Failed Anatomy

[Izabelle]

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Anyone ever failed a class in med. school and had to repeat it? I am feeling pretty down for not passing anatomy and I have to take it again over the summer. I'm worried that it's an indication that I'm not cut out for med. school, though I've never considered quitting or anything like that because I absolutely love it. And I find that I'm really good at the clinical stuff, so that should mean something, right? I just hope that it doesn't mean that I'll struggle all throughout. I'm also worried about not passing the summer course because I studied my butt off this past semester and nothing came of it. Any helpful thoughts or suggestions?

 

[Law2Doc]

I'm also worried about not passing the summer course because I studied my butt off this past semester and nothing came of it. Any helpful thoughts or suggestions?

Don't keep going about it the same way. Try a whole new approach. Do more "active learning" -- writing out things, drawing things, outlining, making flashcards, rather than passive reading or listening. Talk to the prof for suggestions. If your school has tutor options use it. The nice thing about med school is that they give people multiple chances -- so make the most of it. The key to first year is figuring out a method that works. Be flexible about changing your methods.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

Anyone ever failed a class in med. school and had to repeat it? I am feeling pretty down for not passing anatomy and I have to take it again over the summer. I'm worried that it's an indication that I'm not cut out for med. school, though I've never considered quitting or anything like that because I absolutely love it. And I find that I'm really good at the clinical stuff, so that should mean something, right? I just hope that it doesn't mean that I'll struggle all throughout. I'm also worried about not passing the summer course because I studied my butt off this past semester and nothing came of it. Any helpful thoughts or suggestions?

I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I knew someone who failed anatomy, was placed in our class, failed the first block, then hauled ass 24/7 to pass.

You're not stupid, you clearly made it to med school.

What you need to do is figure out WHY you failed so you can address those factors. You said you studied your butt off, so maybe you need to study *differently* than you did before.

Was your problem with the practical or with the written aspect?
Was your problem memorizing names of structures?

I did extremely well in anatomy, here was my regimen:
- Watched Acland's DVDs for the particular block (buy them off Amazon!), this introduced me to the anatomy in the area
- Read Moore's Essential clinical anatomy for the area, referred to Big Moore when I needed more detail
- Watched UMich (http://anatomy.med.umich.edu/) AND UWisc (http://www.anatomy.wisc.edu/teaching.html) anatomy videos, since those videos highlighted the most important structures
- Did ALL the quiz questions from UMich at least 2-3 days before the test
- Did ALL the BRS anatomy questions about 4-5 days before a test
- Week before a test, went through BRS and made sure I knew everything and knew important anatomical relationships to each other.
- Used Netter / Muscle flashcards, referred to Netter to draw out anastomoses, made diagrams, etc.
- Went to lab every night for a week before the test and found EVERYTHING I needed to find.

Where did you lose points in? What intimidated you on the test? What did you get wrong? Which block was tough for you?

 

[cfdavid]

Anyone ever failed a class in med. school and had to repeat it? I am feeling pretty down for not passing anatomy and I have to take it again over the summer. I'm worried that it's an indication that I'm not cut out for med. school, though I've never considered quitting or anything like that because I absolutely love it. And I find that I'm really good at the clinical stuff, so that should mean something, right? I just hope that it doesn't mean that I'll struggle all throughout. I'm also worried about not passing the summer course because I studied my butt off this past semester and nothing came of it. Any helpful thoughts or suggestions?

Whatever you do, do not ever give up. You've made it into med school. You're gonna be a doctor, period. Anatomy is a lot of memorization, which is not everyone's cup of tea. It's a unique course in that, like Law2Doc suggests, requires a lot of active/proactive learning. And, it's not like other courses where you can figure things out (like physio, and I'm happy to report, even our biochem). So, it is different. Some people are really good at memorization. It's just not your thing, perhaps. Not a big deal. Just retake it, and you will pass. If not, take the f...cker again. But, don't give up.

Not much to offer other than retaking it, and NOT beating yourself up too much over it. Life is about learning, and sometimes struggling. I'm sure your ego is boosted, but don't doubt yourself. Just try studying a bit differently this time, and you'll probably have to retake it in the summer or something, in which case perhaps you'll be able to only focus on that class.

