Final date to hold multiple spots?

[LaDentista1]

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I vaguely remember interviewers saying that there was a particular day during the cycle when the schools share their lists. Aka - you need to be holding only one spot by then.

Does anyone know what that date is?

 

[pacific2013]

Applicants holding positions at multiple institutions. Dental schools participating in AADSAS will report to AADSAS by May 1, the names and identification numbers of candidates who have paid a deposit and/or hold a position in their entering class. After May 5, AADSAS will report to each institution the names of candidates in their entering class who are holding acceptance(s) at additional institutions. Dental schools will have the option of rescinding an offer of admission to candidates who have paid deposits and are holding positions at multiple institutions. Dental schools with candidates holding multiple positions on May 1of the year of admission will give such candidates a minimum 15-day notice if they choose to withdraw them from the entering class. This policy will be evaluated every two years by the ADEA Section of Dental School Admissions Officers to assess its impact on applicants and dental schools and provide applicants a reasonable time-frame to complete their enrollment process.

http://www.adea.org/dental_educatio... Guidelines Traffic Rules for AADSAS 2007.pdf

 

[teh dentist]

I hope you guys aren't holding spots at Temple. 😕

 

[alec0884]

I vaguely remember interviewers saying that there was a particular day during the cycle when the schools share their lists. Aka - you need to be holding only one spot by then.

Does anyone know what that date is?

I hope you are not intending on holding spots so late into the cycle.......😡

 

[Tommy43087]

I hope you are not intending on holding spots so late into the cycle.......😡

Im sure he/she is.....usually people that hold multiple down are pretty greedy....plus he/she asking for that date seems like their gunna stretch it out


and dont given me any of the extenuating circumstances BS, if it is then disregard, but most likely it is not....so....

 

[yuppers]

Seriously, just make the decision instead of wasting more of the school's time, another pre-dent's time, and your mommy and daddy's money.

 

[subdoc]

I am in the school of thought a person is entitled to hold on to multiple offers as long as he/she pleases. They earned them. Sure, it stinks for those on waitlists, but the one holding the offer was deemed the better candidate.

Waste of mommy and daddy's money, come on? Seriously? Quit throwing stones in the forum. If people want to sit on their offers, so be it.

 

[teethmagnet]

i completly agree with subdoc and disagree with the rest of you

its unfortunate that not everyone can interview at their top choices early, so when you only have one offer you send a deposit, and then as you gain more acceptances you narrow down your choices,

i dnt think thats greedy, i think if you paid $X you have the right to hold your spot until you wish

so suck it up,
dont hate the players, hate the game

 

[molarbear]

Subdoc, no one was saying that a certain predent was not the better candidate for the position. They were just stating it is a waste of time for multiple parties when holding multiple offers. It is a big decision to make, but they have seen everything about those schools and spoken with faculty/students at those institutions. It's now time for them to sit down and decide their future.

 

[teethmagnet]

Subdoc, no one was saying that a certain predent was not the better candidate for the position. They were just stating it is a waste of time for multiple parties when holding multiple offers. It is a big decision to make, but they have seen everything about those schools and spoken with faculty/students at those institutions. It's now time for them to sit down and decide their future.

i think they should take as much time as they need
its quite a large decision

 

[molarbear]

i completly agree with subdoc and disagree with the rest of you

its unfortunate that not everyone can interview at their top choices early, so when you only have one offer you send a deposit, and then as you gain more acceptances you narrow down your choices,

i dnt think thats greedy, i think if you paid $X you have the right to hold your spot until you wish

so suck it up,
dont hate the players, hate the game

I do agree with this, but I don't know that that is the case for everyone. The cycle is slowing down and acceptances aren't coming out as readily as before. What they have now may most likely be it. Although, who knows.

 

[subdoc]

Subdoc, no one was saying that a certain predent was not the better candidate for the position. They were just stating it is a waste of time for multiple parties when holding multiple offers. It is a big decision to make, but they have seen everything about those schools and spoken with faculty/students at those institutions. It's now time for them to sit down and decide their future.

You have your opinion and I have mine. As long as the candidate keeps paying the first and second deposits, they can sit on their decision as long as they like. They earned the right to do so. I don't see it as a waste of time at all, maybe a waste of money, but only the person holding multiple deposits/offer can determine if it is really a waste.

