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[Melchizedek]

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Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

If you're a wolf, well done to whichever veteran coached you into saying this, because this is the response that would usually get me to move on, but I am superbly wary of you.

 

[Lawpy]

Also i'm now officially lost as to why Navs read petmoosy and dolph the way he did

 

[Skimble]

Yes. It's not her ability. I thinm she said it was a rewars for answering a question? It would be a smart wolf move to rez him if given the option for village cred

Oh, I apparently forgot a lot while reading the entire thread yesterday. I thought it was mpm's ability, not an item. That certainly changes things, and makes me feel a lot better about voting there. It wouldn't be the first time wolves used a rez to bring back a villager, not that we know for sure Nav/Mel is village, but right now I'm reading Mel as village.

Lynch mpm

 

[Melchizedek]

Who's roids? How are you reading Barky? And what are your thoughts on petmoosy rezzing Navs?

Roids - @acanthuroidei
Barks - Has been kind of in the background
URRRGGHHHH I haven't gotten there yet, will evaluate when I do.

He used an item on me that I believe is what saved me from being NK'd.

I CALL BULL****. So when you originally posted this, I believed it because that makes sense but that information wasn't volunteered until minutes before lynch, on top of that you made this post earlier that day:

I read the MsP and cubs day 1 as w/v and went for MsP. Still considering that theory was correct

So let's try this again. Why were you on Nav for "trying to kill someone N1" when you know that there is precedence in these games for vigilante kill items, instead of your own proposed theory?

Oh, I apparently forgot a lot while reading the entire thread yesterday. I thought it was mpm's ability, not an item. That certainly changes things, and makes me feel a lot better about voting there. It wouldn't be the first time wolves used a rez to bring back a villager, not that we know for sure Nav/Mel is village, but right now I'm reading Mel as village.

Lynch mpm

Oh wait, this changes things, Lawper made it sound like MPM used an ability, not an item/reward. I agree with Skim. But now I'm annoyed that Mutts is the one that came up with that theory.....

 

[Stagg737]

Well this is getting more interesting.

@CoffeeQuestionMark what are your thoughts on Barkley?

@Barkley13 , what are your thoughts on anything?

 

[Stagg737]

Lynch Roids

May not stay here, but I like how this feels right now.

 

[mypetmoose]

Oh, I apparently forgot a lot while reading the entire thread yesterday. I thought it was mpm's ability, not an item. That certainly changes things, and makes me feel a lot better about voting there. It wouldn't be the first time wolves used a rez to bring back a villager, not that we know for sure Nav/Mel is village, but right now I'm reading Mel as village.

Lynch mpm

To this I say that it was a reward. Why would I pick Navi to rez though? He was suspicious of me. I could have kept my reward until someone more likely to help village and vouch for me died. Luckily Navi seemed to believe me. But like in what world would two wolves be up for lynch D1 and there be such little commotion? And the only villager in that combo dies by RNG? Occams razor dude...
Who are your other wolf picks? I haven't seen much from you.

 

[muttmanager]

I CALL BULL****. So when you originally posted this, I believed it because that makes sense but that information wasn't volunteered until minutes before lynch, on top of that you made this post earlier that day:


So let's try this again. Why were you on Nav for "trying to kill someone N1" when you know that there is precedence in these games for vigilante kill items, instead of your own proposed theory?

Cubs claimed he didnt understand what I was saying, offered the info once he did and removed his vote from me, so I paused there. He lives in sketch territory for me, so he is not completely off my radar.

Nav had no reason to bring up the death cab, so him sharing it was a sketchy move. He is overall a bold player so him doing it as a wolf did not seem out of the realm of possibility

 

[Melchizedek]

What's the first question mean?
Cubs said he used Phoebe's guitar on me which we connected to the apartment move. The redirecrion was assu because the write up said ugly naked guy was the target and someone else died

I used the guitar on mutts N1 and the write up basically said there was a "mistaken" kill, meaning dead guy (mutts) was the target but someone else ended up getting killed instead.

