GOP Nominee- Vote

[BLADEMDA]

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Assuming Romney wins the nomination, I'd be shocked if he asked Paul to take the VP spot, and doubly shocked if Paul accepted.

McCain's campaign freaked when Palin strayed from her talking points (granted, she's an idiot) but I can only imagine the heads exploding within Romney's campaign with VP-candidate Paul saying the things he always says. Because you know he won't modify his positions to fit in ...

I'm hoping he is in the end a practical politician. I'm also hoping Paul will make Romney move towards the Tea Party as he needs their support.

I view Paul as a major plus as V-P on the GOP ticket.

 

[Apollyon]

Newter didn't make in Virginia, his home state. He is pretty much done.

Paul vs Romney is a no brainer.

Congrats Dr. Paul.

Well, "Newter" (that made me laugh more than it should have) was born in PA, but did all of his political business in Georgia. He's only been in VA for 12 years, and, being in NOVA (Norther Virginia) makes one as Virginian as saying you're black makes you black (if you're not black).

On the other hand, I also just found out he has a PhD in history from Tulane, and I wonder if, when he sees Dr. Jill Biden, if he says, "Oh, hi, I'm Dr. Newt Gingrich!"

 

[Consigliere]

None of this matters, kids. Obama will be re-elected in 2012. The general public is too stupid.

 

[Osteoimperfecta]

I'm hoping he is in the end a practical politician. I'm also hoping Paul will make Romney move towards the Tea Party as he needs their support.

I view Paul as a major plus as V-P on the GOP ticket.

I am not sure I will risk it with Paul. Romney-huntsman, or Romney-Santorum makes more sense.

 

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[BLADEMDA]

Romney/rand Paul or Romney/Christie or Romney/Rubio. I prefer Romney/Rand Paul as I want this nation's debt addressed.

 

[pd4emergence]

Like a lot of people have said I like paul's fiscal policy but think his isolationism is just not realistic in the modern world. I like his frankness and honesty but honestly don't think a a ticket with him on it is electable. Right now Obama and a generic repub are pretty much even in the polls. Wait till the great one starts campaigning. He will campaign on the same hope and change crap he espoused before except now he has a congress to blame for his lack of effectiveness. He has 240 million dollars in his war chest. Get ready for prime time hour with the president on your tv. Get ready for the hope and change tshirts. It will be an uphill battle because the I think the general electorate will believe that the reason the economy hasn't gotten better, or that they don't have jobs or that their house is in foreclosure is because of the evil repubs in congress blocking all of obama's efforts to right the ship. Hopefully enough of the die hard Obama followers will be apathetic enough to stay home on election day, and hopefully Romney is able to toe the line and persuade enough of the independents to his corner. I think that the ultra right wingers will vote for anybody but Obama, so hopefully Romney will keep his message somewhere close enough to the middle to get enough independents to vote for him. I think if he pulls a McCain and picks an ultra right wing nut job as his running mate he will lose.

 

[urge]

Even mainstream media is coming to terms with the fact that Dr. Paul is very electable:


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-tied-with-romney-paul-in-november-showdowns/

 

[Narcotized]

Even mainstream media is coming to terms with the fact that Dr. Paul is very electable:


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-tied-with-romney-paul-in-november-showdowns/

He needs to start winning some states. This would be greatly helped by Perry-Santorum-Gingrich exiting. One on one he beats Romney.

 

[BLADEMDA]

He needs to start winning some states. This would be greatly helped by Perry-Santorum-Gingrich exiting. One on one he beats Romney.

Wrong!!

One on one Newt beats Romney. I'll be curious to see if my State goes for Romney or Newt. Yes, I'm voting for Romney because of Newt's past (3 marriages, Kicked out as Speaker of the House, heavily sanctioned, Freddie Mac paid him 1.6 million, etc)

 

[Mac4]

I am starting to give up on the republican party. I am not sure this is the party I want to be assciated with when someone like Newt Gingrich can win. I was pretty disappointed with the nominations of the unelectable Sharon Angle, Christie O"Donnell, Joe Miller, Ken Buck etc in 2010, but seeing Newt beaming last night is probably the final straw.

 

[imfrankie]

Obama contingent must be jumping for joy that Newt won S. Carolina. It sort of cracks me up, given S. Carolina's trashing of McCain a few years back. Times they are a changin. Obama crushes Newt.

