Grey's Anatomy

[Brianna]

Hi there! Anyone saw Grey's Anatomy last night?? What did u all think?? How's that for your first day at a surgical intership 😳 ?? IMO the show was really awesome and intense.

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[blue2000]

I watched. I felt like I had to, esp. since I'm going to be a surgical intern in Seattle starting in a few months. It was, well, okay. To nitpick:

1) No 48 hour shifts anymore.

2) I've never met a chief like the one they portrayed. Chiefs don't want the patients to die, and an interns first day is not the time to let them loose in the hospital.

3) Four interns on one team. What?

4) Surgery service taking care of a girl with a seizure disorder. Hmm.

But overall, I thought it was decently written, decently acted. I'll watch a few more episodes, but I'm not in love.

 

[gatorAKM]

the show misrepresents the surgical intern lifestyle, but it is what is interesting for the lay public. Its drama and heroism, which is what people want when they watch TV. lots of "creative liberties" - CT surgeons doing appys, and neurosurgeon work up of seizure disorders, (neurology works up refractory seizures or seizures of unknown origin).

its a chance for the producers to put attractive people together on screen with unique storylines - its for the ratings, and its fiction.

 

[Gut Shot]

Unfortunately I subjected myself to the show last night. I'm not going into surgery, so could someone please enlighten me?

1. Is there a surgery intern on the planet who doesn't know the five main causes of post-op fever?

2. Is there a surgery program where, on the first day, one of the interns is handed a scalpel and told to perform abdominal surgery without assistance?

3. Is there a collection of surgery interns anywhere that appear as if they have never even gone through a 3rd year surgery rotations before? Who the hell promises the patient that he'll be okay? Who is doing his first blood draw as an intern?

4. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who punishes an intern by making him go tell a family that dear old dad croaked under the knife?

5. Is there a hospital on this continent where an intern tells the family about said croaking (see 4.) in what appears to be the hospital lobby?

6. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who shovels a seizure disorder of unknown etiology onto the interns?

 

[tom_jones]

Unfortunately I subjected myself to the show last night. I'm not going into surgery, so could someone please enlighten me?

1. Is there a surgery intern on the planet who doesn't know the five main causes of post-op fever?

Probably. There are a lot of *******es out there - esp. in Seattle


2. Is there a surgery program where, on the first day, one of the interns is handed a scalpel and told to perform abdominal surgery without assistance?

I hope not. The guy did get pretty far though. Impressive.


3. Is there a collection of surgery interns anywhere that appear as if they have never even gone through a 3rd year surgery rotations before? Who the hell promises the patient that he'll be okay? Who is doing his first blood draw as an intern?

He was starting an IV and the pt was probably a hard stick. I promise you'll be OK.


4. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who punishes an intern by making him go tell a family that dear old dad croaked under the knife?

Or better yet, an attending that makes the intern stand outside the OR and watch through the window? Usually people like a little retracting help and someone to cut the sutures.

5. Is there a hospital on this continent where an intern tells the family about said croaking (see 4.) in what appears to be the hospital lobby?


Or discusses the seizure pt in and elevator? HIPAA sucks ass


6. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who shovels a seizure disorder of unknown etiology onto the interns?[/QUOTE]

Or is there someone with a SAH that has a normal LP. Also, I think the grand mal pt would have some ventilation problems before the V-fib.


Overall I'm happy there's a new surgery show - it may make surgery the next sexy specialty like EM. But some of the actors looked like DB's though.

 

[pamchenko]

1. Is there a surgery intern on the planet who doesn't know the five main causes of post-op fever?

maybe all the interns were FMGs (j/k, i know alot of fmgs read this board)

2. Is there a surgery program where, on the first day, one of the interns is handed a scalpel and told to perform abdominal surgery without assistance?

certain community programs i'm sure.

3. Is there a collection of surgery interns anywhere that appear as if they have never even gone through a 3rd year surgery rotations before? Who the hell promises the patient that he'll be okay? Who is doing his first blood draw as an intern?

certain med schools have such great nursing, i've never had to put in an IV and i still dont know how...where i'm going for residency i won't have to put in any IVs as well 🙂 keepin the streak alive!

4. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who punishes an intern by making him go tell a family that dear old dad croaked under the knife?

what a malignant program! explains why this program didn't fill their match and probably had a bunch of fmgs scramble into their program. hence the failure to answer about post op fever

5. Is there a hospital on this continent where an intern tells the family about said croaking (see 4.) in what appears to be the hospital lobby?

hahaha...hospital lobby is truly ridiculous, i'd imagine they'd be brought into a room. nice pickup

6. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who shovels a seizure disorder of unknown etiology onto the interns?

ofcourse a surgery attending will dump this medicine/neurology/non-surgery BS onto the residents for their "learning benefit."


i really liked how the interns seemed like none of them went thru a surgery clerkship, and how the really cute intern realized first day of internship why she wanted to be a surgeon. i missed the first half of the show...when did the intern and the attending sleep with one another? when she was a med student? during orientation? oh, isnt the asian intern from Arliss?

 

[pamchenko]

i would have an episode just about scut. all kinds.

another episode would be dedicated to chasing down a CT scan since the hospital wasn't on PACS

i would have an episode dedicated to showing the world how much ER dumps or how many patients they've killed.

another great episode would be a grand rounds where the attendings got into a fight, or even if the attendings decided to just yell at the intern for no reason.

i would also add more cast members...where are all the prelim surgs? those designated into other subspecialities would have a catch phrase "only 1 year of this BS before ENT (or ortho)"

 

[Amy]

Yeah, I had to watch this too, since I'll be a surg intern all too soon. There were so many inaccuracies that I really didn't like it. I know it's geared toward laypeople, but I have a hard time watching medical dramas since they're so inaccurate. I get mad. 😛

Another inaccuracy that hasn't been mentioned yet: Did anyone notice the intern drinking a juice box outside of the OR?!?! You can't have food in the clean area!

 

[Dupree]

Guys, it's just a show. It is so like med students and doctors to carry over their anality to fictional TV shows.

 

[Gut Shot]

Guys, it's just a show. It is so like med students and doctors to carry over their anality to fictional TV shows.

Dupree, it's just some venting about a show that couldn't even be entertaining with its ******ation.

 

[OldPsychDoc]

I watched. I felt like I had to, esp. since I'm going to be a surgical intern in Seattle starting in a few months. It was, well, okay. To nitpick:

1) No 48 hour shifts anymore.

2) I've never met a chief like the one they portrayed. Chiefs don't want the patients to die, and an interns first day is not the time to let them loose in the hospital.

3) Four interns on one team. What?

4) Surgery service taking care of a girl with a seizure disorder. Hmm.

But overall, I thought it was decently written, decently acted. I'll watch a few more episodes, but I'm not in love.

Worst...medical show...ever...

I had all of the same reactions. And what about having interns on the same team assigned to different attendings--one of whom has to be a neurosurgeon, another unable to decide if he's a god-like general surgeon or a humble cardiothoracic guy?

I'll probably just keep watching b/c I like to pick on these things...

 

[Dupree]

Dupree, it's just some venting about a show that couldn't even be entertaining with its ******ation.

Yeah I know. A lot of the same stuff was said about the innacurracies in 'ER'.

 

[Gator Fan]

I too felt as though I had to watch. I thought is was entertaining....of course, I think I found it more entertaining because of all the inaccuracies.

What I thought about the most was all the scenes where the intern gets paged re: some crisis with a patient, then stands there frozen as the nurses ask what the intern wants to do, and the intern's first response is "page the chief". I kept thinking about how that was going to be me in a few months and it started to freak me out 😱

 

[fourthyear]

Come on, it was great - I loved it.

Sure it wasn't terribly realistic at parts - who would want to watch it if it were realistic? It's kinda boring to just watch people do scut all day. I do think in general they captured the pressure surgery interns feel to try not to show the fact that they are scared to death on their first day, the pressure to make a good impression and try not to be that guy who gets the repuation of the weak one from day one. It captured the traditional feel of the intimidating cheifs and attendings typically associated with surgery residencies.

For some specific arguments to above comments...It probably wasn't that the guy forgot the causes of post-op fever - he just froze under the pressure of being pimped in front of everyone - very realistic even for a pompous jerk like this character. And maybe you don't have to run a code or tell a family of a patient's death on your first day, but the first day you do have to do it feels just as bad as they made it look in the show that it might as well be your first day so at least you can get that first time over with. As they showed, not everything we do is glamorous (hot chick doing rectal exams all day, high-powered attending losing a patient on the table), but some of it is really cool, and really fun.