People need to stop complaining about this matter as it is not their fight to fight. To say someone has seen everything they need to know about a school after the interview is completely FALSE! Moving someplace for four years is quite a commitment. I can say this as fact as I have not lived in the same place for four years since high school in 1996.

Don't be hating on someone for taking their time on a life-changing decision which is not yours to make. They earned their right to take as long as they wish (as long as $$$ will allow.)

 

[THINKOFMYFUTURE]

Ooh, Ooh, an INTERNET FIGHTZ!

 

[alec0884]

to make those aware who are not in a complete understanding of what our grievances are, it is not that an individual puts down a deposit at one school while holding out for another, it is that an individual has kept more than one of their acceptances (or intends to until May).

subdoc's opinion that they have the right to sit on a school for as long as they wish is greedy and childish. Up to now most of us have been familiar with the schools we have applied to for almost a year. Prior to interviews you should have had a fair idea of which ones you preferred over others and by now should very well know.

If you don't see that holding on to multiple acceptances as a problem....realize that we are all in limbo as we wait for seats to open up, acceptances be made and offers withdrawn. If people hold up the process it affects all of us.

to the OP and any others with multiple acceptances i understand the decision to perhaps be difficult....but i am sure if you thought it over for this long you fully well know which school you prefer....make your decision

 

[goffdent]

If someone is holding multiple acceptances, there will always be at least one more spot opening up. If not tomorrow, it will open up as soon as they decline the offer. For example, If i spend 1,000 dollars to hold a deposit on more than one school, that's a lot of money that I will never get back, I have earned and payed for the opportunity to make an INFORMED decision. You can say you're wasting the school's time, but is their time worth $1,000 to you? I doubt it. For the people left waiting, that offer will eventually come, it just may not come in the next week or the next month, but it will come for some lucky person. For housing and relocation purposes it's nice to know farther in advance.. sure.. But isn't it worth it to get that call or email or status change on your addsas at some point rather than never? Give people time, some probably never thought they would be in this position and that it would be easy, but once you're put into the situation, it isn't necessarily a no-brainer.

 

[Predoctalk]

Ooh, Ooh, an INTERNET FIGHTZ!

Lol, This whole conversation is irrelevant because it is not likely to sway an individual holding multiple deposits. In addition, the ADEA deems it "acceptable" as it is possible to do so until May 1st...

 

[yuppers]

If people want to sit on their offers, so be it.

And what is the point of "sitting" on the offers and delaying the decision?

i completly agree with subdoc and disagree with the rest of you

its unfortunate that not everyone can interview at their top choices early, so when you only have one offer you send a deposit, and then as you gain more acceptances you narrow down your choices,

According to the second paragraph, you agree with us since we are saying that the OP should narrow down his/her choices as quickly as possible. Unlike subdoc who says it is alright to hold off on the decision as long as they wish.
But even if the OP is waiting for his/her top choice, there is no point on stretching the time until deciding between the other schools.


But I agree with you two if the OP is having a hard time deciding. But that does not seem to be the case if the OP is asking when schools share their lists instead of making a school A vs school B thread to help the decision making process.

 

[alec0884]

If someone is holding multiple acceptances, there will always be at least one more spot opening up. If not tomorrow, it will open up as soon as they decline the offer. For example, If i spend 1,000 dollars to hold a deposit on more than one school, that's a lot of money that I will never get back, I have earned and payed for the opportunity to make an INFORMED decision. You can say you're wasting the school's time, but is their time worth $1,000 to you? I doubt it. For the people left waiting, that offer will eventually come, it just may not come in the next week or the next month, but it will come for some lucky person. For housing and relocation purposes it's nice to know farther in advance.. sure.. But isn't it worth it to get that call or email or status change on your addsas at some point rather than never? Give people time, some probably never thought they would be in this position and that it would be easy, but once you're put into the situation, it isn't necessarily a no-brainer.

no one expects these decisions to be easy.....but they should be made in a timely manner.

and if an offer will eventually come i hope you see the inconvenience it causes when it doesn't arrive until May or June....because by then most people who have not gotten in will have made other commitments, spent more money, and been forced to scramble last minute.....like i said be mature about it, think it over, and make your decision

 

[goffdent]

I also want to say that some may think they know what school they want to go to, pay their deposits, then are offered other acceptances with additional "incentives" such as scholarships... ooooh Well then it looks pretty appealing to go to an additional school... Now it becomes more complicated than just choosing based on what you see at an interview or on a school's website, which is primarily all the info you ever get!!

