Goljan Path Audio lectures??

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How would you rate these?? One of my friends got an average score and said that they were pretty decent and another of my friends got an amazing score (250/99) and said they they and Goljan RR were essential for the pathology section and FA would be suffice for everything else..

ALSO I downloaded the Goljan pdfs (general path and special path) and found that they are pretty much the same as the Goljan rapid review book...does the Goljan Rapid Review book follow his audio lectures for pathology??

A friend of mine gave me a written transcript of his audio lectures; havent looked at them but I m guessing they are probably very similar to his RR book.
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NRAI2001 said:
How would you rate these?? One of my friends got an average score and said that they were pretty decent and another of my friends got an amazing score (250/99) and said they they and Goljan RR were essential for the pathology section and FA would be suffice for everything else..

ALSO I downloaded the Goljan pdfs (general path and special path) and found that they are pretty much the same as the Goljan rapid review book...does the Goljan Rapid Review book follow his audio lectures for pathology??

A friend of mine gave me a written transcript of his audio lectures; havent looked at them but I m guessing they are probably very similar to his RR book.
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We had a panel of 3rd years at my school tell us about their experiences with Step 1 and 99% of them used Goljan in one way or another. Of course there are people who did well without them as you can see on these forums, but for the most part it seems like his lectures (or his RR Path book) come highly recommended by many people. I know upwards of 10 people who scored 260+ and all of them used the audio lectures and/or his rapid review path book. The lectures and book don't correspond with eachother 100% as far as layout goes, but theres a document floating around somewhere on the internet that correlates the specific lectures to the corresponding parts in the book.
 
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the book follows a basic outline that the audio has but in a different order. The key facts in his audio is almost always in his books (like the really key explanations you wish you got in medical school). Its actually kind of obnoxious actually trying to go back and forth notes vs book. I have given up on that.

What I do is read the book first, then listen with the transcript that can be found on the internet, then somewhere along the line I listen to audio and read book over again. From what I read, the best scorers on this board have listened to the audio numerous times, upward 3-4 times. I plan on doing that.
 
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His lectures are great for following along in path and also in place of Robbins when you don't feel like reading the sections.

It's high yield and even though it is from 2002, I am a big fan.
 
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Love Goljan because he's always hammering away at pathophysiology and making connections that you don't necessarily get when things are presented in "subject" or "organ system" blocks.

The audio can be tedious at times because he has a tendency to ramble, but its good stuff.
 
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I think that Goljan path lectures were very helpful. I only had the audio, but I think that he is very good at coming up with catch phrases and key words and memory tricks to help you remember some details for the step one. I would listen to him a lot in my car during the weeks that I studied.

My biggest advice for Step I is to study hard and don't overwhelm yourself by using too many resources. I know some students in my class that had Kaplan books, first aid, step up,and more and tried to get through all of these resources before taking the exam. I only used First Aid and used it as a study guide. I went over the topics on each page and made sure that I understood them in full detail. I added a LOT of my own notes. When I came across a topic that I was weak on, I would open up my textbook and quickly read a section about it until I understood it. I was able to reread first aid and my notes 2-3 times before taking the exam instead of only halfway finishing 5 different review books.

I got a 239/99 on step I. I was happy with that. Don't overwhelm yourself, use your study time wisely and don't let others freak you out. Make a studying routine that works for you and stick to it.
 
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This right here is a golden post:

georgiapeach said:
My biggest advice for Step I is to study hard and don't overwhelm yourself by using too many resources. I know some students in my class that had Kaplan books, first aid, step up,and more and tried to get through all of these resources before taking the exam. I only used First Aid and used it as a study guide. I went over the topics on each page and made sure that I understood them in full detail. I added a LOT of my own notes. When I came across a topic that I was weak on, I would open up my textbook and quickly read a section about it until I understood it. I was able to reread first aid and my notes 2-3 times before taking the exam instead of only halfway finishing 5 different review books.

I got a 239/99 on step I. I was happy with that. Don't overwhelm yourself, use your study time wisely and don't let others freak you out. Make a studying routine that works for you and stick to it.
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Just use FA, Uworld, and do a couple NBMEs. (I also did MRS micro and MRS neuro because those are my weak subjects.) Then take the test. Don't spread yourself too thin. Having said that, I think if you are wishing to get a 250+, then FA is not enough. To get a 235+ (and even a 99), I think FA and Uworld are enough.
 
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I like to listen to Goljan for a few hours each day [2 lectures, usually], mainly as a way to rest my eyes from all the reading. It's like a productive nap time... try answering his questions outloud/filling in the blanks before he says something to stay awake/focus.
 
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Did anyone else like the part in one of his hematology lectures where he talked about how girls use tissues to stop bleeding after shaving cuts, and guys use toilet paper? I was like damn...that is right on!
 
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Goljan is the God of Pathology. Period.

I started listening to his audio lectures in MS1, and they helped me obtain the top score on pathology shelve exams at my school and also a 276/99 on step 1.