 

[jwk]

I am starting to give up on the republican party.

Then you clearly either don't hear or don't understand the message, nor the dangers of another Obama administration that will leave America fundamentally changed for the worse for generations to come.

 

[Bertelman]

Then you clearly either don't hear or don't understand the message, nor the dangers of another Obama administration that will leave America fundamentally changed for the worse for generations to come.

The beauty of our governance is it's ability to self-correct by challenges to law, dilution of power and regular turnover of our leaders.

We've had some very bad presidents over the years. I know it's always fun for either political side to complain about how awful the current president is, and how it will take a decade to pull us out of this wreck, but in my 35+ years, I just haven't seen it. I'm not exactly a presidential historian, but the only 2 that come to mind which I can truthfully say changed this country "for generations" are the original GW and Lincoln. Everyone else was just a pothole, or a missed turn at worst.

If these last few years has taught me anything, it's that capitalism and greed drive this country, for better or worse, and the laws we make to protect individuals and our country are playing catch-up every step of the way.

 

[Narcotized]

Wrong!!

One on one Newt beats Romney. QUOTE]

One on one, they all beat Romney. Republicans basically don't want Obama-lite.

 

[Narcotized]

Everyone else was just a pothole.

A rather large 15 trillion dollar pothole, that is.

 

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[Bertelman]

A rather large 15 trillion dollar pothole, that is.

He's just the latest in a long line of leaders in both the White House and Congress that have been leveraging our future to cover the present ****storm as they see it. This train left the station before he was born.

 

[pgg]

Can you imagine Newt versus the community organizer in a debate? hahaha. Talk about exposed. Exactly why Obama will hide behind ads and will agree to the most minimal of well scripted sound bite debates. Captain Kangaroo would slaughter him in a true battle of the minds.

Well, as you point out, theorizing that Gingrich might squish Obama in an open debate, then admitting that such a debate will never happen, doesn't really encourage belief that Gingrich can actually win 1:1 vs Obama.

All the more reason to nominate the Obama-lite Republican who might actually be able to beat Obama and move the White House back toward the middle, at least a little bit.

Beyond my basic dislike of the guy, I think Newt's an undisciplined egomaniac who can't possibly keep it together for the general election. I mean, he's already imploded TWICE in just the primary season, and the only reason he's getting a third chance is because the GOP's evangelical and neocon twin cancers can't stomach a centrist Mormon.


Then again, the economy's going to drive this election, so prognosticating the outcome of the general election now is probably about as useful as all of the bold predictions we've had to put up with concerning the Republican primary, namely
- wait, Perry's the sure-thing front-runner now
- wait, Cain's the sure-thing front-runner now
- oooooh, something shiny
- wait, Gingrich is the guy surging
- wait, Paul's support is growing and the other guys were just temporary blips
- wait, Romney's got it wrapped up after winning Iowa/NH
- squirrel!
- wait, that guy named after frothy fecal matter actually won Iowa
- wait, Gingrich won SC by a huge margin

Meanwhile, Obama is eating popcorn.

 

[Bertelman]

 

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[imfrankie]

Can you imagine Newt versus the community organizer in a debate? hahaha. Talk about exposed. Exactly why Obama will hide behind ads and will agree to the most minimal of well scripted sound bite debates. Captain Kangaroo would slaughter him in a true battle of the minds.

I stand by my belief Obama crushes Newt in debate and in general election. Newt's apparent strength comes from an unabashed willingness to forcefully opine as if his utterances were assertions of fact. My favorite part of the last debate was hearing Santorum lay in to him.

Newt is a smart guy, sure, but the problem is you don't know when to believe him and when not, because he has a "know-it-all" personality, so is not one to acknowledge his limits. His ego is his undoing in my estimation.

I say the democrats are LOVING the prospect of Newt rather than Romney facing Obama.

Conspiracy theory says the "liberal media" tossed Newt that opening softball, knowing full well he would knock it out of the park and thereby rise in the polls. But I'm not paranoid, I'm just sayin.

 

[BLADEMDA]

A lot of coming and going....

....but I'm still buying the shiny stuff. 🙂🙂

If Obama wins Gold will go way way up

 

[Narcotized]

Everyone complains about the Republican candidates as if they would face George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. Thay would face Barack friggin Obama for crying outloud. David Duke, Anthony Weiner, or Dan Quayle would run a dead heat against Obama. Everyone needs to settle down about Newt's 3 wives or Ron Paul's foreign policy. They still would be running against a joke of a president.

