Is it possible to get into an Ivy school without research experience.
Haha. Good one. Why is it that Michael Jackson jokes are always automatically funny and never get old? Could he possibly be the easiest individual to make fun of ever?chameleonknight said:Its like trying to out-ugly Michael Jackson.
edit that too....Alexander99 said:It'd probably be like trying to skate uphill.
Yet my friend got told at Yale that his lack of research would prevent him from getting in there at an interview. The interviewer was right.rackd8ball said:did you knwo that 50% of the students in any entering class at yale med have had no formal research training?
its not a prereq to have research at a lot of schools... some are more known for research than others, but not all.
That REALLY sucks. I wish schools would be MORE UPFRONT about what they want to see in their admitted students and what background they're looking for in terms of volunteering, undergraduate research, etc. When it's a mystery (like it is now)...people just waste tons of money flying out to interviews. In addition, it's just wrong to even get someone's hopes up like that when they didn't stand a chance in the first place because of lack of research experience.Gleevec said:Yet my friend got told at Yale that his lack of research would prevent him from getting in there at an interview. The interviewer was right.
Of course, they could have told him this by email rather than making him waste money to fly up there...
rackd8ball said:did you knwo that 50% of the students in any entering class at yale med have had no formal research training?
You are right, Ivy is just a sport league, it's not that big of a deal.thewebthsp said:First, while some very fine med schools happen to be Ivy, six of the top ten aren't, so I wouldn't be hung up by the ivy moniker.
Second, wetlab research definitely isn't a prereq. Doing some scholarly experience however is pretty important, but that might be a writing fellowship doing bioethics, or clinical research with a doc. Or travel and scholarly activity. There are many paths to the same thing. I'm definitely not a fan of the wetlab, having a yearlong painful experience in college, but I got over it and figured out what I like.
i was talking to emile boulpaep about it. that's what he told me, i figured he was a good source.. perhaps his percentage is off?surge said:Umm... I don't know what you mean by 'formal research training', but unless you are referring to those coming in with a masters or a PhD, your statement is false.
Would you care to give a reference, I'd love to check it out (essentially all of my classmates must be lying...)
i think we can all guess to the answer to why someone wants to get into an ivy without any research...personal jesus said:The question is why do you want to go to any ivy if you arnt interested in research. The ivies tend to focus on producing the next batch of academics. If your interest is straight clinical med then dont worry too much about the Ivys.
SunnyS81 said:I concur on the opinion regarding why do you want to go to an ivy (or any premiere) med school if you don't want to go into acadamia.
First of all that's my dad's opinion. For me the name comes into play because I liked both schools the same so I need to evaluate everything else as well. I don't think that Pitt would be that much better in terms of oportunities in academic medicine but it's not like it's a choice right now either. I got wait-listed at Pitt but I am already starting to think about what I would do should I get of the waitlistthewebthsp said:Going to a school for "the name" is a really crappy idea, it seems to me.
Go to the school where you like it the best. That determination will wholly be up to you.
For me residency reputation and education matter most, with location near to home a close second. Dartmouth has some interesting quirks (outdoors/rural environs) but if you want more academic medicine opportunities and connections then Pitt is the place to go.
Oh and yeah most Ivies have at least decent med schools. Plus Cornell's isn't in Ithaca. My favorite med school is Princeton's personally.