Finally - a show that makes the surgery residents look like the hard-working heros we are (instead of letting the general public think ER docs are the life-savers of the hospital). Again, I liked it.

 

[Apollyon]

Oh, and, I was told that this surgery intern now rotating in the ED did an appy himself on the third day - I specifically questioned this, and was told that it was true.

 

[Bovie9]

I think I may scrub in with an advanced procedure today. Wish me luck!

 

[Gut Shot]

It probably wasn't that the guy forgot the causes of post-op fever - he just froze under the pressure of being pimped in front of everyone - very realistic even for a pompous jerk like this character.

A more plausible scenario: the screenwriter figured that it would be a good time to make the character Meredith Grey shine at the expense of the arrogant character. He/she flipped through Surgical Recall and found what looked like a good pimp question, then wrote that into the script, which was then performed by actors on a set and filmed.

Let's just say that my disbelief was somewhat less than suspended.

 

[Gut Shot]

Oh, and, I was told that this surgery intern now rotating in the ED did an appy himself on the third day - I specifically questioned this, and was told that it was true.

Therein lies the idiocy of this show. Surgery was my first clerkship and the interns were all in the OR day after day, cutting and sewing. They had actually done a surgery clerkship, surgery AI and multiple surgery electives before starting internship. The attendings and residents actually helped them and taught them during procedures. Funny, I don't recall any of them doing any of this while their fellow interns looked on from the bleachers.

 

[rubyness]

Ha ha ha. I couldn't help myself-- I had to watch. If only to see how unbelieveably glamourous, sexy and heroic my life is about to become as a surgical intern.

Some of my favorite highlights include:

--when she threw up. This came after she was supposed to run a code on her first day and stood there like a frozen statue. Yeah, that happens all the time. People who go into surgery like to jump in there, we don't stand around with our jaws dropped onto the ground and then go puke afterwards.

--I also liked the guy who promised dad would be ok, spent however long simply waiting outside of the OR while drinking his juice, and then chose to tell the family in the lobby. Nice. I especially enjoyed how he had all that time to waste just sitting outside the OR.

--I like the Seinfeld-junior mint- observatory above the OR. I also like how all 470 new interns had all that time to go watch an appendectomy (woo-hoo!)

--They probably had all the time in the world to do these things because their shifts are 48 hours long!

--I loved how the attending asked the interns for their help. You know who I would've asked? NEURO consult!

--I like how the gymnastics story led to discovering the key to the mystery of the seizures! How exactly did they miss a SDH on a CT? Was it that tiny or what?

--Love the 007 nickname. WTF? Never heard that before. "License to KILL!!" Ha ha!

--I love her dramatic announcement of "The Five W's" "Wound...Water...Walking...Wind...Wonder Drugs..." each said with dramatic pause...Wow, that was some major scientific knowledge imparted!!

I could just go on and on, but the sad sad reality is that I will continue to watch this little show because I find it sickly entertaining. 🙂

 

[Celiac Plexus]

i would have an episode just about scut. all kinds.

another episode would be dedicated to chasing down a CT scan since the hospital wasn't on PACS

i would have an episode dedicated to showing the world how much ER dumps or how many patients they've killed.

another great episode would be a grand rounds where the attendings got into a fight, or even if the attendings decided to just yell at the intern for no reason.

i would also add more cast members...where are all the prelim surgs? those designated into other subspecialities would have a catch phrase "only 1 year of this BS before ENT (or ortho)"

or how about:

a whole episode with a single shot of an intern dictating trauma discharges

a whole episode of an intern working up blunt stable traumas

an episode following a resident on night float "discovering" gut wrenching things about his coverage patients that the day team forgot to mention...

 

[Foxxy Cleopatra]

I've got some:

1. A trip to medical records to sign charts

2. 2 AM central line consults

3. The care of diabetic foot ulcers

or my favorite...