But how can you assume anything about kill mechanics and or if moving someone would redirect the kill v.s. just cause it to fail v.s. some other thing.
*Insert rant about making assumptions about mechanics and using those to clear people.*

Going with my gut, but if this ends up coming down to MOOSE and Mutts, I'm voting Mutts.

Unlynch Moose
Lynch Dolphin

 

[dolphin106258]

so they were just like hey, choose a different group to join? or just some vague "do you want to 'run away?'" and you said yes and ended up there?

All the people involved in all these actions I find strange... some actions seem pointless like the mutts one, while others seem rather wolfy....put someone in a cab to kill them? wtf?

I have, and have also noticed that their routine Cubs tunnel is not present this game yet. Still not enough for me to vote there though.

So cubs has these posts

Feels on both of you

I read the MsP and cubs day 1 as w/v and went for MsP. Still considering that theory was correct


Both Neutral - skim leaning more wolf. Moose leaning village is Nav flips wolf

Nav said so

And ya know mutts makes this remark that everyone is pointing back to.

mutts keeps gnawing at me. and being on the nav lynch makes me more suspicious.

lynch mutts

Now that youre finally starting to elaborate I feel a little bit better.

unlynch mutts

What is her role? If youre referring to her being an NK target and it getting redirected/she escaped it then I believe that which is why I took my vote down.

What I really want to see is how this waffle goes down. Where do the nav and MOOSE votes go last minute and who are the ones that switch

Votes to lynch her then doesn’t.

unlynch AM
lynch Nav

@Barkley13 if you think @muttmanager is village, then you have to unlynch me, because Im the one that saved her last night using Phoebe's guitar

Then under extreme pressure of impending death cubs reveals he helped mutts escape the NK.

Then why did you vote her initially?

Lawper asks what seems to me to be a good question but cubs never answers it that I saw at least.

I’m likely voting kata or 1 other (that I’ll name in the morning)

Also this is random but did you ever name the other name Mutts? I can’t remember.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm so glad you're here Mel.

 

[Melchizedek]

I'm so glad you're here Mel.

Don't worry I'm saving my ISO of you for last 😉

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 4 Lynch Tally
Stagg (1) - Coffee?
AM (3) - cubs, Lawpy, acan
mutts (3) - AM, miz, dolphin
Coffee? (1) - mpm
mpm (2) - mutts, Skim
dolphin (1) - Mel
acan (1) - Stagg

12/13
lynch close in ~4 hours

 

[muttmanager]

But how can you assume anything about kill mechanics and or if moving someone would redirect the kill v.s. just cause it to fail v.s. some other thing.
*Insert rant about making assumptions about mechanics and using those to clear people.*

I know you hate mechanics but, it didn't read like mod flair.

Going with my gut, but if this ends up coming down to MOOSE and Mutts, I'm voting Mutts.

That'd be a poor choice

Also this is random but did you ever name the other name Mutts? I can’t remember.

Yes, mpm.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Lawper asks what seems to me to be a good question but cubs never answers it that I saw at least.

I did answer it, and if I recall correctly it was a direct response to your post, not his. Pushing cubs shade is not a good look for you.

 

[dolphin106258]

I did answer it, and if I recall correctly it was a direct response to your post, not his. Pushing cubs shade is not a good look for you.

Looking through the posts to reclarify timing and what was said since it was being discussed is not throwing shade so calm down.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

So cubs has these posts

And ya know mutts makes this remark that everyone is pointing back to.



Votes to lynch her then doesn’t.

Then under extreme pressure of impending death cubs reveals he helped mutts escape the NK.

Lawper asks what seems to me to be a good question but cubs never answers it that I saw at least.


Also this is random but did you ever name the other name Mutts? I can’t remember.

The whole cubs/mutts interaction strikes me as strange. I’ve had minor feels about cubs since day 2 (will go back and ISO) but was willing to drop it at the time since I tunnel. Mutts I currently have stronger feels for, as stated earlier. I feel there’s possibly a wolf between them from this interaction and while would prefer a mutts lynch would be ok with cracking the other egg.

Nobody has actually answered WHY a they have AM feels and I can’t read her for ****.