 

[pacific2013]

I would also like to add that this rule implemented by the ADEA was added in 2007 to help the issue with multiple deposit because there was no such rule before. Pre-2007, applicants were able to hold spots until July, August, or September. But with this rule, it has been shortened to May and have become mandatory so I think everyone should be glad that such rule exist.

I just want to say stop attacking the OP because it's completely fair game for the OP to keep multiple deposit until May if he/she chooses to do so.

 

[subdoc]

subdoc's opinion that they have the right to sit on a school for as long as they wish is greedy and childish.

The only thing childish going on is people whining about something not in their control.

"If you don't like something, change it, if you can't change it, change the way you think about it."

Greedy? Well, that opinion would be in the eye of he who holds multiple offers.

Throughout time, people have coveted what others have. Sorry some may not find out until the bitter end. Unfortunately, that is life. If not getting into a school this cycle is the worst thing to happen to you, get some perspective and realize things could be A LOT worse. I can say this from experience from being on the other end of the previous statement SEVERAL times.

 

[dl9006]

people with multiple offers have worked hard to receive acceptances from different schools and it's their right to hold on to these seats until they feel ready to decide.

however, out of consideration for those who are dying to hear back from schools, please try to make a decision as soon as you are ready.

i know from waiting for a couple of months after my interview that waiting for an acceptance is enough to make you insane..

 

[alec0884]

The only thing childish going on is people whining about something not in their control.

"If you don't like something, change it, if you can't change it, change the way you think about it."

Greedy? Well, that opinion would be in the eye of he who holds multiple offers.

Throughout time, people have coveted what others have. Sorry some may not find out until the bitter end. Unfortunately, that is life. If not getting into a school this cycle is the worst thing to happen to you, get some perspective and realize things could be A LOT worse. I can say this from experience from being on the other end of the previous statement SEVERAL times.

don't worry about me subdoc....I got into my school. but I atleast have the consideration to not hurt others in an action that doesn't even benefit me.

someone mentioned that the adea doesn't look down on multiple deposits....FALSE. they didn't have this date before for checking applicant acceptances and now they do because some individuals justify holding on to seats that they could have opened up long before.

if you were given a list of schools to which you were accepted you should be able to make a decision in 2 months time....how many factors do you possibly have to consider.

and that whole "i have the right" argument is petty....i mean come on, grow up.

 

[LaDentista1]

Well, obviously there is a lot of stress and frustration and you should all know that I understand your annoyance at people who are just holding on to spots because of laziness or lack of consideration. I think daily about the fact that there are people out there freaking out about answers and I kick my own ass for holding on to someone else's spot. I already and immediately gave up my offers at multiple schools and am only holding on to the two that I am seriously considering and between which I having the most stressful and difficult time deciding. I will not hold them until May, rather I'll probably know for sure in the next couple of weeks, I only wanted to make sure that I had not yet missed that date. But I get it... it's a rough game and I wish you all the best of luck.

 

[alec0884]

Well, obviously there is a lot of stress and frustration and you should all know that I understand your annoyance at people who are just holding on to spots because of laziness or lack of consideration. I think daily about the fact that there are people out there freaking out about answers and I kick my own ass for holding on to someone else's spot. I already and immediately gave up my offers at multiple schools and am only holding on to the two that I am seriously considering and between which I having the most stressful and difficult time deciding. I will not hold them until May, rather I'll probably know for sure in the next couple of weeks, I only wanted to make sure that I had not yet missed that date. But I get it... it's a rough game and I wish you all the best of luck.

I understand the difficulty.....good luck making your decision

 

[subdoc]

don't worry about me subdoc....I got into my school. but I atleast have the consideration to not hurt others in an action that doesn't even benefit me.

