For Non-Trads: Things I Wished I Knew

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I just finished my first clinical, in an Outpatient Rehab setting. I wanted to jot down a few things to help out the folks who would be heading out to their clinicals in the future. The following items are in no particular order of importance:

- Since we're non-trads and a bit older than the typical PT student, I have the feeling that the bar is set slightly higher for us, esp. when it comes to "Professionalism", "Accountability" and "Communications". Those are 3 of about 20 items you'll be graded on by your Clinical Instructor (CI). So make sure you behave accordingly. Personally, I found it very easy to talk to patients and put them at ease but my CI said a lot of students tend to be a bit awkward in front of patients. Ah, the benefits of maturity...

- No task should be too menial for you. Come in a few minutes before the official starting time and wipe down the mats, tidy up the equipment, make sure there are clean sheets and towels on the racks, etc. Also review the day's caseload quickly; you don't need to know all the details, but at least be aware that Ms Brown is coming to PT because she just had a hip replacement, and whether she has any complications from the surgery. That way, you can greet her intelligently when she shows up.

- For the first few days, have a notebook or a tablet where you can quickly jot down how to do certain things and how to navigate the Electronic Health Records system in use at the clinic. Many large hospitals use Epic, so if you've seen or been exposed to it during your volunteering, you're ahead of the game. Be mindful of HIPAA, and make sure you put away or shred stuff with PHI that you printed out, at the end of the day.

- I can't say this enough: always try to use your past skills to see if you can improve things, so people will remember you better (and in a good way!). Being an ex-engineer, I use my math/physics knowledge to produce a couple of charts to use with a Total Gym machine. The PTs loved that info. And it doesn't have to be that complicated: since you're seeing the operations with fresh eyes, you'll probably spot lots of things that can be improved. Think about them carefully, and don't be shy in suggesting improvements. With your maturity, I am sure you can do it in a tactful way.

- Be nice to the admin staff: the schedulers, the front desk folks, even the cleaning people that come in at the end of the day. They can all teach us something. It turned out the cleaning lady in our office used to be a middle-school teacher... When she got laid off by the school system, that cleaning job was the best she could find. In a way I wasn't surprised to find out, because she sounded very educated when I first talked to her.

- Ask lots of questions, soak up the knowledge, and write down the interesting stuff that you find. You may remember them now, but next year they'll become fuzzy - unless you write them down. And conversely, if you have had a previous career, you should be able to show some interesting stuff to your CI. Lots of PTs have only been in one field and may not be aware of what's going in others.

- On your last day, bring donuts for everyone in the office. You'll be a big hit and people will remember you fondly. Guaranteed.
 
This is so great. Thanks, jblil! Just had my orientation yesterday and classes start Monday. I appreciate all the advice you've given. I'm nervous as heck (I don't want to do poorly on exams, practicals, & I hope to be sharp in class). But all the advice I've gotten on SDN & in person from mentors, PTs, & students has helped so much. I am really looking forward to the next 3 years!
 
Just posted in another thread about the salary. Honestly, you guys are way off with salary. If you want to work a single job under <40 hrs/wk, no you wont make $100k. But if you guys want to work a little harder and put in 48-50 hrs, $100k is very doable. I am one year out and work 42 hrs per week making $78,000. I just pulled a second gig working every saturday at $48/hr, and will pull in $100,000 working 50 hrs/wk. Its still less hours than any physician you'll meet, and It allows me to pay off my loans that much faster. Trust me, best decision ive made.
 
Just posted in another thread about the salary. Honestly, you guys are way off with salary. If you want to work a single job under <40 hrs/wk, no you wont make $100k. But if you guys want to work a little harder and put in 48-50 hrs, $100k is very doable. I am one year out and work 42 hrs per week making $78,000. I just pulled a second gig working every saturday at $48/hr, and will pull in $100,000 working 50 hrs/wk. Its still less hours than any physician you'll meet, and It allows me to pay off my loans that much faster. Trust me, best decision ive made.

I'm a little curious as to which posts lead you to believe that "you guys are way off with salary"? Most of the stories I've read with PTs taking up additional hours are pretty similar to yours.
 
Keep in mind that DrRehab is in South FL; with its large population of elderly folks, it does offer lots of opportunities in SNFs and Home Health. But according to posts from other PTs on this board, some areas are already saturated for outpatient ortho, such as Denver and Pittsburgh.

Job markets, like real estate sales, are very local. In response to the high demand, I would not be surprised if more DPT programs would open up in FL in the near future. Also, expect PT grads to flock into South FL. Sooner or later, supply and demand will equalize - the characteristic of a free market.
 