 

[Barkley13]

Stagg - hasn't been around much, keeps saying he's doing PbP response but then only quotes a couple posts and barely says anything about them. Neutral to sketchy

Dolphin - wolfy. her posts about kata almost seem like she was making sure to mention her without giving an opinion on her either way. Also sketchy that she said kata was an easy lynch and then ended up voting there anyway. She also voted there when it obviously wasn't going to make a difference. These are the posts I found where she mentioned kata:

Do have any reasons behind kata? Because you said for now when you placed the vote but I haven’t seen any explanation afterward

Do you no longer feel weird about Kata enough to vote there?

Kata is an easy vote to make as well because everyone has said she’s sketchy plenty.

Lawper - has been questioning people's reads a lot and asking a lot of questions. Started mentioning kata pretty early and voted for her day one which helped contribute to the tie. Feels village

Coffee? - a lot of talk about the theme and items and less about the people playing the game up until today. sketchy

Miz - also voted kata day one that resulted in the three way tie. I've liked a lot of her posts so far and she finally doesn't feel sketchy to me this game lol. Village

Skim - post restricted yesterday but that could happen to a villager or wolf. Would really like to see more. neutral right now

Second half coming once I finish ISOing but wanted to post something today. I will probably vote dolphin unless something else really sticks out to me

 

[cubsrule4e]

But you are unfortunately barking up the wrong tree.

Why has this phrase been used like 5 times since last night? Subconsciously making me want to move back to my other vote choice. Who has been strangely quiet the entire day after having heat on her for the last 2

 

[cubsrule4e]

The whole cubs/mutts interaction strikes me as strange. I’ve had minor feels about cubs since day 2 (will go back and ISO) but was willing to drop it at the time since I tunnel. Mutts I currently have stronger feels for, as stated earlier. I feel there’s possibly a wolf between them from this interaction and while would prefer a mutts lynch would be ok with cracking the other egg.

Nobody has actually answered WHY a they have AM feels and I can’t read her for ****.

Her biggest goal of the game so far has been to get Moose lynched, even after Nav changed his mind on her and Moose came on giving thorough defense arguments last night with AM basically choosing to ignore her.

 

[cubsrule4e]

The whole cubs/mutts interaction strikes me as strange. I’ve had minor feels about cubs since day 2 (will go back and ISO) but was willing to drop it at the time since I tunnel. Mutts I currently have stronger feels for, as stated earlier. I feel there’s possibly a wolf between them from this interaction and while would prefer a mutts lynch would be ok with cracking the other egg.

Nobody has actually answered WHY a they have AM feels and I can’t read her for ****.

Also she was making some argument about genny flipping, and the more I think about it, we killed genny N1 last game, so she strikes me as someone who would do that again so she could make the argument that she wouldnt kill the same person N1 two games in a row. This is less substantiated proof of anything as much as it is just me tinfoiling.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Her biggest goal of the game so far has been to get Moose lynched, even after Nav changed his mind on her and Moose came on giving thorough defense arguments last night with AM basically choosing to ignore her.

Thank you!!! Going back to ISO her after I’m done making dinner.

 

[Lawpy]

Oh, I apparently forgot a lot while reading the entire thread yesterday. I thought it was mpm's ability, not an item. That certainly changes things, and makes me feel a lot better about voting there. It wouldn't be the first time wolves used a rez to bring back a villager, not that we know for sure Nav/Mel is village, but right now I'm reading Mel as village.

Lynch mpm

why petmoosy and how do you feel about dolphino?

 

[Stagg737]

The whole cubs/mutts interaction strikes me as strange. I’ve had minor feels about cubs since day 2 (will go back and ISO) but was willing to drop it at the time since I tunnel. Mutts I currently have stronger feels for, as stated earlier. I feel there’s possibly a wolf between them from this interaction and while would prefer a mutts lynch would be ok with cracking the other egg.

Nobody has actually answered WHY a they have AM feels and I can’t read her for ****.

Nothing super solid, but I'm not a fan of her voting record combined with Roids. Other than that just some feelz right now. Not something I'm inclined to vote on at this point, but also not something I'm that opposed to due to the potential info yield.