4. Manual disimpaction

 

[Winged Scapula]

1. 20 minutes each morning and afternoon wasted looking for charts not in the rack or in the patient's room

2. 8 pm calls on cross cover patients, HOD #215, from family wanting to know "the plan"

3. time wasted on calls from a post-inguinal hernia repair patient, 9 months ago, who calls because he is having some diarrhea

4. intern begging radiologist to do HIDA scan on patient

5. time lapse photography showing interns getting fat, pale, older and crankier

6. consult from medicine to place foley in obese patient because they can't "find" penis. On second thought, that might be a good episode (although my suggestion that they sexually stimulate patient to locate said member might be a tad spicy for some viewers. ).

7. numerous trips to ER to see every patient with abdominal pain because its "always" surgical isn't it - even without any labs drawn, patient actually worked up, etc.

 

[Bovie9]

EPISODE #2. Prada Unna Boots


picture the exciting music...

fade to the clinic exam table....

big, fat old legs... with ulcers........

intern wrapping the things with an unna boot........

NOW THIS IS GOOD TV!


Stay tuned for Episode #3- Gucci Colostomy Bag, the Rupture!

 

[Denial]

EPISODE #2. Prada Unna Boots


picture the exciting music...

fade to the clinic exam table....

big, fat old legs... with ulcers........

intern wrapping the things with an unna boot........

NOW THIS IS GOOD TV!


Stay tuned for Episode #3- Gucci Colostomy Bag, the Rupture!

Unna Boots with designer mould
Versace Drain tubes!
And ER paging for ureteric stone. or UTI for that matter. Just coz patient said "belly pain"

 

[sodium chloride]

I was amazed when the cardiothoracic/appendectomy surgeon came out of the OR and announced that his patient had died on the table. That would never, ever happen at my institution. The patient would get an IABP and a VAD and then transported to the unit on multiple pressors. Rarely does a CABG patient die on the operating room table.

 

[Winged Scapula]

I was amazed when the cardiothoracic/appendectomy surgeon came out of the OR and announced that his patient had died on the table. That would never, ever happen at my institution. The patient would get an IABP and a VAD and then transported to the unit on multiple pressors. Rarely does a CABG patient die on the operating room table.

they do if you have a general surgeon doing them!

 

[supercut]

I didn't see the first episode, but saw the second. I won't watch again. It was incredibly stupid and bears absolutely no resemblance to reality. In fact, it's reality meter scores less than that of "ER"

Funny how there only seemed to be one resident, and a whole bunch of interns. And that the interns all report to one resident for their assignment for the day. I've never heard of being assigned to go around telling pts their lab results, has anyone else?

My personal nomination for most ridiculous scene...in the OR for the repair of the TOF (detected by a surgical intern who for some odd reason went to the nursery and randomly listened to a baby's heart, finding a murmur). All the interns were there, watching and then the attending tells one to go scrub and maybe I'll let you hold a retractor. WTF????

It would have been more realistic to show my personal favorite experince as an intern on cardiac. While on call, I was paged to the cardiac ICU (run entirely by PA at my institution) to prononce a pt dead and fill out the paperwork, cuz that's one of the few things PA aren't legally allowed to do. Now there's some real drama!!

The sad thing is that the lay public will think this is actually how things are.

 

[RexKD]

I didn't see the first episode, but saw the second. I won't watch again. It was incredibly stupid and bears absolutely no resemblance to reality. In fact, it's reality meter scores less than that of "ER"

Funny how there only seemed to be one resident, and a whole bunch of interns. And that the interns all report to one resident for their assignment for the day. I've never heard of being assigned to go around telling pts their lab results, has anyone else?

My personal nomination for most ridiculous scene...in the OR for the repair of the TOF (detected by a surgical intern who for some odd reason went to the nursery and randomly listened to a baby's heart, finding a murmur). All the interns were there, watching and then the attending tells one to go scrub and maybe I'll let you hold a retractor. WTF????

It would have been more realistic to show my personal favorite experince as an intern on cardiac. While on call, I was paged to the cardiac ICU (run entirely by PA at my institution) to prononce a pt dead and fill out the paperwork, cuz that's one of the few things PA aren't legally allowed to do. Now there's some real drama!!

The sad thing is that the lay public will think this is actually how things are.

If you say this is less realistic than E.R., then what shows would you consider more realistic?

 

[Gibby Haynes]

--Love the 007 nickname. WTF? Never heard that before. "License to KILL!!" Ha ha!

This is actually mentioned in The House of God. Fats called them "Double O'Privates", licensed to kill.