Also, FYI, I had two people at my cadaver table that really struggled with anatomy. One WILL go on to be a great doctor. She was a smart girl, but anatomy just wasn't her thing. The dude that was struggling had a Phd in biochem, and did his undergrad at MIT. Needless to say, he was no dummy. He just found the brute memorization of anatomy particularly tough. But, he too will go on (after retaking the class, mind you) to be a great doctor and perhaps researcher.

 

[Izabelle]

Wow! Thanks to all of you for the suggestions and encouragment. I do feel much better and I certainly will take all of your advice. I can't say what my real problem was but I know that I started off badly. I emphasized the wrong things and struggled with memorizing things like muscle actions. In the end, I shouldn't have memorized them but focused more on knowing them and reasoning out their actions. I didn't emphasize nerve lesions, mostly because I was behind and overwhelmed, so I missed the numerous upper extremity nerve lesion questions. I went up for the next two exams but was so low after the first exam that it would have been very difficult to redeem myself. And, like you all said, I do have trouble just memorizing things.

Thank you so much for the encouragement. I really needed it!

-Isa

 

[-Goose-]

This is a great regimen. I did nearly exactly the same plan (replace Moore's text with Gray's) and ended up with a very high A in the class.

I think one key to doing well in Anatomy is doing pre-test questions (BRS, Umich--> although UMich was a bit easy, imo). You won't get some of the relationships unless you are asked about them previously.

For lab, utilize upperclassmen to tutor you. We had an intern as our tutor and it was worth every penny.

I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I knew someone who failed anatomy, was placed in our class, failed the first block, then hauled ass 24/7 to pass.

You're not stupid, you clearly made it to med school.

What you need to do is figure out WHY you failed so you can address those factors. You said you studied your butt off, so maybe you need to study *differently* than you did before.

Was your problem with the practical or with the written aspect?
Was your problem memorizing names of structures?

I did extremely well in anatomy, here was my regimen:
- Watched Acland's DVDs for the particular block (buy them off Amazon!), this introduced me to the anatomy in the area
- Read Moore's Essential clinical anatomy for the area, referred to Big Moore when I needed more detail
- Watched UMich (http://anatomy.med.umich.edu/) AND UWisc (http://www.anatomy.wisc.edu/teaching.html) anatomy videos, since those videos highlighted the most important structures
- Did ALL the quiz questions from UMich at least 2-3 days before the test
- Did ALL the BRS anatomy questions about 4-5 days before a test
- Week before a test, went through BRS and made sure I knew everything and knew important anatomical relationships to each other.
- Used Netter / Muscle flashcards, referred to Netter to draw out anastomoses, made diagrams, etc.
- Went to lab every night for a week before the test and found EVERYTHING I needed to find.

Where did you lose points in? What intimidated you on the test? What did you get wrong? Which block was tough for you?

 

[Ypo.]

Anyone ever failed a class in med. school and had to repeat it? I am feeling pretty down for not passing anatomy and I have to take it again over the summer. I'm worried that it's an indication that I'm not cut out for med. school, though I've never considered quitting or anything like that because I absolutely love it. And I find that I'm really good at the clinical stuff, so that should mean something, right? I just hope that it doesn't mean that I'll struggle all throughout. I'm also worried about not passing the summer course because I studied my butt off this past semester and nothing came of it. Any helpful thoughts or suggestions?

Don't feel too bad. I know lots of people who have had to retake classes or individual tests. Medical school is really hard, especially the first semester. Did you do OK in the rest of your classes? If so, then I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Have you utilized the academic help your school provides (such as tutors, nightly study groups)? Our school offered tutors and study groups (we had an anthro student that would walk us through the lab and point out all the structures) and it really gave the students who took that option an edge.

 

[Ypo.]

And p.s.-holy crap! You guys did way more work than I ever did in anatomy! (you planning on going into surgery or something?)😀


I spent most of my time in the lab, because our lab practicals were worth more. Plus I liked lab and hated reading about anatomy (possibly the most boring subject ever).