Stagg - hasn't been around much, keeps saying he's doing PbP response but then only quotes a couple posts and barely says anything about them. Neutral to sketchy

As I said before, welcome to the new Stagg.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Her biggest goal of the game so far has been to get Moose lynched, even after Nav changed his mind on her and Moose came on giving thorough defense arguments last night with AM basically choosing to ignore her.

How was I ignoring her?

 

[mypetmoose]

Okay so speaking of this, I feel like this is a game where role revealing names can be beneficial, as from what I seen and know, role abilities are not correlated with names. Likely wolves have covers, but you can catch wolves in lies with this.

@Melchizedek do you agree to this, or at least follow his train of thought?

 

[Barkley13]

Mutts - thought it was weird she said she had cubs in her wolf leans for voting MsP when she also voted MsP. Originally thought she was sketchy but no one has really disputed her being the ugly naked guy so it is possible for her to have been the original NK choice but I also don't like how she keeps pushing that she was the NK target and is obviously village. Currently conflicted

Acanthy - has made sure to provide plenty of justification for her votes but a lot of it seems like flimsy reasoning. Sketchy

mpm - rezzed Nav but could be NAI because it wasn't an ability and there are definitely some advantages to using it as a wolf instead of just letting it go to waste. The day nav was lynched she kept trying to throw shade on him while also saying that it wasn't a good day to lynch him because of his post restriction before lynching him. wolfy

Cubs - so sketchy and has been misrepresenting things a lot to fit his argument but apparently used the guitar on mutts and if mutts really was the intended NK then it doesn't make sense to me that he would interfere with a wolf kill while also being a wolf so that's the only village point he has

Nav/Mel - died as a villager and play (of both of them) has felt fine to me (although with a lack of crazy schemes 😛)

AM - feels village to me but I'm wrong a lot

 

[Skimble]

Lynch Roids

May not stay here, but I like how this feels right now.

Who the f€¥# is roids?!?

To this I say that it was a reward. Why would I pick Navi to rez though? He was suspicious of me. I could have kept my reward until someone more likely to help village and vouch for me died. Luckily Navi seemed to believe me. But like in what world would two wolves be up for lynch D1 and there be such little commotion? And the only villager in that combo dies by RNG? Occams razor dude...
Who are your other wolf picks? I haven't seen much from you.

With Nav being suspicious of you, wouldn’t he be the perfect person to rez if you are lupine?

why petmoosy and how do you feel about dolphino?

I thought mpm’s posts at the end of lynch yesterday were super wolfy. Dolphin is still high on my list, but that is just feels, so I’d rather lynch mpm right now.

AM is also on my radar, she just doesn’t seem as aggressive as she normally is. I’m often wrong about her though, so I tend to wait on lynching her for at least a few days until I can get better feels.

 

[Barkley13]

Lynch Dolphin

 

[mypetmoose]

these three posts
JFC
I can't.
Wolfiest -> meh kinda wolfy
MPM, Dolphin, Mutts, Roids

Unlynch Dolphin
Lynch MPM

I see acanthy and dolphin but why mutts?

 

[Barkley13]

Okay so speaking of this, I feel like this is a game where role revealing names can be beneficial, as from what I seen and know, role abilities are not correlated with names. Likely wolves have covers, but you can catch wolves in lies with this.

@Melchizedek do you agree to this, or at least follow his train of thought?

You didn't ask me but I was thinking about role names and what are people's thoughts on Rachel being a wolf? I was thinking that because there's been a few of Ross's girlfriends or whatever come up and they've been village

 

[Lawpy]

@CoffeeQuestionMark i'm interested to know your thoughts on petmoosy and dolphino, as well as your thoughts on Stagg's posts

 

[dolphin106258]

Why has this phrase been used like 5 times since last night? Subconsciously making me want to move back to my other vote choice. Who has been strangely quiet the entire day after having heat on her for the last 2

Maybe just remember that outside of you no one has had any issue with my votes or anything I’ve said especially when Nav was here to say eh dolphin looks like normal dolphin to me but the minute Mel comes on and says something to the contrary everyone flips there script. I’m a villager, but just maybe remember how much of sheeple everyone decided to be.

