Grade calculation

[vendetta23]

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I'm sorry but this is probably a repeat question, however, I couldn't find it by searching this forum (i'm pretty bad with searches).

If I graduated from UG, then decided to take undergraduate non-premedical classes at a university, but then later decided to do a formal post-bac, would the grades from the non-premedical classes I took after undergrad be incorporated in the amcas calc?

thank you very much

 

[146233]

Yes. All undergraduate-level courses will be factored into your AMCAS GPA.

 

[vendetta23]

Yes. All undergraduate-level courses will be factored into your AMCAS GPA.

Thank you for the response. This will help me 🙂

 

[LifetimeDoc]

The classification of the course doesn't matter. It depends on whether you are considered an undergraduate or graduate student. If you are a "transient graduate student" taking undergraduate courses, the grades will be placed under the "Graduate GPA" column in AMCAS (MD program application). If you already have a bachelors degree and you enroll as a "second-degree seeking undergraduate student", then the GPA for those courses will be put into a separate "Post-Bacc" column and factored into your overall undergraduate GPA.

As for the formal post-bacc programs, I'm not sure how those are handled. I know that if the program is where you are taking MS1 courses along with medical students, and you get high marks...then your GPA calculations won't matter because you've just proven that you can handle medical school coursework!

For AACOMAS (DO program application) or TMDAS (Texas's MD program application, they gotta be different, lol) things are a little different.

 

[Law2Doc]

As for the formal post-bacc programs, I'm not sure how those are handled. I know that if the program is where you are taking MS1 courses along with medical students, and you get high marks...then your GPA calculations won't matter because you've just proven that you can handle medical school coursework!

The formal postbac programs will go into the postbac category and factored into your overall GPA. You are taking undergrad level prereqs in those. The programs where you take MS1 courses are generally graduate (not formal postbac).

 

[LifetimeDoc]

The formal postbac programs will go into the postbac category and factored into your overall GPA. You are taking undergrad level prereqs in those. The programs where you take MS1 courses are generally graduate (not formal postbac).

Ahh, thanks Law2Doc! Won't some medical schools just overlook your overall GPA and see that you did well in MS1 courses (assuming that that is the type of program you did), so the risk of you not doing well in medical school is removed in their minds? That was my understanding of those types of programs as a second-chance kinda thing where if you do well you are in, and if you do poorly you'll never get in.

 

[Law2Doc]

Ahh, thanks Law2Doc! Won't some medical schools just overlook your overall GPA and see that you did well in MS1 courses (assuming that that is the type of program you did), so the risk of you not doing well in medical school is removed in their minds? That was my understanding of those types of programs as a second-chance kinda thing where if you do well you are in, and if you do poorly you'll never get in.

Some schools will look at the recent track record, a string of A's in the sciences proving you can handle the work. Which is esp why eg. SMP programs can work, notwithstanding the fact that they are graduate and don't affect the GPA. Generally the SMP type programs only let in people with at or close to a 3.0 though, so you can't have done too poorly to go this route. However you never really lose the ug GPA so if you are able to pull it up with postbac work, it often pays to do so.

 

[some_user86]

What if you are a graduate student at UTHSCSA but also apply for an informal postbac program at UTSA so that you can take some undergraduate courses there? UTHSCSA and UTSA are both part of the UT system, but are two different and separate institutions in San Antonio. UTHSCSA is obviously the health science center with the medical and dental school and a graduate program, while UTSA is a traditional undergraduate and graduate university. How would the AMCAS GPA system work with this case?

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

What if you are a graduate student at UTHSCSA but also apply for an informal postbac program at UTSA so that you can take some undergraduate courses there? UTHSCSA and UTSA are both part of the UT system, but are two different and separate institutions in San Antonio. UTHSCSA is obviously the health science center with the medical and dental school and a graduate program, while UTSA is a traditional undergraduate and graduate university. How would the AMCAS GPA system work with this case?

It's not the school that matters, it's the classes. Undergrad classes = Undergrad. Grad classes = Grad.

 

[some_user86]

It's not the school that matters, it's the classes. Undergrad classes = Undergrad. Grad classes = Grad.

So, I could take undergraduate courses at the same institution where I am taking my graduate degree and those undergraduate courses would count towards the ungdergrad gpa? This is directly contradicting what LifetimeDoc just said above. Mind you, I am still deciding where to go for my graduate studies, so this could be quite helpful. Thanks.

 

[Law2Doc]

So, I could take undergraduate courses at the same institution where I am taking my graduate degree and those undergraduate courses would count towards the ungdergrad gpa? This is directly contradicting what LifetimeDoc just said above. Mind you, I am still deciding where to go for my graduate studies, so this could be quite helpful. Thanks.

I would tend to agree with LifetimeDoc on this one. If your school classifies you as a grad student, I suspect pretty much everything on that grad student transcript is likely going to get lumped into the grad category by AMCAS regardless of level.