Full-Ride VS Penn

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Hi everyone,

The full-ride is at UConn and it requires one of the following after graduation: 1 year GPR in CT OR 1 year working in community clinic OR 2 years teaching

I am strongly interested in specializing in OMFS and am wondering if this full-ride would affect my chances since I have that requirement to take care of. Also, I know Penn is awesome for specializing and I really liked Penn when I visited. I also feel that Penn might have a stronger clinical side.

Another thing to note is that UConn is P/F and now that the boards have gone P/F, I am kind of worried in that respect. However, they are in with the med school so that may be a plus. Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[Sublimazing]

This is a no brainer my friend. Do UCONN with the GPR. All you need to do us ace the NBME and with boards and your curriculum being P/F u have tons of study time. The GPR (though not an internship) may prove helpful on your application as well with possible OR time w omfs attendings and what not.

Not to mention, a lot of people enter dental school wanting to go OS, and for one reason or another do not pursue. With UCONN you'll be perfect capable to do GP or choose another specialty.

I say forget PENN...I wish I'd had what you have.

 

[wired202808]

Hi everyone,

The full-ride is at UConn and it requires one of the following after graduation: 1 year GPR in CT OR 1 year working in community clinic OR 2 years teaching

I am strongly interested in specializing in OMFS and am wondering if this full-ride would affect my chances since I have that requirement to take care of. Also, I know Penn is awesome for specializing and I really liked Penn when I visited. I also feel that Penn might have a stronger clinical side.

Another thing to note is that UConn is P/F and now that the boards have gone P/F, I am kind of worried in that respect. However, they are in with the med school so that may be a plus. Thanks in advance for your help!

Why would you pay for the same level of education? That would be quite silly indeed.

 

[longhornpride]

Hi everyone,

The full-ride is at UConn and it requires one of the following after graduation: 1 year GPR in CT OR 1 year working in community clinic OR 2 years teaching

I am strongly interested in specializing in OMFS and am wondering if this full-ride would affect my chances since I have that requirement to take care of. Also, I know Penn is awesome for specializing and I really liked Penn when I visited. I also feel that Penn might have a stronger clinical side.

Another thing to note is that UConn is P/F and now that the boards have gone P/F, I am kind of worried in that respect. However, they are in with the med school so that may be a plus. Thanks in advance for your help!

UCONN:
-pros: free!! can still specialize in omfs.
-cons: While not a bad choice, it's still not Penn when it comes to specializing.

PENN:
-pros: great school, plenty of students end up specializing.
-cons: extremely expensive.

In the end, if you go to penn and don't match into an OMFS program, or realize you're not one of the 10 smartest people in your class, or change your mind about OMFS... then you're stuck with a mountain of debt. At uconn, you can still try to match into a program (omfs has or will have their own test or will make you take the nbme) so don't worry about the pass/fail thing. I personally just cannot justify paying 350k+ when you can get the same degree for free. Matching into OMFS will require you to be one of the brightest in your class, top board scores, great recommendations, lots of networking, and some luck. Takes a lot of balls to bet 350k in hopes of matching into the most competitive specialty.

 

[thewobblytooth]

Go to UConn that's a better deal.

 

[Firm]

Not sure if you are serious. 🙁

 

[byuAD]

Ya I can't believe this is even a debate...

 

[pjscholar]

Would you want a beautiful free house or pay full price for a 400K overpriced house?

 

[Sublimazing]

And just to add

Take whatever the debt is coming out of Penn (seems like people are saying 350k)...and then start adding in the interest of 4 years without repayment...or 6 years without repayment plus 2 more years of med school tuition...

and would the UCONN GPR be a paid position...or is that part of the free ride?

 

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And just to add

Take whatever the debt is coming out of Penn (seems like people are saying 350k)...and then start adding in the interest of 4 years without repayment...or 6 years without repayment plus 2 more years of med school tuition...

and would the UCONN GPR be a paid position...or is that part of the free ride?

It is any GPR program in Connecticut. They are all payed though, right? Also, is the Yale GPR very difficult to get into? Thanks.

 

[billythekid]

This is a no brainer my friend. Do UCONN with the GPR. All you need to do us ace the NBME and with boards and your curriculum being P/F u have tons of study time. The GPR (though not an internship) may prove helpful on your application as well with possible OR time w omfs attendings and what not.

Not to mention, a lot of people enter dental school wanting to go OS, and for one reason or another do not pursue. With UCONN you'll be perfect capable to do GP or choose another specialty.

I say forget PENN...I wish I'd had what you have.

truth

 

[Sublimazing]

It is any GPR program in Connecticut. They are all payed though, right? Also, is the Yale GPR very difficult to get into? Thanks.

Interesting program...so is it guaranteed acceptance into one of these programs...or is it contingent that you get into one of them...and if you don't u get hit with 4 years of tuition?

And yeah the yale GPR is competitive...I didn't apply to it but I talked to the PD (or someone on adcom) on the phone and they look for solid stats...I was asking about GPAs and Boards scores tho...so who knows now what they expect

The vast majority of GPRs are nowhere near as competitive as the specialty residencies...but there are quite a few that require top notch applicants

 

[GTFOOMICT]

BTW this seriously sounds like the best deal you could ever imagine.