 

[mypetmoose]

Who the f€¥# is roids?!?

With Nav being suspicious of you, wouldn’t he be the perfect person to rez if you are lupine?

I thought mpm’s posts at the end of lynch yesterday were super wolfy. Dolphin is still high on my list, but that is just feels, so I’d rather lynch mpm right now.

AM is also on my radar, she just doesn’t seem as aggressive as she normally is. I’m often wrong about her though, so I tend to wait on lynching her for at least a few days until I can get better feels.

Okay so just... when I'm busy with real life, I get bad at ww. I won't be sorry for spending time with family this weekend, but I will admit that I could've spent the time I was logged in actually formulating reads. I'm just dumb sometimes. But I'm sure you, and others, can understand being busy.

What bothers you most about dolphin? I'm beginning to look into them too

 

[Lawpy]

@Lawper and @cubsrule4e can you explain the AM things that you’re reading as sketchy? Will ISO her.

sorry missed this. it's not a specific post but just observing her general behavior and interactions with cubs that are concerning me. she's more... reserved and withdrawn? which to me aligns with more of her wolf play

 

[cubsrule4e]

Maybe just remember that outside of you no one has had any issue with my votes or anything I’ve said especially when Nav was here to say eh dolphin looks like normal dolphin to me but the minute Mel comes on and says something to the contrary everyone flips there script. I’m a villager, but just maybe remember how much of sheeple everyone decided to be.

Aside from you actually saying that phrase, how was this directed at you? The vote I was referring to was barkley

 

[dolphin106258]

Stagg - hasn't been around much, keeps saying he's doing PbP response but then only quotes a couple posts and barely says anything about them. Neutral to sketchy

Dolphin - wolfy. her posts about kata almost seem like she was making sure to mention her without giving an opinion on her either way. Also sketchy that she said kata was an easy lynch and then ended up voting there anyway. She also voted there when it obviously wasn't going to make a difference. These are the posts I found where she mentioned kata:




Lawper - has been questioning people's reads a lot and asking a lot of questions. Started mentioning kata pretty early and voted for her day one which helped contribute to the tie. Feels village

Coffee? - a lot of talk about the theme and items and less about the people playing the game up until today. sketchy

Miz - also voted kata day one that resulted in the three way tie. I've liked a lot of her posts so far and she finally doesn't feel sketchy to me this game lol. Village

Skim - post restricted yesterday but that could happen to a villager or wolf. Would really like to see more. neutral right now

Second half coming once I finish ISOing but wanted to post something today. I will probably vote dolphin unless something else really sticks out to me

The first two mentions of Kata were me looking into Lawper and the last was in me talking to MOOSE about how I felt she had a lack of wolf hunting. Because lot of people hadn’t really articulated reasons for Kata. I tend to always find her sketchy/hard to read so I’ll kinda depend on others. And yes I voted her at the last minute because as I said when MOOSE came on the thread about fifteen minutes to close her posts reminded me of myself when I’m village so I decided to change.

 

[Skimble]

Okay so just... when I'm busy with real life, I get bad at ww. I won't be sorry for spending time with family this weekend, but I will admit that I could've spent the time I was logged in actually formulating reads. I'm just dumb sometimes. But I'm sure you, and others, can understand being busy.

What bothers you most about dolphin? I'm beginning to look into them too

I absolutely understand being busy, but, stupid mistakes are often made by busy wolves, so maybe that is what I was seeing last night?

Like I said, nothing I can really pinpoint with dolphin. Just something seemed off in her posts.