 

[Izabelle]

I did utilize the school tutoring but it's peer tutoring and didn't seem to help too much.

I did okay in my other classes but was close in one of them, mostly because I neglected it for anatomy in the beginning.

I struggled more with the lab stuff than the written, probably for several reasons. I have trouble with 3-dimensional stuff and noone in our group was very good at dissecting so we had crappy study material from that standpoint. Also, we didn't mesh well so we didn't help each other out - I tried to get the group together but it didn't work.

Thanks for the suggestions and encouragement.

 

[Twitch]

I wish someone was selling their Acland's DVDs. I don't want to pay $150+ for brand new ones, esp since they are from 2003. Oddly enough they seem to come out every 3 years. So the next one should be out by now, yeah?

 

[fatman41]

Anatomy serves little purpose for your future since you will have only 5-15 of 350 questions on the subject for Step I. You need to talk to the upper classmen about what to study. For example, it's inexcuseable not to know the brachial plexus and its associated lesions. Those are the only questions you are guaranteed to be asked about and any upper classmen would have told you that. You also need to buy First Aid for Step I. Their outline of anatomy is all you will ever need to know for Step I, and you will notice that the brachial plexus is one of the few things they cover in depth hence it provides you an idea on which subject to focus. Also focus on the big picture. You're not going to get credit for knowing muscle actions if you can't identify it on the practical.

 

[ShyRem]

Two words: body surf. Be sure to look at other cadavers than just your own. Every cadaver looks different -- and hope you get a group that's not TOO competitive that will tell everyone when there's something weird/different/strange on their body. Seems every stinkin' time there's an odd attachment somewhere it gets tagged.

 

[Tired]

Anatomy serves little purpose for your future since you will have only 5-15 of 350 questions on the subject for Step I.

Unless, you know, you have to take clinical rotations your 3rd year, or have any interest in field that does procedures . . .

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

Your number one priority now needs to be passing everything else. We can't fail 2 course or fall below a cumulative 75 or else it's first year all over again; don't know if it's the same with you. Just forget about anatomy right now and focus on your other classes. As others have mentioned, hundreds of med students fail stuff every year -- classes, Step exams, even whole years. It doesn't mean you're dumb unless you don't learn from your mistakes and do it right next go round. Luck!

 

[fatman41]

It's called Netter's, and you look at it before the surgery during third year. Your dry crusty cadaver has anatomy that looks nothing like surgical anatomy in a live body that you will see in surgery. Also, every anatomy pimp question I was ever asked was included in Surgical Recall, so it should not be an issue. Don't worry about third year until you take care of Step I. Your interest in fields that involve procedures is irrevelant if you choke on Step I. Take care of Step I and you can do all the procedures you desire. If you want to kill yourself over 5/350 questions (the answers to which are in First Aid), go right ahead. I suspect our initial poster made a similar mistake learning muscle actions instead of the brachial plexus.

 

[Tired]

Your interest in fields that involve procedures is irrevelant if you choke on Step I. Take care of Step I and you can do all the procedures you desire.

I dunno, the OP may be boned already. Hard to imagine a surgical program taking an applicant who failed anatomy . . .

 

[Ypo.]

I don't know. I figure once you actually start seeing patients the anatomy that is important you will know it because you use it, and the anatomy you won't know is the stuff you won't ever really use.

As far as general practitioners- the dermatomes are important and your basic anatomical landmarks, but aside from that they don't remember much. At least not the ones I've talked to.

But hey; it's great if you learned it really well in medical school. It certainly doesn't hurt.

 

[Ypo.]

I dunno, the OP may be boned already. Hard to imagine a surgical program taking an applicant who failed anatomy . . .

Heh. I would think a person that took anatomy twice would sure as heck be a lot more comfortable with it than I am. 😀

 

[Law2Doc]

I dunno, the OP may be boned already. Hard to imagine a surgical program taking an applicant who failed anatomy . . .

A really high Step 1 and a lot of rave reviews during rotations might negate that. The first year really doesn't carry that much weight. But it certainly won't help.