'Grats. I did as well. I thought you should also know I am not holding multiple offers, even though they were received.

Funny how you get all in my business for defending the OP on their right, yet you defend the OP when they are the one languishing on the decision of holding on to multiple offers.

 

[alec0884]

'Grats. I did as well. I thought you should also know I am not holding multiple offers, even though they were received.

Funny how you get all in my business for defending the OP on their right, yet you defend the OP when they are the one languishing on the decision of holding on to multiple offers.

I would recommend that you read all your posts over again (as well as those of mine and the OP)......

You made it evident that any consideration of others was negligible and that no time frame should be made in making the decision.....the OP on the other hand has openly admitted to the importance of making the decision quickly and will be doing so soon.

it is your disregard for others that made my blood boil......and I am sure having this conversation in person with fellow pre-dents would make taking your point of view much more difficult......I would be ashamed if it were me

 

[subdoc]

I would recommend that you read all your posts over again (as well as those of mine and the OP)......

You made it evident that any consideration of others was negligible and that no time frame should be made in making the decision.....the OP on the other hand has openly admitted to the importance of making the decision quickly and will be doing so soon.

it is your disregard for others that made my blood boil......and I am sure having this conversation in person with classmates would make taking your point of view much more difficult......I would be ashamed if it were me

I have read the posts you refer to, and also read them before I commented previously.

Fact. Consideration of others IS negligible on deciding on dental school. Do you think Suzy should care about Johnny's feelings when making their decision? I am not saying it is the "human-thing" to do, but their "earned-thing" nonetheless. I will say this...when making my choice, my only consideration was for myself and for my family. Cold? Not a chance. Smart? Yes. If I factored in the feelings of the several hundred to several thousand other hopefuls, I would not be making an informed decision which is best for me and my family. If OP, or anyone else needs more time to decide, like Bobby Brown crooned, it is their prerogative.

I see you take my statement of opinion to be a snapshot of my character. Please don't be so quick to judge people as it will only come back to bite you. For one, you don't know me from a stranger you pass on a sidewalk, but in a short afternoon you have called me, "greedy, and childish"...and have implied I have no character and am inconsiderate to others. Now, please tell me who is the childish one? Maybe you should go back and read YOUR posts.

 

[subdoc]

BTW, looking at posts 14 and 25 you lose credibility. (this was after the whole reading-the-posts-over-again-thing.)

 

[alec0884]

I have read the posts you refer to, and also read them before I commented previously.

Fact. Consideration of others IS negligible on deciding on dental school. Do you think Suzy should care about Johnny's feelings when making their decision? I am not saying it is the "human-thing" to do, but their "earned-thing" nonetheless. I will say this...when making my choice, my only consideration was for myself and for my family. Cold? Not a chance. Smart? Yes. If I factored in the feelings of the several hundred to several thousand other hopefuls, I would not be making an informed decision which is best for me and my family. If OP, or anyone else needs more time to decide, like Bobby Brown crooned, it is their prerogative.

I see you take my statement of opinion to be a snapshot of my character. Please don't be so quick to judge people as it will only come back to bite you. For one, you don't know me from a stranger you pass on a sidewalk, but in a short afternoon you have called me, "greedy, and childish"...and have implied I have no character and am inconsiderate to others. Now, please tell me who is the childish one? Maybe you should go back and read YOUR posts.

Lets break it down, because you obviously misunderstood....."consideration of others" is not in respect to which school you decide to attend but rather in the manner in which you go about making the decision. Why don't you go tell your friend bobby waiting to hear from the school that you will surely be withdrawing from that you're not ready (even though nothing is going to change your mind in the next two months).

it was your words in your posts that make it easy to make assumptions on your character
- "As long as the candidate keeps paying the first and second deposits, they can sit on their decision as long as they like. They earned the right to do so."
-"I am in the school of thought a person is entitled to hold on to multiple offers as long as he/she pleases. They earned them. Sure, it stinks for those on waitlists, but the one holding the offer was deemed the better candidate."

-these posts reek of childish and greedy character

The premise is simple, "is there any need to hold on to multiple schools for 6 months?" Your opinion is yes and it is one that I certainly do not agree with

 

[THINKOFMYFUTURE]