Just posted in another thread about the salary. Honestly, you guys are way off with salary. If you want to work a single job under <40 hrs/wk, no you wont make $100k. But if you guys want to work a little harder and put in 48-50 hrs, $100k is very doable. I am one year out and work 42 hrs per week making $78,000. I just pulled a second gig working every saturday at $48/hr, and will pull in $100,000 working 50 hrs/wk. Its still less hours than any physician you'll meet, and It allows me to pay off my loans that much faster. Trust me, best decision ive made.

Where do you live/work in South Fla. I live in Delray
 
Fort Lauderdale. Also, what I was saying was way off was in relation to some stuff written at the beginning of the thread.
 
This is an awesome thread🙂. I'm a non traditional student. I'm 41 years old, but I have been in school since I was 36. I worked full time while going to school full time. It was very difficult to say the least. I am hoping PT school will require about the same level of commitment that working and going to school full time required. As for memory, I will have no problems in that area. It took me a year to get in the groove, but I'm on fire now LOL. Also Gingko Biloba is a miracle cure for improving memory. You can buy it at Walmart and it takes about three weeks to kick in. It is simply amazing for rote memory.
 
Hey @jblil thanks so much for all the advice in this thread! But would you mind explaining what you meant by 4 items when you said "In the first semester, you will have to memorize 100+ muscles and at least 4 items for each muscle."
 
Hey @jblil thanks so much for all the advice in this thread! But would you mind explaining what you meant by 4 items when you said "In the first semester, you will have to memorize 100+ muscles and at least 4 items for each muscle."

OIANs.
Muscle Origin, Insertion, Action, & inNervation
 
OIANs.
Muscle Origin, Insertion, Action, & inNervation

Also known as PDIAs = Proximal attachment, Distal attachment, Innervation, Action 😉 Just different names. But you get the idea.
 
OIANs.
Muscle Origin, Insertion, Action, & inNervation
Well it seems as if I found something to start studying🙂. May as well make things easier by knowing as many as I can before class starts!
 
This is an awesome thread🙂. I'm a non traditional student. I'm 41 years old, but I have been in school since I was 36. I worked full time while going to school full time. It was very difficult to say the least. I am hoping PT school will require about the same level of commitment that working and going to school full time required. As for memory, I will have no problems in that area. It took me a year to get in the groove, but I'm on fire now LOL. Also Gingko Biloba is a miracle cure for improving memory. You can buy it at Walmart and it takes about three weeks to kick in. It is simply amazing for rote memory.
I just wanted to add that I find "Focus Formula" at GNC to be VERY good at helping me study...it is a Nootropic (look it up on Wiki)...another Nootropic that helps is Piracetam (but not as much as Focus Formula IMO)... no side effects or comedowns either...all natural 🙂
 
I just wanted to add that I find "Focus Formula" at GNC to be VERY good at helping me study...it is a Nootropic (look it up on Wiki)...another Nootropic that helps is Piracetam (but not as much as Focus Formula IMO)... no side effects or comedowns either...all natural 🙂
I just heard about that today! I'm going to try it. Every little bit helps. I'm also reading Moonwalking With Einstein, which is supposed to be very helpful. I'm about forty pages in and its pretty good so far.
 
I just heard about that today! I'm going to try it. Every little bit helps. I'm also reading Moonwalking With Einstein, which is supposed to be very helpful. I'm about forty pages in and its pretty good so far.
Ya I recommend drinking it with coffee or green tea 😀...yeah I've seen that book being recommended on this forum as well, and have been meaning to take a look at it...I definitely need somethin' to read on the 9 hour flight from Cali to Maine 😴
 
Focus Formula? Is that FDA approved? Just curious... I mean I would really love to have something to help with improving my memory (not that I lack capacity) but as @SwampPT said, every little bit helps. However, I've always been skeptical about taking pills unless prescribed.
 
Focus Formula? Is that FDA approved? Just curious... I mean I would really love to have something to help with improving my memory (not that I lack capacity) but as @SwampPT said, every little bit helps. However, I've always been skeptical about taking pills unless prescribed.
I don't think dietary supplements need to be FDA approved for manufacturers to sell them:

http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/QADietarySupplements/default.htm .

So you always assume some risk when taking supplements. The onus is on the manufacturer to ensure the product is safe. Having said that, I do take my fair share of supplements. I like l-tyrosine.
 
