For a friend..

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Which would you choose?

  • Tufts

    Votes: 50 90.9%
  • Lecom

    Votes: 5 9.1%

  • Total voters
    55

HookahLungs

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If you aren't going to pitch in with a comment, please at least just vote.

Hey guys, my friend has an acceptance at Tufts (he got accepted 1 week after I dropped..) and he already paid the deposit, it's been about a month and a half.

He just now received an acceptance from lecom and he's debating whether he should drop tufts for lecom.

Tufts is much more prestigious and established than lecom, but the living costs and tuition are ridiculous.

Lecom shows that he will withdraw 80k less in loans and he will also live in Florida, and at the end he will still become a dentist just like tufts students.

Question: which school would you choose? He likes both schools but he is really favoring the cost and location factor for lecom.
 
Tufts. LECOM has had issues with students failing their boards.
 
If lecom has corrected their problems I would go there but I'm biased because I live 45 minutes from there... On the other hand if I had a scholarship like HPSP I would choose tufts because of reputation and boston>bradenton (sarasota is cool but I'm used to it, again biased)

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70% fail rate on the ADEX typodont exam, and a bad patient pool. When the selling point of a school is removable dentistry you know the patient pool sucks. You are better off saving 300K and teaching yourself removable via youtube......

have you interviewed at both Mwu-az and lecom? Lecom is surely a wiser choice of the two for cheaper option and if you want to give ur future patients all dentures and fillings and cleanings, and a few crowns. the implants, endo, etc you learn in GPR and AGED. The thing about LECOM is their own representative admits finding 2 patients each day for each student is ALOT. like seriously? when you can't even have 2 patients a day, what is ur ambition to become a semi competent dentist upon graduation? and they make its students advertise at fairs and stuff.

one thing to note about LECOM is that their price is cheaper but not actually much cheaper because they make u buy the dental kit that is not included in the fees while MWU-az rents it out and include everything in the fees and other hidden fees at LECOM ( i calculate the price difference is about 70k after taking everything into account of both schools, which is a lot but given the quality difference of both school, i dont trust spending that huge loans on LECOM). However, after all i live in california which means flying from west coast to east coast for 4 years may total up to 10k (including car shipping and stuff). so the price difference is honestly 60k, which is still alot.

LECOM's patient pool has severe problems. they dont have much technologies. However, LECOM has no graduating class yet and words on the street say their first supposedly graduating class 4th year failed the typodont (idk if i spell correctly) up to 70%, yes the super expensive clinical boards)
yes, it is true that a dentist is a dentist at the end and same school graduates dentists with different qualities. however, I just want to have a good base to become a semi competent dentist to grow from there after graduation.

80k is a tough call. Your friend would have to do his/her homework regarding patient pool and board passing rate. If it's not changed. I would go to Tufts. If issues have been solved, I would go to Lecom.
2 scenarios if issues haven't been solved:
1 - Graduate from Lecom but know your clinical limitations = end up doing GPR, lose anywhere from 60~40 K income compared to a GP that starts right after at Tufts. 40~60k + 10~20k interest = 50k ~70k difference + 1 year lost.
2 - Graduate from Tufts, become GP right after, 80k more expensive, but can start working right away. (This is assuming one doesn't go to specialty or does GPR). In terms of board passing rate, either didactic or clinical, I know maybe a handful out of 200 students per class that didn't pass, their reason being 1) one of those students you wonder how they came to a dental school 2) just had a really bad luck with the patient or the whole process.

Poor patient pool is one thing, you can make up the experience in the GPR,AEGD or whatever. But fail rate of 70% (assuming the rumor is true), that means the school is not teaching students properly.
 
80k is a tough call. Your friend would have to do his/her homework regarding patient pool and board passing rate. If it's not changed. I would go to Tufts. If issues have been solved, I would go to Lecom.
2 scenarios if issues haven't been solved:
1 - Graduate from Lecom but know your clinical limitations = end up doing GPR, lose anywhere from 60~40 K income compared to a GP that starts right after at Tufts. 40~60k + 10~20k interest = 50k ~70k difference + 1 year lost.
2 - Graduate from Tufts, become GP right after, 80k more expensive, but can start working right away. (This is assuming one doesn't go to specialty or does GPR). In terms of board passing rate, either didactic or clinical, I know maybe a handful out of 200 students per class that didn't pass, their reason being 1) one of those students you wonder how they came to a dental school 2) just had a really bad luck with the patient or the whole process.

Poor patient pool is one thing, you can make up the experience in the GPR,AEGD or whatever. But fail rate of 70% (assuming the rumor is true), that means the school is not teaching students properly.
Excellent advice.
 
Seems like a no-brainer to me. Tufts. If LECOM screws you, you'll never get those four years back.
 
of course tufts. why did your friend even apply to tufts if he had a problem with the living costs and tuition.

He doesn't have an issue with the cost, but he's presented with a significantly cheaper option so the discussion arised.
 
of course tufts. why did your friend even apply to tufts if he had a problem with the living costs and tuition.

He doesn't have an issue with the cost, but he's presented with a significantly cheaper option so the discussion arised.
 
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