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Nope. An MD is a DO, and a DO is an MD.
For being your third post, you're certainly tracking downwards.
Ok. I do live in the real world. I don't have to lie to myself to make me feel better. I'm not saying it's right. Everyone messes up when they are younger and so DO is the only route to become a physician for some people ... and they can end up becoming great physicians. However, that does NOT mean the discrimination and stigma does not exist. Lieing to yourself does not make the problem go away, I'm sorry. DOs will face discrimination that MDs wont. It's pretty simple ... and painfully obvious.
In academic settings DO vs MD totally matters. Everywhere else, not so much.
The only settings where DOs face discrimination versus their MD counterparts is prestigious academic institutions. Everywhere else they're pretty equal.
And you know that because you worked in both an academic institution and private sector and were plugged in with human resources and participated in hiring physicians?
I know that because I spent many years in a top academic institution, taking with the best of the best DOs, learning about their struggle to make it into Big Ivy. Couple that with the experience I've got working with DOs from my school that made it into low-to-mid tier academics, and I've got a decent picture.
And that residency training ... the one that determines the value that you have as a physician to the real world ... bases their selection on YOUR DEGREE!
Lol no it just irks me when people lie to themselves
Of course it is.
Of course the bias is common? Have you been around any real medicine?
Yes I have. I'll give you this ... it may not be common in family medicine. .. but in every other field it is. I'm sorry. People will always want an MD over DO. That may change in 50 years but not before then.... for sure.
No one cares about your degree in private practice. Some top academic centers care, but that's about it. If you don't want to work in academics and don't want to do derm, plastics, neurosurgery, or any of the other ultra-competitive fields, being a DO really doesn't present any problems. This has been discussed ad nauseam in the physician forums and every single thread comes down to "I don't care where you went to school, I care that you're BC." Unless you somehow claim to know more than actual physicians that hire other physicians, in which case, I'm literally lacking in words.
The general public has no idea if their doctor is an MD or DO. There are many doctors I've met who graduated in the Caribbean or Guadalajara and none of their patients know or care.
So your saying everything is OK because the public is iggnorant? If a pt had to pick and sees the common MD initial after the names of 10 physicians and 1 DO ... what do you think that patient is going to think? That that DO is a super MD? Ignorance is a bad thing for you ... people fear what they don't know ... they will stay away from that DO initial and go with the more common MD. Again, not opinion. These are facts. And really easy ones to understand. You just don't want to accept it. Doesn't make it go away. Sorry bud.
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I never said there's a correlation. I actually said the opposite. You need to work on reading comprehension. I said there is a discrimination. And if you "chose" DO which is most likely not true, you chose to have an uphill battle for your career because you will always be viewed as inferior in the public eye. Not saying it's true but that's how the world sees it.
