Formal charge help needed!

[sdp07]

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What would be formal charge on the double bonded Fluorine and the single bonded Oxygen? Thanks!

 

[Teleologist]

Depends on what else is attached to both atoms. Your picture is broken.

 

[Chrisz]

What would be formal charge on the double bonded Fluorine and the single bonded Oxygen? Thanks!

Fluorine makes one bond, oxygen makes two bonds, confused what u talking about

 

[tdod]

I can't see your picture... but unless double bonded F is usu. +1 and single bonded O is –1

 

[Teleologist]

I can't see your picture... but unless double bonded F is usu. +1 and single bonded O is –1

If single bonded, F is always 0. Not sure where you pulled +1 from.

 

[SuperSneaky24]

If single bonded, F is always 0. Not sure where you pulled +1 from.

? I was taught that F is always -1 when dealing with oxidation numbers. Unless you're talking about F2?

 

[Teleologist]

This thread is about formal charge.

Also in diatomic fluorine the oxidation state of fluorine is 0. Not +1.

 

[Chrisz]

If single bonded, F is always 0. Not sure where you pulled +1 from.

I guess the he is saying once the fluorine make two bonds with the other atoms, then there is a plus charge on the fluorine, but this is highly unlikely. Fluorine is highly electronegative by itself, a positive charge on fluorine is highly unstable

 

[Teleologist]

There's a positive formal charge yes. Let's be specific about charge. There probably isn't going to be say a positive partial charge too.

 

[sdp07]

My apologies for the image. I uploaded it with this reply. Hope it works.

 

[Chrisz]

for this molecule, O=-1 and f=+1, N=+1, the overall charge of the molecule is +1, the charge separation in this case is stabilized by resonance, or conjugation (some people would like to use this term to describe the effect more precisely)

 

[Teleologist]

for this molecule, O=-1 and f=+1, N=+1, the overall charge of the molecule is +1

I hope you mean the single-bonded O.

 

[Chrisz]

I hope you mean the single-bonded O.

Yup, the only oxygen that makes one bond

 

[sdp07]

Oh ok now I see where the +1 for the fluorine came from! Thanks!