Don't forget Clinton nailed anything that walked and still became president 2 decades ago when it was less accepted. The only people offended by Newt's 3 wives (very hardcore religious types) will still vote for him over friggin Obama anyway. It's a non-issue.

 

[pd4emergence]

Everyone complains about the Republican candidates as if they would face George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. Thay would face Barack friggin Obama for crying outloud. David Duke, Anthony Weiner, or Dan Quayle would run a dead heat against Obama. Everyone needs to settle down about Newt's 3 wives or Ron Paul's foreign policy. They still would be running against a joke of a president.

Don't forget Clinton nailed anything that walked and still became president 2 decades ago when it was less accepted. The only people offended by Newt's 3 wives (very hardcore religious types) will still vote for him over friggin Obama anyway. It's a non-issue.

I like watching newt, if only for the very interesting spectator sport of seeing how many people he can alienate and piss off. Newt is gonna win lots of southern states. I suspect ga, fl tn, mississippi, and maybe Texas. If he doesn't win in Florida it will be because Florida is really two states, north and south. My guess is north fl will go for newt overwhelmingly, south fl, not so much. My personal hope is that he will truly implode before doing too much damage to Romney. Not because I am a huge supporter of either one, I just don't see anybody else in the GOP field with a shot at beating Obama. I honestly think Romney chances are a long shot at best but newt's chances are much less than that. I would love to see newt get to take Obama to task in a debate, but the great orator won't subject himself to too many of those if the deck is not stacked in his favor.

 

[pgg]

I like watching newt, if only for the very interesting spectator sport of seeing how many people he can alienate and piss off.

I love that classic bewildered look when he genuinely doesn't understand why people are upset.

My personal hope is that he will truly implode before doing too much damage to Romney.

That's where my money is. I think in the end, Romney will beat out Gingrich.

If he can't, it doesn't matter, because if he's not good enough to beat Gingrich, then he'd never have been able to beat Obama anyway.

This current Round 3 of Gingrich-mania might be a good thing, because it'll force Romney to actually do something ... and if he can't, there'll still be time and an outside chance of a brokered convention and a nominee who isn't Gingrich.

 

[shaggy alfresco]

I'm very liberal so I won't vote in this poll, but I find this discussion extremely interesting. As someone who donates and would volunteer for Obama's campaign, my personal preference would certainly be for Gingrich over Romney.

The vast majority of people from the democratic side expect Romney to win, and I do as well. Against Romney it will be an extremely tough battle and the economy will need to improve or show significant signs of improvement for Obama to win. With Gingrich, Obama will win unless the economy totally goes south, and even then Gingrich might pull a 'I shut the government down because Clinton made me sit in the back of Air Force One' moment, completely turning the tide. Remember how public opinion just flipped on him in 1995 after he was stupid enough to say something like that?

Romney is much more disciplined. If I had to be honest, I would consider Obama an underdog against Romney, but definitely a significant favorite against Gingrich.

 

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[pd4emergence]

Thats an interesting opinion piece. I agree with most of it. Believe it or not over the past few years corporations have had some of the best profit margins ever. With the economy tanking, they have had the excuse to downsize and streamline their operations. They are sitting on piles of cash. The reason why they are spending or hiring or reinvesting is that the political environment has become so unpredictable that any capital investment is much riskier than just letting the cash sit around. Why did we get down graded over the summer? It's only partly because of our 15 trillion dollar debt, probably the biggest factor is the inability of Washington to get anything done and make the policy changes that need to be made. To me Obama is such a polarizing person when it comes to republicans. Even when he tries to get something done that they would generally agree with he is met with resistance at every turn. After cramming healthcare down their throats and his controversial recess appointments even when congress is not in recess, I don't blame the repubs for being pissed. Unfortunately, all this bickering is not good for the country or for fiscal policy. Obama has proven that he is an ineffective leader. He cant get congress to work together and if he is reelected there will be continued gridlock. It amazes me that every election lately always hinges on conservative values vs the dems working for the common man. This mantra is repeated over and over and as long as we keep selecting candidates based on this we will continue in this polarized political environment where nothing gets done.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S3lXDOQ7ec