 

[Gibby Haynes]

What I want to know is why didn't I choose a residency program where the female terns walk around in their underwear. 😡
I guess its a Seattle grunge thing, you wouldn't understand.

 

[tega]

What I want to know is why didn't I choose a residency program where the female terns walk around in their underwear. 😡
I guess its a Seattle grunge thing, you wouldn't understand.

guys...its a freaking show meant to entertain the lay public...its not a phucking documentary.....

so quit all these its not realistic crap.......

go tarheels..!!!!!

 

[tripod]

I love this show!
I haven't laughed my asss this hard in a long time. this is pure comedy and it's way funnier than scrubs. Heck, scrubs is more realistic than this show.

"go scrub in, and maybe i'll let you hold THE clamp."

and what kinda messed up hospital has like >10 codes everyday. The only realistic thing i saw in it was how the peds intern and resident were gigantic pu$$ies. hehe no offense j/k. "oooOoO oh no, i could get fired by making recs on a peds patient"
ahah this is classic comedy at it's best.

I'm still waiting for them to answer the pagers and start sweating and crying about whether they can switch their pepcid to PO.
haha i'm still laughing\
*wiping tear from eye*

 

[tripod]

and just keep in mind. The main demographic for this show is young guys and gals ages 18-35 who aren't doctors.

And with the perception of how bad ass surgery residents/surgeons are on this show being portrayed, this will definitely up the "Bang-Me" potential with the ladies at bars. I know one of my fellow residents plans on using this show to get so much crazy ass, it's sick.

it's a win-win situation! so quit complaining and enjoy the comedy and throngs of adoring chicks!

 

[doc05]

they should have an episode called "morning rounds" where they spend the entire hour rounding on patients. there would be med students scurrying around looking for 4x4's and the chief resident gets to curse out all the interns.

 

[geekgirl]

i had resisted watching, but couldn't help it tonight.
the liver transplant - a porkchop sized "organ" cupped gently in the intern's palms as he walked from room to room.
damn man, this show is worse than i thought.

 

[Tenesma]

SCRUBS obviously has a medical consultant for that show

GREY's anatomy obviously doesn't have a clue and just portrays the medical profession from the lay point of view... how about defibrillating asystole twice??? that was asinine... and the interaction between the nursery peds intern and the surgical intern over the tet baby??? just plain silly...
at first i thought the show was entertaining but their lapses in reality just turned the show into a joke...

 

[doc05]

how about the surgery residents gunning to scrub on a neurosurgery case?

or the private practice neurosurgeon being recruited to chair an academic surgery dept?

or a large academic surgery program with only 3 attendings?

or a surgical service working up a seizure patient?

or surgical residents wearing their stethoscopes around their necks like the fleas do?

or the 48-hour shifts, q2 call?

I could go on...

 

[surg4me]

same here...at first, the show was interesting...but the stupidity of it all just makes me disinterested...the story isn't enough... 😴

I thought that their program was portrayed as the 2nd most difficult in the country...I wish I was there...the interns leave around the same time each day and come to work when the sun is already up! And they don't preround! What great hours! And they have so much time on their hand and seem to hang out a lot together...what a joke of a residency! And what academic medical center has no med students?!!? 😕

I do like scrubs though...I'm still wondering if the CXR they show at the beginning of each show was meant to be placed backwards...(either that or the pt has dextrocardia or something weird...)

 

[Dupree]

guys...its a freaking show meant to entertain the lay public...its not a phucking documentary.....

so quit all these its not realistic crap.......

go tarheels..!!!!!

That's what I was saying first of all. Threads like this only reaffirm how uptight most med students and doctors are. They even expect fiction to mirror their reality. Relax, it's a FICTIONAL show.

 

[Tenesma]

dupree... gimme a break...

if i want to enjoy a drama - then, I don't want to be distracted by absurd medical decisions/therapeutics etc...

 

[tussy]

the liver transplant - a porkchop sized "organ" cupped gently in the intern's palms as he walked from room to room.
damn man, this show is worse than i thought.

Yesterday i was assisting on a liver transplant and as i was trying to shove the "slightly too large" donor liver into the recipient and expose the Cava so my staff could do the anastomosis the scrub nurse and i were laughing about how they gently cupped the kidney sized liver and layed it into the abdomen. Hilareous.