 

[Igor]

Anatomy has little to do with anything clinical. It's just one of those things we do.

I failed anatomy my 1st year old med school - only course I ever failed in my life. Got a 47. Re-took the course between 1st and 2nd year. Got a 94 that time.

It ended up having absolutely no effect on my career at all. I still got interviews (and not a single person ever asked about anatomy), matched at the program of my choice, graduated residency on time and then got a great job after residency.

I know it seems like a big deal but it's one course. Once you take physiology and the rest of 1st year, come back to anatomy over the summer. Figure out what you need to pass and it will start to click.

This is not any indication that you are bad med student, that you'll be a bad doctor, or that your life is ruined. Your summer is ruined - that's it.

Trust me, one week into 2nd year no one will care any more, not even you.

Igor

 

[Izabelle]

Thanks to all of you for the encouragment....except for you "Tired." I guess you're "tired" of being nice.

But the rest of you were very encouraging and, from what I'm hearing, seem to be correct. In a way, I agree with the fact that I will probably be really comfortable with anatomy after the summer course. That's me looking on the bright side.

And to answer your questions....I knew the brachial plexus. I actually did fine on the written exams and very poorly on the practicals. I did not go around to other cadavers until the last block and it didn't seem to help...was probably too late. I tried to go around to others but we were always behind on the dissections. I just seem to have a problem with the 3-dimensional stuff. I can recite it all from Netter's and draw it and explain it, but I have trouble identifying it in a cadaver. It didn't help that my group was awful too. We were really all bad at dissecting and one was very competitive, one was a total bimbo and the other just kept everything to himself. I made the mistake of sharing everything I had or created but they didn't do the same. And they wouldn't work together, no matter how much I tried to get us on the same page.

Also, I did some clinical stuff over the holidays and found that I understood all of the anatomy that came up. I was surprised at how much it came up in primary care but I was also surprised that I knew it all...mostly basic, but still.

So I am taking your suggestions and focusing on this semester so I don't have to repeat the year. Then I'll give it my all (AGAIN) this summer and hopefully come out of this an anatomy wizard.

Thanks again for the encouragment and advice. I really do appreciate it.

 

[freelow]

Izabelle, four things:

1) One thing that really helped me was to pick 3 bodies. Whatever you find on one body, you should be able to find on the other two. (Most schools have some type of hit lists. These are your lifeline. You should always know these hands down.)

2) Relationships, Relationships, Relationship...we tend to make anatomy harder than it actually is...if you see a relationship that is there go for it. For instance, our friend the phrenic nerve....it always follows anterior to the anterior scalene mm. and deep to the carotid shealth. You should be able to use this relationship to find this nerve on the other two bodies.

3) I know its a lot of memorization...however, I noticed many times I would study things that I knew would probably not make it to the test when I could have used this time more efficently. For instance, when studying the cutaneous nerve and veineous distribution....I knew that most of these structures would be damaged to reach deeper structures, however something in me kept forcing me to study them even though...it never appeared on test1,2 or any of the mocks. I know as a medical student we tend to want to know everything about everything...but follow your hit lists first.

4) Main things to keep in mind with targets organs are: location, attachments, function, nerve and blood suppy. Our lectures did a good job providing an outline on what we needed to study. If stressed on time you might have to neglect shears and use your lecture as an outline for your lab.

 

[Igor]

The coloring books will help if you do well on the written exams and have trouble with the practicals.

Igor

 

[Hurricane95]

Anatomy is possibly the most difficult course any of us will take during our pre-clinical years. For many reasons, especially the fact that it is a ton of material presented very quickly in a loose format that needs to be memorized. Don't be down about it, keep your head up high and focus on your current classes for the moment. It won't do you any good to be distracted by being upset and then messing up your current courses. When summer comes around, give it everything you've got. Don't be worried if you don't retain that much of it either...we will review relevant anatomy again in each organ module when the time comes, and very little of it is actually tested on step 1. Like others have mentioned, first aid gives you all the anatomy you need to retain. You will eventually retain it all as you work through the organ systems and then the rotations. After all, anatomy in a cadaver looks very different from a living human in the OR anyway. You'll do well, good luck.

