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Formal charge help needed!

Discussion in 'MCAT Study Question Q&A' started by sdp07, May 15, 2014.

  1. sdp07

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    What would be formal charge on the double bonded Fluorine and the single bonded Oxygen? Thanks!

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  3. Teleologist

    Teleologist 2+ Year Member

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    Depends on what else is attached to both atoms. Your picture is broken.
     
  4. Chrisz

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    Fluorine makes one bond, oxygen makes two bonds, confused what u talking about
     
  5. tdod

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    I can't see your picture... but unless double bonded F is usu. +1 and single bonded O is –1
     
  6. Teleologist

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    If single bonded, F is always 0. Not sure where you pulled +1 from.
     
  7. SuperSneaky24

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    ? I was taught that F is always -1 when dealing with oxidation numbers. Unless you're talking about F2?
     
  8. Teleologist

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    This thread is about formal charge.

    Also in diatomic fluorine the oxidation state of fluorine is 0. Not +1.
     
  9. Chrisz

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    I guess the he is saying once the fluorine make two bonds with the other atoms, then there is a plus charge on the fluorine, but this is highly unlikely. Fluorine is highly electronegative by itself, a positive charge on fluorine is highly unstable
     
  10. Teleologist

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    There's a positive formal charge yes. Let's be specific about charge. There probably isn't going to be say a positive partial charge too.
     
  11. sdp07

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    My apologies for the image. I uploaded it with this reply. Hope it works.
     

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  12. Chrisz

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    for this molecule, O=-1 and f=+1, N=+1, the overall charge of the molecule is +1, the charge separation in this case is stabilized by resonance, or conjugation (some people would like to use this term to describe the effect more precisely)
     
  13. Teleologist

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    I hope you mean the single-bonded O.
     
  14. Chrisz

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    Yup, the only oxygen that makes one bond
     
  15. sdp07

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    Oh ok now I see where the +1 for the fluorine came from! Thanks!
     

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