Well, I don't believe anything in GNC is FDA approved, but if you research Nootropics, you will find that they are safe. And I'm no doctor, but I would bet a large sum of money that Focus Formula is safer than any legal amphetamine a doctor would prescribe for focusing 🙂
 
I know Ginkgo Biloba works. The Chinese have used it for thousands of years. Plus it is all natural. I'm sure everything at GNC is all natural. I like any edge I can get 🙂
 
I graduated, passed the board exam, and got a job. So fellow non-trads, march on!

One thing I do want to mention here: in every single interview I've gone to, I was asked behavioral questions such as Tell me of a time when... It must be the "flavor du jour" with HR. Us non-trads have a lot of life/work experience to draw from, so please take maximum advantage of it. When answering those questions, I freely drew from my previous careers, and more than one employer has commented that the situations I described were very interesting. As long as you can show that your actions bolster a particular trait -be it empathy, attention to detail, humility, or love of chocolate mousse-, the stories are just a scaffolding, or background, for the real message.

Longer post describing my job search experience here:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/starting-salary-for-dpt-new-grads.931151/page-5
(Scroll to post #225, currently the last post).
 
I graduated, passed the board exam, and got a job. So fellow non-trads, march on!

One thing I do want to mention here: in every single interview I've gone to, I was asked behavioral questions such as Tell me of a time when... It must be the "flavor du jour" with HR. Us non-trads have a lot of life/work experience to draw from, so please take maximum advantage of it. When answering those questions, I freely drew from my previous careers, and more than one employer has commented that the situations I described were very interesting. As long as you can show that your actions bolster a particular trait -be it empathy, attention to detail, humility, or love of chocolate mousse-, the stories are just a scaffolding, or background, for the real message.

Longer post describing my job search experience here:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/starting-salary-for-dpt-new-grads.931151/page-5
(Scroll to post #225, currently the last post).

Congratulations! I am just now reading through this thread as I work to make my decision on which school to accept at. I am 35 and will be starting a DPT program this summer and I have to be honest, this thread has scared the heck out of me! I was nervous about the financials before but now I am basically freaking out that this may all be a big mistake!

I think I need to just take a deep breath and keep focused. Congratulations again on passing your boards and getting a job and thank you for sharing your experience with everyone.
 
I was nervous about the financials before but now I am basically freaking out that this may all be a big mistake!

Congrats on being accepted to several schools! Pick the least expensive one (tuition + living expenses) that is accredited and with a good NPTE pass rate. The market should still be ok for the next "few" years; I got multiple job offers, although all of them are in smaller cities. Build as big as network as you can while in school and during clinicals, it will come in handy later. Good luck, and have fun with school!
 
Pick the least expensive one (tuition + living expenses) that is accredited and with a good NPTE pass rate.

This is where I am struggling. I was offered a scholarship to one school, but I am not particularly excited about that school. There is another school that was sort of my "reach" school that I applied to that I am really excited about, but it would end up costing a significant amount more. I know people keep saying choose the least expensive one, but I can't imagine choosing to go some place I'm not really excited about for something this significant...
 
Project yourself into the future, and draw up a monthly budget; take into account loan repayments, taxes and your own tastes for housing, food, transportation, etc. If you can live with what you see, go to the more expensive school. Be conservative with your estimates.
 
Being a nontrad in a healthcare setting has its advantages: I was treating a patient last week, and at the end of the session, he said "you must have been a PT for a long time." I simply smiled and replied "Well, I've been around a lot." FWIW, I got my license in Feb 2016...
 
I'm in my first clinical experiences and I've had very similar experiences.
 
Advice for folks who just returned from clinicals: jot down now the names of the folks you worked with and their duties. You'll be surprised at how quickly you forget those details. Then, once a year or so, keep in touch with your former CI via email to give him/her an update of your progress in school, and ask him to say hi to Anna the PTA, and Joe the other PT, as well as Brian the receptionist. Also if you run into something interesting (the NYT has a really good Health section, often with articles on exercises), mention it to your CI in your emails. This is the essence of networking. By doing this you're keeping your "mindshare" alive with your CI and folks you've worked with.

Even though I've graduated and started working, I still do the above. One of my former CIs told me about openings in his department as he replied to my email. While I'm not looking to jump ship now, those relationships could be useful in the future. Play the long game. As somebody once said, life is a game of chess, not tic-tac-toe.
 
I can't repeat this enough: keep in touch with your CIs, esp. if you have had a pleasant rotation. Just today, another former CI of mine sent me an email to let me know that her office is hiring, and I'd be welcome to come back since everyone there knows me already. I told her I would love to, but I've promised my current employer that I'd stay 2 years. And you guessed it, my current employer is also one of my former CIs. The clinical rotation system gives you a ready-made network, served to you on a platter. Nurture it, and you won't regret it.
 
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