Harbor/UCLA?

[Unlimited415]

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Is anyone currently an intern,resident/attending/other at Harbor-UCLA, Cedars, Little Company of Mary, Long Beach, Daniel Freemans in Los Angeles county Emergency Departments?

Edit: Or any others in the area, really.

 

[Sessamoid]

Is anyone currently an intern,resident/attending/other at Harbor-UCLA, Cedars, Little Company of Mary, Long Beach, Daniel Freemans in Los Angeles county Emergency Departments?

Daniel Freeman Inglewood will be closing as of Dec 18th.

 

[Unlimited415]

Being an EMT in that area, I'm not looking forward to Dec. 18

 

[LuvbugMD]

I'm an intern at Harbor-UCLA...did you have questions about the LA-County or SouthBay EDs?

 

[Unlimited415]

Not right now. I'm mainly trying to make some contacts in the area.
I also transported to Harbor with a trauma last week (huge guy was beat up, was combative and in restraints) and found myself surrounded by interns. I thought maybe some of them might be on SDN.

Actually, now that I think of it, I do have a question. Is there anything EMTs could do better from your angle, as far as giving reports or patient care or prepping patient for emergency room arrival?

 

[salmonella]

Not right now. I'm mainly trying to make some contacts in the area.
I also transported to Harbor with a trauma last week (huge guy was beat up, was combative and in restraints) and found myself surrounded by interns. I thought maybe some of them might be on SDN.

Actually, now that I think of it, I do have a question. Is there anything EMTs could do better from your angle, as far as giving reports or patient care or prepping patient for emergency room arrival?

Is it true that Harbor UCLA has the best ER program in california? Better than USC, Stanford and UCSF?

 

[GeneralVeers]

Is it true that Harbor UCLA has the best ER program in california? Better than USC, Stanford and UCSF?

Harbor-UCLA THINKS that they are the best program. In reality they are all great programs, however USC is probably the strongest overall. The Harbor benefits are that it's 3 years, and the location is the best place in L.A. County to live and work - South Bay.

 

[Sessamoid]

Harbor-UCLA THINKS that they are the best program. In reality they are all great programs, however USC is probably the strongest overall. The Harbor benefits are that it's 3 years, and the location is the best place in L.A. County to live and work - South Bay.

I think that's a fair summary. I've worked with docs who graduated from all the area residencies. Harbor and USC grads are probably the most consistent since they get the cream of the crop in applicants, and their workloads are the most challenging and diverse in the area. In general, California grads are usually going to be pretty good as lots of people want to move and live here, so California in general gets a lot of applicants. Torrance is close to Redondo and Palos Verdes-- real nice places to live (if you can afford them), and it's a beach town.

I've heard USC tends to discourage their grads from working in small community ERs, feeling that their "trial by fire" training is wasted anywhere but an urban ER/trauma center setting. Interesting philosophy.

 

[LuvbugMD]

I personally looked closely at Harbor, USC, UCLA-Oliveview, and all of the other EM programs in California. I chose Harbor-UCLA because it has a long reputation of being strong clinically as well as academically. It is important to have as much hands-on training as possible, but I think it is equally as important to have a solid understanding of evidence based medicine.

Unlimited415, I highly doubt you were surrounded by interns when you reached our ED. Normally, not many interns are in our main trauma bays. They are ran by the upper level residents. In terms of preparing, we like to know how the patient was found, vitals in the field and in transit, meds, fluids, etc that were given in the field, past medical hx if known, and whatever other info we need to quickly assess the patient.

 

[Painter1]

The word is that the peeps at harbor/ucla can be on the pretentious side. county/usc has a homogenous patient population in so much as if u don't speak spanish it may be frustrating.

 

[LuvbugMD]

The word is that the peeps at harbor/ucla can be on the pretentious side. county/usc has a homogenous patient population in so much as if u don't speak spanish it may be frustrating.

Is the "word" coming from someone who has actually stepped foot into Harbor's ED and worked side by side with the residents and faculty or from someone who simply takes a look at website to see the medical schools that the residents came from?

Don't confuse hard work and accomplishment with pretention.

 

[Dr. Will]

I'm interviewing at both over the course of the next week and I'll let you know what I thought. Either way, I think you'd recieve top notch training at both programs.

 

[Sessamoid]

The word is that the peeps at harbor/ucla can be on the pretentious side. county/usc has a homogenous patient population in so much as if u don't speak spanish it may be frustrating.

Harbor's population consists of a pretty fair percentage of Spanish-speaking only patients as well, IIRC.

 

[LuvbugMD]

I'm interviewing at both over the course of the next week and I'll let you know what I thought. Either way, I think you'd recieve top notch training at both programs.

Great! Make sure you come to the Thursday night get-together if you can. It is the best way to meet the residents from all of the classes.

 

[Dr. Will]

Great! Make sure you come to the Thursday night get-together if you can. It is the best way to meet the residents from all of the classes.

Yup, I'll be there.

 

[crewmaster1]

I think that's a fair summary. I've worked with docs who graduated from all the area residencies. Harbor and USC grads are probably the most consistent since they get the cream of the crop in applicants, and their workloads are the most challenging and diverse in the area.

How does UCSD fit into all that? Is it good, or just competitive based on location?

 

[Sessamoid]

How does UCSD fit into all that? Is it good, or just competitive based on location?

Hell if I know. I don't know anybody from down there. What difference does it make? Good location will get you good faculty as well as good applicants. Same end result.