Btw, I love his jokes too. 😀
 
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I found this post on usmleforum about some funny facts/trivia of Dr. Goljan. Very funny if you have listened to his audio lectures before. Just thought I would share this with all the Goljan fans out there. 😀

http://www.usmleforum.com/files/forum/2007/1/238092.php

Dr. Edward F. Goljan - sometimes referred to as The father of USMLE Pathology!
I like to think of it this way, he's not only the ABC of pathology, but also the DEFG of pathology! Dr. Edward F. Goljan! You rock!

Here are a few weird/useless/crazy facts about him:
And believe it or not, these I learnt from his lectures !! (Imagine how much he loves goin astray! But we don't mind it, do we!)

*He was born in Brooklyn.
*He has ADHD! and so does his son, Keith.
*He also has BPH.
*His wife had anorexia nervosa
*He has acanthosis nigracans in his axilla!! (Eeew! Yes he says that!)
*His daughter once had infectious mononucleosis. She stays in Colorado.
*His sister lives on Huntington street, Brooklyn, NY. And she has a typical brooklyn accent.
*His mother-in-law died of multiple myeloma.
*He was posted as medicine resident at Tampa Bay. The very first day he had two patients of cardiorespiratory arrest. And both lived!!
*He's good friends with Dr Stanley Passo (Physiology; reinforces concepts taught by him), Dr. Barbara Hansen (Biochemistry; says she's the best, and yes she actaully is! I luv her too! Heck she deserves a fan club of her own!) & Dr Anthony Trevor (Pharmacology; Of Katzung & Trevor fame! Pulls his leg a lot! Says his british accent is fake! And that when Trevor says he's from England, he means England, Arkansas!)
*When in Italy, he was involved in a faux pas regarding the Italian accent, and his wife called him an idiot and a jerk! And also "kicked his butt"!
*He thinks the British never order for any investigations! All their diagnoses are purely based on physical examination!
*He loves Arnold Schwarzenegger
*He doesn't know what HGPRT stands for!!
*Ran with his friend, Bob, in the Boston Marathon and later when Bob was "peeing" he saw the hemoglobinuria! (Man, this guy!! )
*Favorite phrases: "Stinkin'", "No way in God's green earth!", "I don't know dork!", "Big time", "Think Cheap"

He is half Armenian and half Polish. People call him "Poppy". He graduated from Temple University Medical School in Philly, did his residency at Reading Hospital, PA. He had grade 3 internal hemorrhoid. He believes in miracles because he once had Lou Gehrig disease and was cured. His mother had villous polyps which turned out to be benign. She was also diagnosed with a hydrocephalus. His son Keith, sadly, passed away two years ago (learned from somewhere else).

He also learned how to "let the gas out keeping the moist part in" because he's got Lactose intolerance. He does this 'letting" thing in public places thinking that he is by himself, and then makes fun at the faces women have who happen to be there at that time....
He makes fun at his doctor who does the rectal exam on him. Because he has trained his sphincter muscles so well, so he can keep the finger of the doctor for a long time without letting it go...
He eats the food after dropping it on the floor even the dog was there. He actually tries to get it from the floor faster before dog gets it. And then calls his wife a "giant bug"...
His daughter has had Gestational Diabates as many times as she was pregnant, so she has to watch her sugar from now on, because in the long run if she doesn't it can turn into DM.
He likes Sturbacks coffee.
Also, he has very "nice" way of treating premature babies with insufficient surfactant. Especially those who's was born thru C-section. But the treatment should be done in the room with nobody there...

Knuckle knucke dimple knuckle vs knuckle knuckle dimple dimple...
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Everything is true above as far as I remember except his daughter had gestational diabetes with two of her three pregnancies (not all), and now she has to check her sugar.

Not arguing the point just pointing something out, as I've listened to them too many times.
 
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Clarification: when I said before "I've listened to them too many times," I don't really mean that. I mean I'm going to strap an iPod to my wife and tape the earbuds to her stomach playing endless Goljan to our babies when she's pregnant. Those kids for be grateful for it one day!
 
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Another Goljan groupie here. He was my favorite resource, although his jokes started to get annoying and he might have said two things incorrectly. I took him to the gym, grocery store and long drives. Couldn't take him swimming however. I swear on test day he was whispering answers in my ear.
 
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Clarification: when I said before "I've listened to them too many times," I don't really mean that. I mean I'm going to strap an iPod to my wife and tape the earbuds to her stomach playing endless Goljan to our babies when she's pregnant. Those kids for be grateful for it one day!/QUOTE]


I wish my dad cared about me this much..
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

So what does red think about this.
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She's just happy that Dr Goljan had that restraining order put in place because otherwise she knows I'd be in his front yard in Oklahoma. Fortunately I can still spend time with him as I told you early I have almost all day today.
 
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abuecker said:
She's just happy that Dr Goljan had that restraining order put in place because otherwise she knows I'd be in his front yard in Oklahoma. Fortunately I can still spend time with him as I told you early I have almost all day today.
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did you last all day, or did you tucker yourself out after the first lecture. Another possibility is you violated the restraining order and gave Papi a call.
 