 

[mypetmoose]

Mutts - thought it was weird she said she had cubs in her wolf leans for voting MsP when she also voted MsP. Originally thought she was sketchy but no one has really disputed her being the ugly naked guy so it is possible for her to have been the original NK choice but I also don't like how she keeps pushing that she was the NK target and is obviously village. Currently conflicted

Acanthy - has made sure to provide plenty of justification for her votes but a lot of it seems like flimsy reasoning. Sketchy

mpm - rezzed Nav but could be NAI because it wasn't an ability and there are definitely some advantages to using it as a wolf instead of just letting it go to waste. The day nav was lynched she kept trying to throw shade on him while also saying that it wasn't a good day to lynch him because of his post restriction before lynching him. wolfy

Cubs - so sketchy and has been misrepresenting things a lot to fit his argument but apparently used the guitar on mutts and if mutts really was the intended NK then it doesn't make sense to me that he would interfere with a wolf kill while also being a wolf so that's the only village point he has

Nav/Mel - died as a villager and play (of both of them) has felt fine to me (although with a lack of crazy schemes 😛)

AM - feels village to me but I'm wrong a lot

Wait... this is not fair. Everything I said about Nav the day I lynched him was raw. I was just talking about the different ways I was thinking about it. If that is wolfy, I guess that I should learn to do it in my PMs. By myself. Because I am Carol, Ross's ex-wife, the vanillager. Another reason I brought Navi/Susan back is because I thought it was funny that I accidentally lynched my wife.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Starting with who he's voting today. I love the guy but this is frustrating.

You love me?? Really?? I honestly didnt know what you thought

 

[Barkley13]

Maybe just remember that outside of you no one has had any issue with my votes or anything I’ve said especially when Nav was here to say eh dolphin looks like normal dolphin to me but the minute Mel comes on and says something to the contrary everyone flips there script. I’m a villager, but just maybe remember how much of sheeple everyone decided to be.

I'm not sure what the tally is but it's still pretty early and this seems really defensive? But I don't think that's too weird for you

 

[dolphin106258]

Aside from you actually saying that phrase, how was this directed at you? The vote I was referring to was barkley

It was aimed at the wrong quote, it was for you because you’re the only one I’ve seen actually mention you thought I was sketchy before Mel came out and everyone decided oh, I somehow missed every single point he’s made and NOW I too feel that way.

 

[Skimble]

It was aimed at the wrong quote, it was for you because you’re the only one I’ve seen actually mention you thought I was sketchy before Mel came out and everyone decided oh, I somehow missed every single point he’s made and NOW I too feel that way.

Hey, I mentioned you yesterday as well. I even voted for you.

 

[dolphin106258]

I'm not sure what the tally is but it's still pretty early and this seems really defensive? But I don't think that's too weird for you

It definitely isn’t out of character but I think it definitely seems fishy that for days no one has had any real criticisms but now there are. Whether that’s because people put too much stock in Nav and sheep his feels or put too much stock in Mel and sheep him. Or just sheep in general, my sheeping comment stands. Wish there was a sheep emoji to use 😛

 

[cubsrule4e]

It was aimed at the wrong quote, it was for you because you’re the only one I’ve seen actually mention you thought I was sketchy before Mel came out and everyone decided oh, I somehow missed every single point he’s made and NOW I too feel that way.

Yes, I did say you were starting to catch my attention but I dont think i went too in depth about you, so I'm certainly not the one trying to change peoples minds all of the sudden.

 

[dolphin106258]

Hey, I mentioned you yesterday as well. I even voted for you.

Oh true you did Skimble, my bad

 

[Animal Midwife]

On the bright side, tonight actually seems consistently active for once.

 

[Lawpy]

@mizchiefmanaged to clarify, how do you feel about petmoosy and dolphino?

 

[dolphin106258]

Yes, I did say you were starting to catch my attention but I dont think i went too in depth about you, so I'm certainly not the one trying to change peoples minds all of the sudden.

I think you’re missing the point. I quoted it for you to acknowledge that you (and skimble) actually have mentioned my sketch, whereas no else has. So it was for the general masses but quoted you, so you’d feel acknowledged but I can lump you in with the masses if that’s what you’d prefer.

 

[mypetmoose]

I absolutely understand being busy, but, stupid mistakes are often made by busy wolves, so maybe that is what I was seeing last night?

Like I said, nothing I can really pinpoint with dolphin. Just something seemed off in her posts.

If that is a question, then no... keep playing with me and letting me live past D1 and you will see me making mistakes is kind of a pattern and NAI.