 

[vtucci]

I almost failed anatomy and I absolutely hated first year. A number of students in my class failed the year although I have no idea which specific classes they failed. Hang in there.

Second year is much, much easier for me. I love pathology and micro. I have the kind of mind that needs to know why I need to memorize something. Give it to me in a context (like a disease process) and I will remember it until kingdom come but without that context, it does not matter.

Just gut it out. If you can retake it over the summer, go at it with all you've got. It will be okay.

 

[Tired]

Thanks to all of you for the encouragment....except for you "Tired." I guess you're "tired" of being nice.

When our fellow SDN posters start suggesting that an "F" in anatomy will have no effect on your future, and is an insignificant part of your medical education, I feel obligated to speak up. Sorry if you feel that is unkind. When you post on a public forum, you take what you get. If you needed a hug, there are better places to get it than strangers on the 'net.

Good luck.

 

[MystikBliss]

When our fellow SDN posters start suggesting that an "F" in anatomy will have no effect on your future, and is an insignificant part of your medical education, I feel obligated to speak up. Sorry if you feel that is unkind. When you post on a public forum, you take what you get. If you needed a hug, there are better places to get it than strangers on the 'net.

Good luck.

Ummmm Tired, quit being an @$$...I've read a lot of your posts and you are definitely the kind of person that the rest of us NORMAL students can't stand...

ANYWAY...Izabelle, girl, hope you've picked your head up by now. Anatomy was really hard for me too and had me thinking I was an idiot because "everyone" else thought it was easy. I damn near didn't pass anatomy. I've done great in my other classes. Some of us (like me & you) had a harder time in anatomy b/c for some reason or another, our brains weren't trained to think like that and had to learn how to too fast. My preceptors for one of my classes (6 ER docs) have repeatedly told us to just pass your classes in the first 2 years and that's all that counts. Then bust your ass the next two. So this summer, kick anatomy in the friggin face and move on with your life. Dumb people don't make it to med school. AND THIS IS FOR YOU TIRED --> ::I'm giving Izy a hug and patting her on the back as a friendly stranger:: 😍

 

[Izabelle]

When our fellow SDN posters start suggesting that an "F" in anatomy will have no effect on your future, and is an insignificant part of your medical education, I feel obligated to speak up. Sorry if you feel that is unkind. When you post on a public forum, you take what you get. If you needed a hug, there are better places to get it than strangers on the 'net.

Good luck.

"Tired," I appreciate your honesty but, from what my professors are saying, it really isn't that big of a deal. And I honestly don't think that they are the types to just tell me what I want to hear. I know what you're saying and I do want realistic opinions. And honestly, by looking at your other posts, it looks like you often put the more negative spin on things, which is just your nature. I can handle that. But I really needed some constructive criticism, which everyone else provided. And I needed a little bit of encouragement, not necessarily "hugs." And in this field, I also think that it's important for us to pick up on subtle signals from other people and react to them appropriately - public forum or not. It was clear that I needed encouragement and many people picked up on that and responded appropriately.

Thank you for your response though.

 

[turkleton]

In general, if you SN is Tired you might not have the rosiest outlook on medicine... just a thought.

Anatomy is the backbreaker of med school, but unfortunately it's also your first class. It's your hazing into the life you're about to enter. I did well in anatomy, but it wasn't without frustration and plenty of discouragment along the way. The material is interesting, but that class SUCKS... it is the epitome of drowning in knowledge. You failing is not the equivalent of being a failure and its reprecussions aren't that big. You're still going to be an MD grad and if you do well the rest of the way- which you probably will given how much you care- you'll be fine. Take the class again, you'll probably enjoy it more since you have like 80% of it covered, pass it and never think twice about your decision. Best of luck.

 

[Tired]

In general, if you SN is Tired you might not have the rosiest outlook on medicine... just a thought.