The show is entertaining anyway. I want to know why they all look so good post call.

 

[Phosphate]

that show is totally crap!!

 

[ItsGavinC]

how about defibrillating asystole twice??? that was asinine.

Agreed. Just finished my ACLS training, so that stuck out in my mind...and then they defibbed again! LOL.

 

[NSGYResident]

Unfortunately I subjected myself to the show last night. I'm not going into surgery, so could someone please enlighten me?

1. Is there a surgery intern on the planet who doesn't know the five main causes of post-op fever?

Probably. There are a lot of *******es out there - esp. in Seattle


2. Is there a surgery program where, on the first day, one of the interns is handed a scalpel and told to perform abdominal surgery without assistance?

I hope not. The guy did get pretty far though. Impressive.


3. Is there a collection of surgery interns anywhere that appear as if they have never even gone through a 3rd year surgery rotations before? Who the hell promises the patient that he'll be okay? Who is doing his first blood draw as an intern?

He was starting an IV and the pt was probably a hard stick. I promise you'll be OK.


4. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who punishes an intern by making him go tell a family that dear old dad croaked under the knife?

Or better yet, an attending that makes the intern stand outside the OR and watch through the window? Usually people like a little retracting help and someone to cut the sutures.

5. Is there a hospital on this continent where an intern tells the family about said croaking (see 4.) in what appears to be the hospital lobby?


Or discusses the seizure pt in and elevator? HIPAA sucks ass


6. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who shovels a seizure disorder of unknown etiology onto the interns?

Or is there someone with a SAH that has a normal LP. Also, I think the grand mal pt would have some ventilation problems before the V-fib.


Overall I'm happy there's a new surgery show - it may make surgery the next sexy specialty like EM. But some of the actors looked like DB's though.[/QUOTE]


SAH patients can have normal LP's. 🙂
An anuerysm that causes seizures with no blood evidenced on CT is pretty rare...
General surgeons clipping anuerysms even rarer.

 

[Seaglass]

What hurts even more than watching this show is that the medical advisor is Karen Lisa Pike a (deep sigh here) emergency physician in CA. Oh, it hurts. Why Lisa, why?

 

[Dupree]

Why Lisa, why?

Money.

 

[Celiac Plexus]

Did anyone notice that the spelling "Grey" is different from the "Gray" as in Henry Gray's anatomy? I wonder if this because of copywrite issues, or just the show's creators trying to be cutesy....

Also, the old t-shirt under the scrubs is decidedly unsurgeonlike. What's next? Fannypacks?

 

[Winged Scapula]

Did anyone notice that the spelling "Grey" is different from the "Gray" as in Henry Gray's anatomy? I wonder if this because of copywrite issues, or just the show's creators trying to be cutesy....

Also, the old t-shirt under the scrubs is decidedly unsurgeonlike. What's next? Fannypacks?

Really? I wear one frequently as its always cold in the hospital.


Note to self: get rid of fannypack. 😛

 

[Blonde Girl]

I have to say that I absolouely LOVE the show! It's better than "Desperate housewives!" 😉

Not to mention, there's something about it that makes it 10x better than ER and all those other "doctor" shows!

Hi there! Anyone saw Grey's Anatomy last night?? What did u all think?? How's that for your first day at a surgical intership 😳 ?? IMO the show was really awesome and intense.

 

[Blonde Girl]

Okay, this is a TV SHOW! I think you are way over analyzing hun!

Unfortunately I subjected myself to the show last night. I'm not going into surgery, so could someone please enlighten me?

1. Is there a surgery intern on the planet who doesn't know the five main causes of post-op fever?

2. Is there a surgery program where, on the first day, one of the interns is handed a scalpel and told to perform abdominal surgery without assistance?

3. Is there a collection of surgery interns anywhere that appear as if they have never even gone through a 3rd year surgery rotations before? Who the hell promises the patient that he'll be okay? Who is doing his first blood draw as an intern?

4. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who punishes an intern by making him go tell a family that dear old dad croaked under the knife?

5. Is there a hospital on this continent where an intern tells the family about said croaking (see 4.) in what appears to be the hospital lobby?

6. Is there a surgery attending on the planet who shovels a seizure disorder of unknown etiology onto the interns?