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Did you read the RR path book also, or just his audio?

Pollux said:
Goljan is the God of Pathology. Period.

I started listening to his audio lectures in MS1, and they helped me obtain the top score on pathology shelve exams at my school and also a 276/99 on step 1.

Btw, I love his jokes too. 😀
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Just a friendly reminder from your neighborhood wet blanket:

The Goljan Audio (and any associated materials) are copyright violations. Their distribution is illegal. Posting links to them on SDN will result in an infraction. If you want access to his content, he sells a book.

Thanks.
 
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I've read this "Don't talk about the Goljan lectures" stuff so many times. Fair enough a blanket rule on these forums is no bootlegged material, but when it comes to Goljan I'm almost positive he has no problem with it. Why? Because if it weren't for the bootlegged copy of his lectures he'd be a nobody to us instead of the god-father of pathology. We wouldn't know him and consequently his book sales would be probably be half what it they are now. He has no commercially available audio or video lectures, only his live rapid review sessions, so we're not short changing him there. In addition most of us international students don't have the capacity to attend his live lectures, although I'm sure his bootlegged fame has booked out his live session from here until 30 years after his death.

I don't feel bad about possessing the audio lectures – it did him a favour, it compelled me to buy his book.
 
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im only an m2 but i love the goljan audio. i listen to it whenever im tired of studying. it really has helped me in coursework. i find it pretty enjoyable cause he's kinda a nut but knows what he's talking about.
 
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Wallabie said:
Fair enough a blanket rule on these forums is no bootlegged material, but when it comes to Goljan I'm almost positive he has no problem with it.
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Absolutely, 100% incorrect.

I know Goljan personally. I'm a graduate of OSU-COM and have known his daughter (and the grandsons he so frequently talks about) for many years. He has made it very clear that these audio tapes are illegal copies of his copywritten lectures and that they should not be distributed. He has legitimately obtainable and updated information in his books.
 
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DrMom said:
Absolutely, 100% incorrect.

I know Goljan personally. I'm a graduate of OSU-COM and have known his daughter (and the grandsons he so frequently talks about) for many years. He has made it very clear that these audio tapes are illegal copies of his copywritten lectures and that they should not be distributed. He has legitimately obtainable and updated information in his books.
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He even says so on his own website.

"Why buy contraband Goljan notes and tapes when everything I teach is found in these books (with all color photos) for under $40.00."

Though, to be honest, no one needs to buy the contraband stuff if they can use le google. (I still bought the book either way)Be nice if Goljan sold an updated version of the audio lectures. I'm sure his contract with the board review course precludes him from doing so though.
 
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Goljan Audio is almost as important as his book. He gives helpful hints and ways to remember things as well as suppl info not in the book. Listening to it once won't do. My strategy has been to Read the chapter once, listen to it right after you finish reading the chapter so you don't get lost. Also listen to it during the school year to supplement your path class. Annotate anything that's NOT in the book. You may find out what you annotated is written else where in the book but that's ok because you remember how that same concept fits in a different part of the book.
 
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I never understood why he didn't make a high quality version of the audio notes instead of that stolen stuff. I'd buy them in a heartbeat. I already have rapid review.
 
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MossPoh said:
I never understood why he didn't make a high quality version of the audio notes instead of that stolen stuff. I'd buy them in a heartbeat. I already have rapid review.
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Rapid Review path already is a high quality version of the notes that go along with the audio.

As for why he doesn't sell his own audio lectures, the man is probably under contract with the review course he works for not to do so.
 
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Raryn said:
Rapid Review path already is a high quality version of the notes that go along with the audio.

As for why he doesn't sell his own audio lectures, the man is probably under contract with the review course he works for not to do so.
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Well yea....I was just referring to audio. I never even looked at the notes that supposedly accompany the audio.

These people could make so much money if they just friggin went along with it. There is an obvious market demand. I'd gladly throw down 30 bucks for some high quality and well structured audio.
 
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lord_jeebus said:
When it comes to Goljan I'm almost positive he does have a problem with it. Why? Because he has said so to staff members (not me) who have had him as a professor.
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Yeah I'm sure he cries himself to sleep on his imported 1000 thread count Egyptian Cotton sheets each night. I have no doubt he says it bothers him, if you haven't already worked it out the guy is a tad bit eccentric and just a fraction prone to exaggeration. The bottom line is he probably has benefited from the notoriety the pirated lecture has bought him and I've no doubt he's aware of it - whether he's willing to admit it or not.

Just to make it clear, I'm not anti-Goljan, I like his quirky sense of humour and I think he's a fantastic teacher, plus I've spent the cash and bought his book. I'm simply suggesting that perhaps he's not the poor, hard done by victim he is often made out to be on these forums.
 
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I never use the Audio, I am just sticking to the book. I don't wanna use too many resources and burn out...but I hear positive things from my classmates who DO use them.

For me, I'm not a passive learner, I won't retain much having someone else just teach me. I've listened to a few and he does seem interactive, but for studying wise, reading the book + First Aid seems more productive.
 
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