Even a rich daddy isn't better than this gig.

TAKE IT!!

 

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Interesting program...so is it guaranteed acceptance into one of these programs...or is it contingent that you get into one of them...and if you don't u get hit with 4 years of tuition?

And yeah the yale GPR is competitive...I didn't apply to it but I talked to the PD (or someone on adcom) on the phone and they look for solid stats...I was asking about GPAs and Boards scores tho...so who knows now what they expect

The vast majority of GPRs are nowhere near as competitive as the specialty residencies...but there are quite a few that require top notch applicants

I'm not sure if it is guaranteed acceptance into any GPR but in the event you don't get accepted to one you have the other 2 options that you can complete (2 year teaching gig or working in community based clinic/rural area for 1 year).

 

[dreamerndoer]

what could beat going to school for free? I'd take Uconn with the 1 year GPR 😉

 

[DrDDSman]

what could beat going to school for free? I'd take Uconn with the 1 year GPR 😉

Wow, I'd pretty much go ANYWHERE if offered a free ride. How can you say no to a thick stack of cash?

 

[Bereno]

Lol, I heard about you from a fellow UConn classmate. Congrats on the acceptances!

Here is my input: Go with UConn. Its WAY cheaper and it also is well known for getting into specialties. I don't know why people play up Penn so much... I don't think its Penn that gets you into a specialty, its the students they accept that get into specialties. Forget about all the prestige that you think follows Penn around, and see it for what it is; I good school. But so is UConn lol. This seems like a no-brainer haha.

P.S. As others have said, I would do almost anything to be in your position!

 

[DentinBond]

I went to Penn; a long time ago I taught in preclinic at Penn; and I know many fine faculty there now. In spite of their good intentions:

-Penn focuses excessively on this business of getting people into specialties so that their stats look good, to the detriment of much else that's important in a dental education.

-In subtle but relentless ways, the clinical years at Penn, with their ridiculous (and getting ridiculouser all the time) point equivalency system (or whatever it's called now), teaches their students to commoditize their patients. In other words, graduation, and presumably specializing, is the overarching goal and patients are increasingly viewed as simply a means to that end, and traded like cattle among juniors and seniors. I've seen it, it's not pretty. It's not how dental students should be trained. I know, I know, it happens at other schools too. That doesn't mean we should accept this. These are human beings we are treating, not "equivalency points" in crown and bridge or endo.

-The debt difference is at an insane level here in your specific example. The difference in your life after graduation is not even possible to measure. I was in debt to the levels that your Penns and NYUs get you to, I know what that pain is. As do many, many others here. Ask any of us how hard it was. Or is.

On the positive side, since these decisions are always complex, the didactic education at Penn is amazing. I and many other grads can keep up with MDs all day long, when it comes to complex medical issues. Until they correct these major structural issues in the clinic, though...

 

[Vigilante]

Not to sound like a stalker, but haven't you also applied for HPSP and even volunteered yourself to join the service without receiving the scholarship if you attend UConn on a full-ride? Why not just do army HPSP and go to the school of your choice? It's even better than your deal at UConn, seeing as they also throw in 20K signing bonus, 2k/month stipend, and 6 wks of AD pay, and you obviously seem interested in joining the military. To me, that option seems like the no-brainer...

Sorry if I have you confused with someone else.

 

[Daurang]

$400,000 free higher education and you have to even think about it? You're smart enough to get a free ride at UConn, you're smart enough to figure it out right this second!!!

 

[PSKDentist]

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[Azide047]

Hi everyone,

The full-ride is at UConn and it requires one of the following after graduation: 1 year GPR in CT OR 1 year working in community clinic OR 2 years teaching

I am strongly interested in specializing in OMFS and am wondering if this full-ride would affect my chances since I have that requirement to take care of. Also, I know Penn is awesome for specializing and I really liked Penn when I visited. I also feel that Penn might have a stronger clinical side.

Another thing to note is that UConn is P/F and now that the boards have gone P/F, I am kind of worried in that respect. However, they are in with the med school so that may be a plus. Thanks in advance for your help!

How did you get a full-ride???? What's the scholarship called?


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[y123]

UConn
If your parents are not paying, that is an unbeatable deal.
If your parents are paying then go to Penn

 

[dr.d00m]

UConn
If your parents are not paying, that is an unbeatable deal.
If your parents are paying then go to Penn

Great advice..only about 5 years too late

 

[y123]

Great advice..only about 5 years too late

Didn't notice the date lol

 

[Azide047]

Regardless of the date, can someone explain if and how UConn offers full tuition scholarships?


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[Faux]

I remember reading some older thread about it that was a few years old. You still need to pay for living expenses. Also fees I think

 

[deleted738762]

Great advice..only about 5 years too late

Actually, bad advice. Why would you want to waste 400k dollars of your parents money when you have a free ride. It's a good thing he was 5 years late with that **** advice 😀