Yeah, but at least with my SN you'll never be confused about my mindset. Not like with dutchman, where you're thinking "Oh, Holland! Land of clogs, tulips, and hot blonde chicks!" Then you read his posts and find out he's even more of a downer than I am . . . 😀

In my defense, in this thread all I did was respond to specific comments about specific issues, and never addressed the OP's post specifically. Sorry if I dragged the OP down. I'll shut up now so the encouragement can continue without my intrusive comments.

 

[Izabelle]

Oh, Tired. You sound so tired. It's all good. Perhaps you and I were just having a bad day at the same time. No hard feelings.

And thanks to all of you for the great pointers...they were very specific ideas that I will certainly incorporate into my study regime for the summer class.

And thanks for the support and encouragement too. While it's very easy to be anonymous and feeling-less in an internet forum, it's nice that people can reach out as well. As you all know, your own med. school class is not generally a source of comfort, due to the competition. So it was nice to find some encouragement and sympathy for my situation. If nothing else, the reminders that I'm not a total idiot are nice...you all know how self-defeating us Type-A personalities can be and how demeaning the med. school process can be too.

Thanks again!

 

[shivasHeroLike]

i kinda have a real specific question if you guys don't mind answer for me

our exam questions are clinical vignettes with something like: patient X having pain in the center of their back

how do i figure out which nerve is effected ?

i've heard people say to memorize dermatome diagrams and correspond the vertebral number with its brachial plexus nerve that comes out

or just think about what muscles are there and hopefully you memorized the nerve that supplies it


are these the best way to figure things out ?

 

[vtucci]

Blumenfeld's neuroanatomy has some great charts of the different distributions and has the high yield clinical info for the nerve distributions. More importantly, it summarizes what you need to know in a few pages (as opposed to hundreds in Moore) and then has a ton of examples for you to practice.

If I had only seen those charts and cases before I finished anatomy.... Ah well.

 

[shivasHeroLike]

thanks!

hey are those charts available online ?

 

[Sondra]

i kinda have a real specific question if you guys don't mind answer for me

our exam questions are clinical vignettes with something like: patient X having pain in the center of their back

how do i figure out which nerve is effected ?

i've heard people say to memorize dermatome diagrams and correspond the vertebral number with its brachial plexus nerve that comes out

or just think about what muscles are there and hopefully you memorized the nerve that supplies it


are these the best way to figure things out ?

Try http://www.instantanatomy.net/

My grades really improved after I bought the instant anatomy book (I didn't know they had a website until I got the book)

 

[shivasHeroLike]

any specific advice for the head & neck section ?

 

[deleted77919]

any specific advice for the head & neck section ?

Learn the skull well. All those little holes matter. Then learn the cranial nerves. I made little flow charts of all the branches, where each innervated etc.

Neck isn't too bad, a couple of fascial sheaths, a few relationships between vessels, muscles. nerves, etc but nothing any different than you've done in thorax/abdomen.

Just my $0.02

 

[dilated]

When our fellow SDN posters start suggesting that an "F" in anatomy will have no effect on your future, and is an insignificant part of your medical education, I feel obligated to speak up. Sorry if you feel that is unkind. When you post on a public forum, you take what you get. If you needed a hug, there are better places to get it than strangers on the 'net.

Good luck.

Some schools replace the F with the passing grade when you retake. In that case it would obviously have no impact on your future.

 

[jonathon]

Anyone ever failed a class in med. school and had to repeat it? I am feeling pretty down for not passing anatomy and I have to take it again over the summer. I'm worried that it's an indication that I'm not cut out for med. school, though I've never considered quitting or anything like that because I absolutely love it. And I find that I'm really good at the clinical stuff, so that should mean something, right? I just hope that it doesn't mean that I'll struggle all throughout. I'm also worried about not passing the summer course because I studied my butt off this past semester and nothing came of it. Any helpful thoughts or suggestions?

Please pm me your name so I know you won't be my doctor. 😎

 

[Doctor Dear]

Please pm me your name so I know you won't be my doctor. 😎

D!ickhead

 

[smq123]

Please pm me your name so I know you won't be my doctor. 😎

And then be sure to PM the OP YOUR name, so she can warn her school's adcom not to admit you.

