are a fair number of days when the M1's have scheduled labs and the med masters do not, sometimes an afternoon, sometimes a full day. For building a social life, you have your whole med masters class, as well as the previous year's med masters class (which actively looks after the new class), as well as the M1's you're in class with. There is always more going on than you'll have time for. If you can't make friends and do fun stuff here, that's not EVMS' problem, quite frankly.

Schedule: Highly variable day to day: some days you have nothing, some days you have 8 hours straight of lecture plus lab plus seminar. They hand out a full printed schedule for the semester, available online as well, and although it does change with some frequency, it's pretty easy to plan out a week at a time. Usually lecture starts at 9 or 10, usually done by noon or 1 if there's no lab that day. After the first month or so, all you really focus on is the exam schedule - these are usually no more than one per week, but you have to stay on top of expectations. The faculty put a lot of work into coordinating between classes, and I think they do pretty well.

Laptop: EVMS is a public, underfunded, low tech school. If you are the only person with a specific device type, you'll be on your own to figure out how to get onto the net etc. If you have a normal Mac or a normal PC, you'll be no better or worse off than anybody else. If you run Ubuntu on an Amiga, good luck to you. Generally you can expect to need to use the campus lab computers for a few tasks that can't be done anywhere else, once or twice a week. EVMS blocks youtube and facebook and whatnot on the campus wifi. Slides and lecture recordings and assignments are generally made available online in a generally disorganized fashion.

Let me know what else you want to know.

Best of luck to you.

 

[hippo23]

Thanks Dr. Midlife! As always, your input is much appreciated 🙂

 

[DbDan]

Thanks for the review Dr. Midlife.

I e-mailed Leah to see if there was any indication of when I'd be hearing back, despite it being only two weeks (ya, I'm impatient but I'm also registering now for summer classes because I have no idea of plans for next year) and I got a thanks for being proactive e-mail. Said that I should be hearing from them "shortly" whatever that means. So for anyone who applied near the deadline, we should be hearing back in the near future.

 

[xtremefx145]

So I was accepted into EVMS smp class of 2011 and out of curiosity I decided to check some admissions requirements for the medical school, due to the fact that I have hopes of attending the medical school after the smp. Bam... they only accept the mcat if its less then two years old. I took mine June 13 2008 🙁 the summer before my senior year. Is this affecting any one else? or am I the only village idiot.

 

[DrMidlife]

So I was accepted into EVMS smp class of 2011 and out of curiosity I decided to check some admissions requirements for the medical school, due to the fact that I have hopes of attending the medical school after the smp. Bam... they only accept the mcat if its less then two years old. I took mine June 13 2008 🙁 the summer before my senior year. Is this affecting any one else? or am I the only village idiot.

Generally you don't get accepted into the med masters without being "acceptable" into the med school. The med masters admissions committee didn't necessarily agonize over your MCAT test date, but if expiration was going to be an issue you'd likely have heard about it.

My recommendation is to be upfront about this. Send some email to Dr. Meyer and to Dr. Solhaug with your concern. I think you'll find them supportive and friendly and reasonable. Don't set yourself up to have to retake after completing the SMP when everybody else is on the beach.

Best of luck to you.

 

[pices394]

Hi all! Tufts MBS or Loyola MAMS? Any alumni out there?

Thanks! 🙂

 

[pupcake9463]

Just got a friendly letter in the mail today (postmarked 4/8) so the rest of you might be hearing soon. Is it too early to start calling to find out what 1/3 I'm in....?

I just love the waiting game; though at least I wasn't outright rejected. 😎

For whatever it's worth:
3.1c, 2.9s, 34R OOS F (When I met with Dr. Meyer he said--though it could easily deviate this year-- that the male waitlist, generally, moves more than the female--for both IS/OOS 🙁 )

Anyone else hear?

 

[DbDan]

Just got a friendly letter in the mail today (postmarked 4/8) so the rest of you might be hearing soon. Is it too early to start calling to find out what 1/3 I'm in....?

I just love the waiting game; though at least I wasn't outright rejected. 😎

For whatever it's worth:
3.1c, 2.9s, 34R OOS F (When I met with Dr. Meyer he said--though it could easily deviate this year-- that the male waitlist, generally, moves more than the female--for both IS/OOS 🙁 )

Anyone else hear?

When were you complete if you remember? A letter postmarked 4/8 would probably be getting to Cali end of this week so I may be hearing something soon.

 

[pupcake9463]

3/26 (late in the game 🙁)

When were you complete if you remember? A letter postmarked 4/8 would probably be getting to Cali end of this week so I may be hearing something soon.

 

[RichHoos]

I was complete on 3/25 and haven't heard yet. I just called to see if I could get any information and all they could tell me was to be patient. Good luck all!

 

[DbDan]

I was complete on 3/25 and haven't heard yet. I just called to see if I could get any information and all they could tell me was to be patient. Good luck all!

Same story here. I sent an e-mail a few days ago asking if there was a timetable to hear back and they said I should be hearing from them shortly. Don't know if that means the notice is in the mail or if they are getting close to making a ruling or what

 

[pupcake9463]

My guess is it's in the mail. I read in an earlier post that med schools have a 4/15 AND a 5/15 deposit deadline (though to be fair, more are on the may schedule). I tried calling in yesterday afternoon and today, but didn't reach anyone about WL position...

good luck!!

Same story here. I sent an e-mail a few days ago asking if there was a timetable to hear back and they said I should be hearing from them shortly. Don't know if that means the notice is in the mail or if they are getting close to making a ruling or what

 

[RichHoos]

Pupcake,

Did your letter come in a FedEx envelope? I know some others said this is how theirs came...

 

[pupcake9463]

HA, I wish. Fed ex, from what I've gathered, means acceptance letter, and snail mail means WL--mine was via snail mail 🙁

Pupcake,

Did your letter come in a FedEx envelope? I know some others said this is how theirs came...

 

[DbDan]

HA, I wish. Fed ex, from what I've gathered, means acceptance letter, and snail mail means WL--mine was via snail mail 🙁

Mine too. Waitlist arrived yesterday. O well! Gotta wait it out I suppose. Still waiting to hear back from Tufts, Tulane and Western

 

[NubQ]

Hey all!

I was accepted like a month agoish - for the Medical Masters program and wondering how this compares to the USF IMS program as far as getting students into med school. Appreciate any info!

 

[DrMidlife]

Hey all!

I was accepted like a month agoish - for the Medical Masters program and wondering how this compares to the USF IMS program as far as getting students into med school. Appreciate any info!

I recommend PMing GujuDoc, because she's knowledgeable about the USF programs.

My impression is that both programs reliably move their successful graduates into the host school. I can vouch that EVMS also moves its successful grads into other schools, by enthusiastically supporting same-year apps to other med schools. I have no similar data for USF IMS - hopefully Guj can assist here.