Seriously - unless you've had to adjust to med school, and had to take anatomy at that level, no one wants to hear it.

 

[silas2642]

Please pm me your name so I know you won't be my doctor. 😎

Go to hell. Seriously. Are you even in med school yet? Anatomy is one of those things that isn't hard because there isn't anything to understand and you sit there for hours studying Netter's and Rohen's and you finally have every single little structure memorized until you can see it in your sleep and then you go into the lab and realize that your future "Dr. Burke-wanna-be-cardiothoracic-surgeon/lab-partner has cut through everything and made your cadaver look like a piece of hamburger and that the femoral triangle has been diced to mincemeat and that you didn't see any of it and that it's going to be tagged on the exam, as "what was supposed to be here and list all its functions?" So you look around the class for another body but then you realized all the other future surgeons of America have pretty much done the same thing because you're all first years and don't know jack **** and all suck at dissections. So give the girl a break, would you you dingus?

 

[Genetics]

Go to hell. Seriously. Are you even in med school yet? Anatomy is one of those things that isn't hard because there isn't anything to understand and you sit there for hours studying Netter's and Rohen's and you finally have every single little structure memorized until you can see it in your sleep and then you go into the lab and realize that your future "Dr. Burke-wanna-be-cardiothoracic-surgeon/lab-partner has cut through everything and made your cadaver look like a piece of hamburger and that the femoral triangle has been diced to mincemeat and that you didn't see any of it and that it's going to be tagged on the exam, as "what was supposed to be here and list all its functions?" So you look around the class for another body but then you realized all the other future surgeons of America have pretty much done the same thing because you're all first years and don't know jack **** and all suck at dissections. So give the girl a break, would you you dingus?

LOL. Are you cranky today? I was playing reverse psychology.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

LOL. Are you cranky today? I was playing reverse psychology.

You do know that you're not supposed to post with multiple user names, don't you? 🙄

 

[71263]

At my school, we have a retake policy. If you fail a class, you are given an 'NR' for the class and you take an exam at the end of the year for that class. That exam is cumulative for all the material of that class and is all or nothing. 70% to pass. If you pass, your 'NR' is replaced by a 'C' and youre done. If you fail, your 'NR' is replaced by an 'F' and you decelerate (need to take a 5th year to finish medical school. I nearly failed anatomy lecture but barely passed in the end. I only had one retake exam to do at the end of first year, and made it through.

 

[silas2642]

LOL. Are you cranky today? I was playing reverse psychology.

Ooh. Sorry, didn't know you were doing the reverse psychology thing. Sometimes you just don't know with these threads because people here can get really cocky...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

At my school, we have a retake policy. If you fail a class, you are given an 'NR' for the class and you take an exam at the end of the year for that class. That exam is cumulative for all the material of that class and is all or nothing. 70% to pass. If you pass, your 'NR' is replaced by a 'C' and youre done. If you fail, your 'NR' is replaced by an 'F' and you decelerate (need to take a 5th year to finish medical school. I nearly failed anatomy lecture but barely passed in the end. I only had one retake exam to do at the end of first year, and made it through.

I think that's the way they do it at my school, too. No matter what you get on the remediating exam, you can't get higher than a 70% in the class. However, I think your grade just pops up as a C with no notation that you had to remediate.

 

[71263]

I think that's the way they do it at my school, too. No matter what you get on the remediating exam, you can't get higher than a 70% in the class. However, I think your grade just pops up as a C with no notation that you had to remediate.

Yeahh, thats how it is with us. Nobody can complain. Much better to get a C than an F, after all. 🙂

 

[shivasHeroLike]

Thanks Dakota

i like your idea of flow charts, i realize that the more i draw and create visual representations.. the better i retain the material

hopefully this next exam i do better than the first.lol

thanks again for your advice.

 

[Tired Pigeon]

I think that's the way they do it at my school, too. No matter what you get on the remediating exam, you can't get higher than a 70% in the class. However, I think your grade just pops up as a C with no notation that you had to remediate.

Policy varies by school. At my school, the remediation is definitely noted on your transcript/dean's letter.